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Recently I had a crew call apon me to tank for them... I was lvl 18 and the rest of the crew was around my lvl. lvl 18 mage, lvl 21 hunter, lvl 23 priest. Anyway. If any of you remember the shadowweave trinket quest in lakeshire? they wanted me to tank that. lvl 22-24 mobs. no prob right? well how can you keep hate even if you arent hitting. I mean the mobs resisted everything. Thunderclap, taunt, demoralizing shout. What am I doing wrong. Was it just the lvl range? I still have a hard time figuring out my limitations... (keep thinking IM on my hunter) After about half an hour trying to get to Lt Fangore so we could kill him as well i told the group to wait a min. Logged on my hunter (owned a 52 UD warrior who thought he could drag me to his hiding druid.) then healed just in time to see the druid. lvl 51. Cast scare beast, and cast beastial wraith. (i love that move) and watched my pet eat him alive. Anyway. It was frustrating that it seems that I couldnt hold agro on any mob if its more than 2 or 3 lvls higher than me. or if my party has some DPS classes more than 3 lvls higher. Can I get advice. (BTW I was switching from Battle stance for charge and slapping a rend or hamstring or a thunderclap then switched to defensive stance use Blood rage and used shield bash and revenge as I could. Is there nothing else I can do?
Your problems really come from your low level. It's always a bad idea having players of a higher level than the tank, but being the lowest - lvl 18 v lvl 23-24 just compounds the problem.
You have Sunder Armour (Rank 1). Your best bet would be to keep spamming it. Rank 2 comes at lvl 22 which would help when competing against the lvl 21 hunter and pet. If the priest was doing damage, then you'd find it very difficult to keep aggro against their damage using your sub 20 abilities.
My advice: Start Spamming Sunder Armour. At your level it would be the easiest way to keep aggro. If that doesn't work then I suggest going back at lvl 22 with your new ability and then beating them all to a bloody pulp.
In that particular situation I would have had the pet doing the tanking, on stay, rather than follow mode, with shields and healing from the priest, and used you purely for DPS.
You have Sunder Armour (Rank 1). Your best bet would be to keep spamming it. Rank 2 comes at lvl 22 which would help when competing against the lvl 21 hunter and pet. If the priest was doing damage, then you'd find it very difficult to keep aggro against their damage using your sub 20 abilities.
My advice: Start Spamming Sunder Armour. At your level it would be the easiest way to keep aggro. If that doesn't work then I suggest going back at lvl 22 with your new ability and then beating them all to a bloody pulp.
In that particular situation I would have had the pet doing the tanking, on stay, rather than follow mode, with shields and healing from the priest, and used you purely for DPS.
Thnx I was just thinking that I prolly was doin something wrong. Coming from a Hunter main makes me a little more than uneasy about trying to take all the damage. Every time I am close to death im looking for my FD lol. As you can tell I have quite the lil collection of 19s :S I kinda want to see what class I like best to continue with that one after my main hits 70.
Yeah man 22-24 mobs are too high for you ATM
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Elites? I remember being disappointed at most players because of their cowardice. You shouldnt have the much trouble if your group is good, and if they are all they same lvl as the mobs your tanking then it should be easy. I was usually a 1-3 lvls below most of the instances I was ready for. The problem wasnt my gear or lvl so much as my group. This never ends beware. At lvl 70 you will be almost expected to have as good or better gear than the instance your doing. Thats just lazy bastards with no skill depending on their lvl/gear/stats to do all the work that your skills should of done, assuming your group has the same skills at least.
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Elites? I remember being disappointed at most players because of their cowardice. You shouldnt have the much trouble if your group is good, and if they are all they same lvl as the mobs your tanking then it should be easy. I was usually a 1-3 lvls below most of the instances I was ready for. The problem wasnt my gear or lvl so much as my group. This never ends beware. At lvl 70 you will be almost expected to have as good or better gear than the instance your doing. Thats just lazy bastards with no skill depending on their lvl/gear/stats to do all the work that your skills should of done, assuming your group has the same skills at least.
Okay there sport, that's enough ePeen stroking for the day. Of course level/gear/stats have nothing to do with one's ability to do their job...it's all in their "skills". That's why you see 60s tanking Shadow Labs or anything similar wearing valor all the time right? Or better yet, just throw on some cloth. Their "skills" should make up for it. Please refrain from posting if you're not going to be helpful and answer the question at hand.
To the OP, you're doing what you can. At those levels, it's not like you have many tools at your disposal for getting agro. You're mostly all about some sundering, sundering, and...ah...more sundering? I would switch over into D stance before you Thunderclap personally, for the extra threat. WIth a 21 hunter though, 3 levels ahead of you, combined with the fact that you were fighting mobs that much higher than you were making it so you couldn't hit them, as you stated...well, its kind of an uphill battle for you. My suggestion? Don't bother with doing that. Level up a bit more.
While it's often times easy for a healer to get a job in an instance that's a higher level than they are, it's a lot harder for you to do so. A healer doesn't have to worry about whether or not his heals will get resisted. And while the DPS have the same problem that you do, it's not nearly as noticeable of a problem for them. If THEY don't hit the mobs, they die a little bit slower...if YOU don't get the mobs, they go running around killing people. My rule of thumb was always to be a level or two higher than the 'minimum' before I headed into an instance. Honestly, it'll make your life easier, as well as that of the people that you run with, because you'll be able to better perform your job. It's not like getting those levels at the lower levels is much of a strain anyways. Just quest away for an hour or two and you'll have your level.
