Jophiel wrote:
I'm claiming that your outrage over the "questionable ethics" in this thread were laughable based on your previous actions.
And I'm saying that you're attacking me out of a desire to avoid discussion of the ethics of a position you took earlier in the thread. You'd much rather rattle on and on about how evil I am because of something I did years ago that has no bearing on this topic than discuss the ethics of your position that it's ok to decide whether to correct a cashier's mistake in your favor based on your perception of the store's ability to absorb the loss. It's about distraction, Joph. You don't want to examine your own ethics, so you attack mine.
Ironic that you later brought up the whole mote and plank thing. Perhaps you should look to your own self first, huh?
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No one is using your refusal to pay your debts as justification for their own actions (given that it was a hypothetical for everyone but Tirith there weren't even actions to defend).
Maybe not justification, but you're absolutely using it to avoid having to defend your own. Do I need to remind you of this?
Jophiel wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Depends if I care about the store or not, big anonymous chain I'll probably keep my mouth shut but the bottleshop I was at last weekend forgot to ring up one of the beers so the total price was off by €20, I mentioned that because that would've felt like stealing.
Likewise. Large chain, I probably wouldn't have said anything. The small corner store where the owner gives me free desserts with my lunch, I'd have pointed it out.
This is the position you took, but don't want to defend. So you will do anything you have to in order to avoid having to do so. I'm more than willing to discuss at length my mistake with the IRS, my poor judgement initially, and the actions I took to rectify the situation (kind of a key point that I paid my debts, but you appear to be actively engaged in avoiding yours). Are you willing to do the same here? Or are you going to continue to hide?
Do you stand behind your position that it's ok to keep money that isn't yours based on your perception of the other person (business in this case) ability to absorb the loss. If so, could you actually try to defend this? Because I find it reprehensible. And no amount of you finding my actions with the IRS reprehensible as well changes that, much less excuses that. So how about you stop trying to hide behind blaming me and actually defend your own freaking position? Can you do that?
Edited, Sep 30th 2014 6:13pm by gbaji