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It's one more annoying unlock, but you don't even notice it in-game really. Like in WoW you don't really need purple gear to do anything prior to end-game competitive stuff. TERA didn't have any of those restrictions, but it was expensive to enchant your end-game stuff. Without a subscription to help with the money situation at that point it was going to be a pain to be F2P.

In my mind at least I don't have a problem with the idea of having to paying something somehow to be competitive at end-game, so long as it isn't a direct P2W kind of setup. The game does have to make money somehow.

I play an MMO for the end game. Everything leading up to that is fun but not where I get most of my enjoyment. So yeah, slower gearing up unless you pay is very much crippling for what my goals in an MMO are.

And I've probably spent over 90% of my time in WoW at levelcap. So yeah, I'd much rather have a fixed cost and a level playing field than having to pay to do what I like to do anyway. It just feel like you're being ripped off if it's called free to play but you're paying anyway.

Edited, Aug 9th 2013 8:04pm by Aethien

I'm not talking about TOR, I don't give a flying **** about TOR. It's just that it really annoys me that "free" to play games advertise as being free while you'll have to pay for any of the game that is actually relevant to my interests. It just feels like a dishonest way of making money.

I can't agree with your logic, to be honest. This is also the first time I've heard that particular complaint.

I've heard arguments against P2W, and it's not hard to see why that would be hated. Where someone can drop $20 and completely negate your hard work. That's obviously not fun for anyone who'd like any semblance of a meritocratic game.

I've heard arguments against Freemium, where everything gets monetized so the entire content structure of the game is broken into microtransactions (pay $3 to access <insert zone>, pay $5 to access <insert dungeon>, etc.). It's not hard to see why no one wants this. For one, it's annoying as hell to be constantly hitting RMT walls. It's also annoying when everyone has different content unlocked. And it can ultimately be really freaking expensive.

But I've never heard people argue that a game shouldn't be called F2P if it puts low gate fees into place every so often. As long as they're reasonable, I see no issue there. A $5-7 fee to access additional content after you've already experienced 50-80 hours of free content doesn't sound insane to me. It's still a F2P game, even if not everything in it is free. As long as you have enough there that's free to justify it being a full game without the additions, I don't see why it's bad.


Now, maybe you're saying you don't like the idea of a freemium model, where you'd be constantly paying surprise fees to access the content you want? I agree that would really suck. As it stands, though, I haven't seen many games take that route. Because everyone thinks it sucks and there's no fun in it.

If you can't get to level cap in a "free" game, I'd probably call it freemium. If you can get to level cap, and especially if you can access the beginners' endgame stuff, I'd definitely call it F2P.

Thankfully no one around here ever accused you of being rational.

Spiders will kill you.

Fact.

When I was little I was bit by a spider. My whole chest swelled up into a bright red blotch and my parents talked about sending me to the hospital before it started to fade. I'd like not to repeat that incident.

Edited, Aug 9th 2013 1:16pm by someproteinguy

Had one, and that was my favorite part about it. Sadly it didn't take well to the kids, and after weeks of it peeing on the carpet we had to give it back to the shelter.

It's not irrational to fear spiders. This could happen any day now:

We, on the other hand, have Black Widows. The spider so evil, it eats its mates. And the namesake of one of the most badass Avengers.

I remember one time, maybe 10 years ago, where I came within 6 inches of taking a black widow's web to the face.

/shudder... literally.

My parents have a cat who is at least half maine coone and he *tries* to talk a lot. He has a very very quiet voice though, so you can't really hear him. He's pretty sweet but also very skiddish and he was kind of a bully to my Miranda. But in his defense, she bulled him first while he was sick when we first moved in with them, and so once he got his health back it was payback time.

as a side note has anyone here ever quit a job without having one lined up?

i might do it next week so curious if anyone else has done the same.

edit for digg

Edited, Aug 10th 2013 1:54am by Horsemouth