Wondering what others thought of using this as a tank weapon. I am human, i would loose the expertise bonus, but can easily reforge around that? Mastery is still our top priority.
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From what I'm reading (And looking at the stats) its a nice tank weapon.
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From what I'm reading (And looking at the stats) its a nice tank weapon.
I was doing the same, thanks for quick reply.
The axe is a nice weapon. If you're a human especially, I would say the sword off of Beth'tilac is hands down better, but you may or may not have luck getting that to drop. Until you get your hands on that sword, the cleaver is a solid tanking weapon.
Well that makes me feel slightly better. I had a pally tank roll against me a couple months ago on my DK and won. I was kinda peeved at the time, but I didn't realize it was a good tanking weapon. =x
Well, with defense rating being gone, just about everything qualifies as a tank weapon as long as it has the right speed and damage. Even with threat coming really easy these days, we're far from being able to neglect classic threat stats, simply because we're contributing quite a bit to raid and/or group overall dps. (Besides 0% of 500% still being no threat at all if you miss)
Would roll on that thing without 2nd thought if it was an upgrade over what I currently have, even though that piece is obviously intended for SMF warriors and Frost DKs. A matter of glancing at their current gear as well, I guess.
Would roll on that thing without 2nd thought if it was an upgrade over what I currently have, even though that piece is obviously intended for SMF warriors and Frost DKs. A matter of glancing at their current gear as well, I guess.
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Well, with defense rating being gone, just about everything qualifies as a tank weapon as long as it has the right speed and damage.
I'd have to disagree with this statement, at least to a certain degree. I'd look really askance at a Pally/Warrior who was rolling around with an Agility weapon or a Strength weapon that had Crit/Haste on it.
That being said, a weapon with Mastery/(Hit or Expertise) is really in the grey area between tanking and DPS.
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Even with threat coming really easy these days, we're far from being able to neglect classic threat stats, simply because we're contributing quite a bit to raid and/or group overall dps. (Besides 0% of 500% still being no threat at all if you miss)
I'm currently rolling with about 4 Expertise and 1% hit (2% because of my racial) on my tanking gear for my Warrior. The only fight in Firelands I've felt the need for DPS stats is Alysrazor. I keep an Expertise capped set around, but really I just haven't felt the need for it in normal 25 man content (currently working on Ragnaros). And since the threat change, I'm no where near threat capping anyone, even if they blow all their CDs immediately.
Well, even if some stats were off, the weapon might still be a huge upgrade over what you had before. I was quite happy when I got to replace my blue POS with Zulian Slasher after endless failed attempts in getting Bloodlord Protector or the other tank sword from Stonecore.
Hit matters when it's your opener going nowhere. Nothing is more embarassing than tossing your shield like Captain America in his best days and the darn thing missing the caster you tried to reel in. Not that I'd specifically gear for that and stack hit rating, but I'm not opposed to it when gains in other secondary stats are only marginal.
Hit matters when it's your opener going nowhere. Nothing is more embarassing than tossing your shield like Captain America in his best days and the darn thing missing the caster you tried to reel in. Not that I'd specifically gear for that and stack hit rating, but I'm not opposed to it when gains in other secondary stats are only marginal.
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Well, even if some stats were off, the weapon might still be a huge upgrade over what you had before. I was quite happy when I got to replace my blue POS with Zulian Slasher after endless failed attempts in getting Bloodlord Protector or the other tank sword from Stonecore.
I wouldn't personally have a problem with you doing that unless you were taking the sword from a Frost DK or SMF warrior who needed it. It's a fairly substantial DPS/TPS upgrade for you if you're wearing a 333. My hunter is using a 353 Strength/Expertise Bow for the same reason ... I'd never in a million years have rolled against a Warrior for it because I'm going to toss it away as soon as I get an equal ilvl Agi bow.
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Hit matters when it's your opener going nowhere. Nothing is more embarassing than tossing your shield like Captain America in his best days and the darn thing missing the caster you tried to reel in. Not that I'd specifically gear for that and stack hit rating, but I'm not opposed to it when gains in other secondary stats are only marginal.
I don't even have a ranged silence, and I hardly notice the difference in 5 mans, even when running with a PUG. Druids don't have a ranged silence either and they seem to make do. And having a 1/20 chance to miss with your ranged silence is hardly the end of the world (spell hit on an 87 is only 6%).
Gains in secondary stats are always "marginal" when you look at one piece compared with your whole set. It's when you take the set as a whole that it really starts to make a difference. And for 5-man heroics, it's not really an issue regardless, because they're just not tuned that tightly.
MY warrior couldn't possibly live without the 2 points in Gag Order for that ranged silence. Not having anything like that on the bear is rather frustrating.
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MY warrior couldn't possibly live without the 2 points in Gag Order for that ranged silence. Not having anything like that on the bear is rather frustrating.
Yeah, I missed it for the first week or so, then I adapted. How many pulls are there where you either can't (1) move to the caster, (2) CC the caster, or (3) line of sight pull?
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MY warrior couldn't possibly live without the 2 points in Gag Order for that ranged silence. Not having anything like that on the bear is rather frustrating.
Yeah, I missed it for the first week or so, then I adapted. How many pulls are there where you either can't (1) move to the caster, (2) CC the caster, or (3) line of sight pull?
Sure, there are workarounds, but not having to worry about those means increased quality of life. To me, having all those fancy tools is a major part of playing a warrior tank in the first place.
Only two weapons with Mastery this tier. Tanks should get the dodge/mast one but the hit/mast one is a trash drop so....
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