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#1 May 21 2007 at 12:11 PM Rating: Default
Really pisses me off. I have Humar, I've had him since level 23 or whatever, and I've done just fine with that pet all the way to 68. He looks cool, he does lot of DPS, procs frenzy and ferocious inspiration a lot, and I just happen to like cats.

Some freaking noobtard starts telling me I'm an idiot because I should go get an owl because they are the highest DPS pet in the game and can have 12k armor. Like it makes a difference with pet normalization, it really comes down to appearances. Owls annoy me, their hoots and wing flapping annoy me and I don't really dig the appearance. Last I checked, even if you tame an elite, they still become normalized in stats. Owls are a high DPS, low armor pet, so I really don't know what this tard was on about.

I'm fairly certain that a Cat DPS would easily match that of an owl anyway. Even if it doesn't the difference would probably be so minimal that you wouldn't notice. A BM hunter can pretty much get by with any pet, scorpids, owl, bat, cat, dog, who really cares what pet you're using as long as you know how to play the class it all comes down to playstyle and what appearance you like.



Edited, May 21st 2007 4:13pm by Taurrus
#2 May 21 2007 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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I thought the DPS of a windserpent was the highest in the game. Guess I may have been wrong...
#3 May 21 2007 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
well if your pets doing only 40% of your damage then that +/- 2% makes crap all difference.
Go with what you like and if anyone tells you different /ignore
#4 May 21 2007 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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An owl will have 3% less DPS than a cat. So idk what he's smoking. That being said, a scorpid will have the most. WS is second. But a cat is fine, you're not a noob for taking one. He's a noob for being himself.
#5 May 21 2007 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
I'll stick with my boar. Anyone tries to tell me 'get X pet' I say 'you should get a -STFU- pet' =P J/k. But for real I'm keeping my boar. I had a cat since STV and w/o charge I walk a very fine line on my DPS allowance.

I changed back to boar at the blasted lands (think that's where I picked the lil fella at), and with charge, growl, etc he thanks like a champ.

I will say at the outlands with all my +attack stuff, my +agi stuff, and + striking stuff. My lil pet has a harder time keeping the hate, but it's nothing a concus shot, back up move don't cure.

I agree with you, I really don't like flying pets, they're kindda annoying. Cats are cool, and have cool animations, same with boars.

I plan on getting a Owl for for kicks and stashing him in my stable, same with one of those funky outlands scorpian looking things. Warp stalker? or w/e it's called

Just tell them to 1)roll a hunter themselfs and use w/e pet they want; 2) tell them to pay your monthly billing from Blizzard, then they can tell you what to use; Or 3)tell them to worry about their own toons.
#6 May 21 2007 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
This may be just me but when I instance I always ask the group which pet I should bring (tank or DPS)...most really don't care, but some do have a preference. I find that this is the easiest way to make the group run as smoothly as I can (lowbies or big social pulls = tank, single or double target DPS = DPS).

But when some idiot who's prolly never played a hunter comes up to tell you to drop "Beloved_petX" because there is a better one out there I think that is a serious lack of respect to the person that plays the hunter in question...they've made their choice, y'know?

I've had a few of these myself and what I do is I invite them to a duel and just let my pet have at it...usually my pet will rip them to bits while I laugh in their face ^^
#7 May 21 2007 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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I like owls. But mine has less armor than my Wolf. SO, while it's probably possible to get an owl over 12k armor, it's also possible to get a wolf over 12k.

Basically the guy has no idea what he's talking about. Cats actually have a higher DPS than owls, the only thing an owl has more of (Naturally, without spec, gear and buffs) is HP.

Although as I said, I like owls, but for the very reason others seem to hate em. The screeching doesn't bother me, I'm further back than the melee and I have music on, and I like their fight animations, and for all the wing flapping getting in the way. Whenever that happens, I just remind myself about how annoying it must be to the guy I PvP against next.

But, in reality my reason for preferring owls is just an opinion. Your cat is fine. This guy just seems like an idiot, sending him to Petopia should shut him up.
#8 May 21 2007 at 4:21 PM Rating: Default
skribs wrote:
An owl will have 3% less DPS than a cat. So idk what he's smoking. That being said, a scorpid will have the most. WS is second. But a cat is fine, you're not a noob for taking one. He's a noob for being himself.


