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Hemo Daggers for the loss?

And you can read the FAQ or the other threads before posting yours so we don't have to post we posted yesterday/last week again.

well i only asked for advice on my talent build, no need to be a little ******** about things is there now o.o

here is the one im going with it has nice burst damage and from what i have read has great potential for PvP and PvE hope it helps

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=iGe0oLZMZvMcohhRshst

All right at 66(I am a good player lol, just never NEVER bothered to learn from what appears to be an awful move in general)

I am mutilate spec and can land some very nice shots. Now the question is what makes hemo so good? It would appear that SS would do more damage and in one shot rather then 30. Am I missing something? Lol

What makes hemo so good is that is is excellent both for stunlocking and for building up combo points quickly. Where it lacks is in sustained damage in the longer fights which are typical in raid situations.

Hemo is pretty much a PVP sword build. You'll want a good slow sword with nice high end damage to take full advatage of hemo's non-normalized attack.

Now to address one other issue that keeps seeming to pop up. Although the answers to these questions may seem a bit "basic" to many of you, keep in mind there are many players who are new to this game. Forums like this should have a friendly atmosphere. Calling people who are new to the game, (or who don't read the sticky) idiots doesn't qualify as friendly in my book. It just brings the rest of us down. It's easier to ask on the forum than to read 15 pages of stickies, and you'd think after posting on here for over a year you'd accept the fact that questions like this are par for the course....so why not give these guys a break by trying to be nice instead of being so arrogant?

Please consider simply referring new folks to the stickies and quit calling names....this isn't high school.

Thanks for your useful post Eliff, i currently have Shadowblade in MH and a slowish sword in OH (i think its 2.80 speed wise, but does 44.7 dps) does Hemo work ok with that ? or should i look about getting better weapons ??

A 2.8 speed sword is perfect, as long as the top end damage is good for your level. But it'll have to be in your main hand obviously. Don't hemo with a dagger in your main hand....it's a very inefficient use of energy, and the dps is weak as hell.

Also, make sure you are going hemo for the right reasons. While it's decent for grinding and general PVE, combat is actually better. Most rogues who go the hemo route are mostly interested in stunlocking and/or building CP's quickly. As far as I know, the only other build better at building CP's quickly is mutilate. I spec'd hemo because although combat was better for grinding, I still wanted to do some PVP (something combat doesn't do well at all, imho). Hemo seemed to be a build that was decent at both.

Finally, once you get serious about instancing and raiding you'll likely want to get off the hemo train and spec combat (swords or daggers) or mutilate/combat (daggers).

They(nooble + element) definitely have a point. There are countless other posts dealing with this info. Many not longer than 1-2 weeks ago and there's always the sticky, already mentioned(which is one of the most comprehensive guides you'll find that has been put togetherly logically, not just a pile of info). There are also other tools at your disposal, wowwiki even has all the dam formulas so you can see how the non-normalized dam formula is calculated vs. normalized attacks. All they are asking is that you put a little effort into learning about the talents available before just blatantly asking for help in general.

It's always easier to assist if you are specific in what you are asking as many people on the forums have a ton of experience playing specific specs and can really offer you some good advice. And if you dig alittle you'll probably already find that they have offered this advice in many prev threads.

But the real reason you got sh*t on is because your spec is too close to what I was specced and pissed nooble off earlier this week(see the thread on Combat Hemo), so don't feel too bad, he let you off easy.

There's a @#$%ing entire GUIDE to everything a noob could want to know about the rogue class at the very top of the damn rogue forums, props to nooblestick.

It's one thing if you don't LOOK at the other topics because you think your question will be unique and not asked 1000 times before, but it's another to blatantly LIE about doing so.

GTFO.

Edited, Jun 6th 2007 8:40am by Mageoken

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Take THIS! and THAT! and A LITTLE BIT'A THIS!
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