A scorpid? I don't have the math to back this up, but isn't a scorpid a high-armor tank pet? HP: Medium (+0%) Armor: High (+10%) DPS: Low (-6%). So how can a scorpid out DPS a cat?
#9 May 21 2007 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
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The stats dont mean much. Scorpid poison will deal insane ammounts of damage once you get 5 stacks on. Sort of how a lock will out-damage people on boss fights, but overall they wont do much b/c on trash they barely get 1-2 ticks.

Look in my sig, on the scorpids pwn link, the math's in there (a ways down).
#10 May 21 2007 at 5:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Next time he tells you that ask him 'Hoo told you that?!'
#11 May 21 2007 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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skribs wrote:
The stats dont mean much. Scorpid poison will deal insane ammounts of damage once you get 5 stacks on. Sort of how a lock will out-damage people on boss fights, but overall they wont do much b/c on trash they barely get 1-2 ticks.

Look in my sig, on the scorpids pwn link, the math's in there (a ways down).


There are a few minor fallacies in your math, though, such as assuming 2000 RAP (btw, is there anything official that tells people RAP affects it?) and expending 105 Focus during a period of 100 Focus regen. This is on top of having 5 poisons already stacked on the target.

A scorpid's theoretical DPS may be quite high, but I feel as though it's a safe bet that their actual effective DPS is notably lower.
#12 May 21 2007 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, but for short fights you can make up for it with claw. Note that I said that's SUSTAINED DPS.

Use wowwiki, they have pretty accurate results.
#13 May 22 2007 at 5:47 AM Rating: Decent
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If you like cats and still have the lvl range to get it I recommend the Ghost Saber. =D (Plz dont take that as a you must get) It just looks killer. and to top it off. with prowl on even when you can see it due to low lvl or close range to pet. Its still a pain in the Arze to see. =D The pet looks like the white spotted snow leppard by Ironforge in prowl. Only truely unique look I have seen, with the exception of the purple and cyan cat. =D Im getting that purple one 2.
#14 May 22 2007 at 5:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Whoa wait a sec. i thought scorpids were in the defense group. How can it do the most DPS as a defensive pet. I didn't think that poison really did enough to make up for the lack of standard orange damage from your pet. Am I just completely off my rocker or is there something I am not seeing here.
#15 May 22 2007 at 5:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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I bet that player wouldn’t think much of Cashara’s pink tallstrider. But she’s had Sweetpea from level 11 to level 65 and I can honestly say I’ve enjoyed my pink tallstrider more than any other pet any of my hunters have ever had. When he plays a hunter he’s more than welcome to tame an owl. But I’ll never get rid of my big, pink bird of death.
#16 May 22 2007 at 6:25 AM Rating: Decent
Second option...

Tell them to roll a hunter, level to 70, tame an owl, nail it to a Frisbee then fling it over a rainbow!
#17 May 22 2007 at 7:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Hitash, the family class means nothing. I've used a bat for my tank pet, that's an offensive pet. I've used a scorpid for DPS, that's a defensive pet. I've also used a wind serpent for both, etc etc. What really matters is the skills.

And, you get 7.5% of your RAP added to the overall total, no matter how many stacks are on it. So with 1000 RAP, you get 75+(44*stacks). So even with 1 stack on, you still get decent damage. The coeffecient for LB isn't nearly that high (I think it's somewhere around 1-3%).

Edited, May 22nd 2007 8:02am by skribs
#18 May 22 2007 at 7:19 AM Rating: Good
It's funny how upset people can get when they think you're using the "wrong" pet. I haven't been playing that long, but have had plenty of people offer unwanted advice as to what pet I "should" be using. I started with a Worg, moved on to an owl, boar, then to a ghost sabre, and finally I'm back to a wolf (Black Ravager Mastiff). I like the appearance, balanced stats, and tanking ability of my Ravager, so that's what I'm sticking with. I'm BM specced, and my Ravager usually has more armor than the tank I'm grouping with, even when the tank is several levels higher. Despite this, people constantly tell me I should get a bear to tank, and a boar to DPS. I know that some people love the boar, and that's great, but I refuse to run around with Binky the Attack Pig.

Thanks, but I'm just going to stick with my wolf...
#19 May 22 2007 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, whoever said bear to tank and boar to DPS is an idiot. If you get a boar, you shouldn't get it as a specialized DPS pet. I mean, yeah their DPS is good...but there's loads better as far as DPS goes.
And bears lag behind past level 30. After that, no dash means more down-time.

I'm not saying boars and bears are bad, but for elitist specializations like that, they are.
#20 May 22 2007 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Gladestrider wrote:
It's funny how upset people can get when they think you're using the "wrong" pet. I haven't been playing that long, but have had plenty of people offer unwanted advice as to what pet I "should" be using. I started with a Worg, moved on to an owl, boar, then to a ghost sabre, and finally I'm back to a wolf (Black Ravager Mastiff). I like the appearance, balanced stats, and tanking ability of my Ravager, so that's what I'm sticking with. I'm BM specced, and my Ravager usually has more armor than the tank I'm grouping with, even when the tank is several levels higher. Despite this, people constantly tell me I should get a bear to tank, and a boar to DPS. I know that some people love the boar, and that's great, but I refuse to run around with Binky the Attack Pig.

Thanks, but I'm just going to stick with my wolf...

you know wolves were the pets to get pre tBC and are still some of the best pets available for grouping.
because they dont have to fight to be useful, just use their special move (furious howl) to improve your (and other hunters) damage.
or if you stand close enough also the tanks/rogues damage.
#21 May 22 2007 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Windserpent with the "Go for the Throat" talent is actually THE highest possible DPS pet.
But boars are just plain sexy =D
#22 May 22 2007 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I know that some people love the boar, and that's great, but I refuse to run around with Binky the Attack Pig.

I faced that too. I ended up biting the bullet. Yeah, stealthed cats are cool. The initial attack bonus from wolfs is hawt. But I like my pig =P I even named him Pumba. "Pig, who you calling a Pig!!!"
#23 May 22 2007 at 8:48 AM Rating: Default
skribs wrote:
Yes, but for short fights you can make up for it with claw. Note that I said that's SUSTAINED DPS.

Use wowwiki, they have pretty accurate results.


I just dunno, I feel like a Scorpid is a pretty sucktastic pet...only 3 abilities? I mean common! I feel like im missing out vs other pets that get 4. The sting is cool, but why not give scorpids the ability to learn bite too. Also, this is just my personal preference, but I can't stand pets that don't have an intercept ability. If it can't learn dash/charge/swoop/warp I'm not interested. I like an intercept ability because the pet can reach a mob just as I blast it with aimed shot opener...

I just tamed me 2 new pets in the OL, a Black worg (lvl 65 from nagarand) looks pretty cool, I'll use that one for groups. Thank god they learn dash and furious howl compensates for that a lot of lost dps. I also got me a warp stalker. Warp is mayo cool ability! Blink, pet beside you munching your azz! What is the verdict on Warp stalkers?

Edited, May 22nd 2007 12:50pm by Taurrus
#24 May 22 2007 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, the less TP you spend on active skills, the more you can put into passive. And in group PvE, where you would use a DPS pet, intercepts aren't AS important.

Edited, May 22nd 2007 10:02am by skribs
#25 May 22 2007 at 12:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Taurrus wrote:
I also got me a warp stalker. Warp is mayo cool ability! Blink, pet beside you munching your azz! What is the verdict on Warp stalkers?


I don’t know where they fall in the grand scheme of things stat and/or DPS wise, that means almost nothing to me for any of my pets, but I will have a green warp stalker one day. Cashara is going to be my hunter to tame one, as soon as I go back to the alliance side, as they have a similar diet to her pink tallstrider. And I already have a name for him; Gleep. Taming the closest beast we have to a dragon is a moral imperative. *grins*

#26 May 22 2007 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
<<< Ultimate huntard, used a sporebat until 68 :D Still a huntard and uses a blade's edge raptor, it looks sexy though and I get all kinds of comments on it.

It's one of the black ones, named venom.

Edited to see if signature's fixed

Dammit didn't work
Edited, May 22nd 2007 9:53pm by diceh

Edited, May 22nd 2007 9:54pm by diceh
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