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Okay there sport, that's enough ePeen stroking for the day. Of course level/gear/stats have nothing to do with one's ability to do their job...it's all in their "skills". That's why you see 60s tanking Shadow Labs or anything similar wearing valor all the time right? Or better yet, just throw on some cloth. Their "skills" should make up for it.
Talk about epeen. lol You can't be f*ck!ng seroius about what you just said. I'd love to see a lvl 70 in lvl 20 greens or whites in your case and tank Shadow Labs or Shattered Halls or any Tempest Keep. Granted I think they'd have an easier time than a lvl 60, but you must not have received the memo that warriors are gear dependant. Yah yah, I know I know, skill this and skill that. I get it. But to go as far as saying a lvl 60 can tank SLabs? You must be out of your mind. He would get crushed, or the healer would have to be insanely good. You throw on some cloth, run Kara, and tell me how far you get!
I really hope you were being facetious and trying to be funny when you said what you said, but if you weren't..you really pissed me off for flaming that guy then saying the most rediculous **** I've ever heard. Oh, incase you forgot what I wrote, I understand it takes "skill" and that its mostly "skill" but for all intense purposes you don't see MT's in whites and greens tanking Kara you f*ck bucket!
my post didnt show up =S oh well now it works.
Edited, May 24th 2007 2:24pm by HitashLevat
Edited, May 24th 2007 2:24pm by HitashLevat
PigeonMan wrote:
The FletusSanguine of Doom wrote:
scourgeed wrote:
Elites? I remember being disappointed at most players because of their cowardice. You shouldnt have the much trouble if your group is good, and if they are all they same lvl as the mobs your tanking then it should be easy. I was usually a 1-3 lvls below most of the instances I was ready for. The problem wasnt my gear or lvl so much as my group. This never ends beware. At lvl 70 you will be almost expected to have as good or better gear than the instance your doing. Thats just lazy bastards with no skill depending on their lvl/gear/stats to do all the work that your skills should of done, assuming your group has the same skills at least.
Talk about epeen. lol You can't be f*ck!ng seroius about what you just said. I'd love to see a lvl 70 in lvl 20 greens or whites in your case and tank Shadow Labs or Shattered Halls or any Tempest Keep. Granted I think they'd have an easier time than a lvl 60, but you must not have received the memo that warriors are gear dependant. Yah yah, I know I know, skill this and skill that. I get it. But to go as far as saying a lvl 60 can tank SLabs? You must be out of your mind. He would get crushed, or the healer would have to be insanely good. You throw on some cloth, run Kara, and tell me how far you get!
I really hope you were being facetious and trying to be funny when you said what you said, but if you weren't..you really pissed me off for flaming that guy then saying the most rediculous sh*t I've ever heard. Oh, incase you forgot what I wrote, I understand it takes "skill" and that its mostly "skill" but for all intense purposes you don't see MT's in whites and greens tanking Kara you f*ck bucket!
Whoa! calm down. Read this... thats where he was making the joke about being <i>all</i> skillz.
Edited, May 24th 2007 2:22pm by HitashLevat
PigeonMan wrote:
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Okay there sport, that's enough ePeen stroking for the day. Of course level/gear/stats have nothing to do with one's ability to do their job...it's all in their "skills". That's why you see 60s tanking Shadow Labs or anything similar wearing valor all the time right? Or better yet, just throw on some cloth. Their "skills" should make up for it.
Talk about epeen. lol You can't be f*ck!ng seroius about what you just said. I'd love to see a lvl 70 in lvl 20 greens or whites in your case and tank Shadow Labs or Shattered Halls or any Tempest Keep. Granted I think they'd have an easier time than a lvl 60, but you must not have received the memo that warriors are gear dependant. Yah yah, I know I know, skill this and skill that. I get it. But to go as far as saying a lvl 60 can tank SLabs? You must be out of your mind. He would get crushed, or the healer would have to be insanely good. You throw on some cloth, run Kara, and tell me how far you get!
I really hope you were being facetious and trying to be funny when you said what you said, but if you weren't..you really pissed me off for flaming that guy then saying the most rediculous sh*t I've ever heard. Oh, incase you forgot what I wrote, I understand it takes "skill" and that its mostly "skill" but for all intense purposes you don't see MT's in whites and greens tanking Kara you f*ck bucket!
Okay there sport, that's enough ePeen stroking for the day. Of course level/gear/stats have nothing to do with one's ability to do their job...it's all in their "skills". That's why you see 60s tanking Shadow Labs or anything similar wearing valor all the time right? Or better yet, just throw on some cloth. Their "skills" should make up for it.
Talk about epeen. lol You can't be f*ck!ng seroius about what you just said. I'd love to see a lvl 70 in lvl 20 greens or whites in your case and tank Shadow Labs or Shattered Halls or any Tempest Keep. Granted I think they'd have an easier time than a lvl 60, but you must not have received the memo that warriors are gear dependant. Yah yah, I know I know, skill this and skill that. I get it. But to go as far as saying a lvl 60 can tank SLabs? You must be out of your mind. He would get crushed, or the healer would have to be insanely good. You throw on some cloth, run Kara, and tell me how far you get!
I really hope you were being facetious and trying to be funny when you said what you said, but if you weren't..you really pissed me off for flaming that guy then saying the most rediculous sh*t I've ever heard. Oh, incase you forgot what I wrote, I understand it takes "skill" and that its mostly "skill" but for all intense purposes you don't see MT's in whites and greens tanking Kara you f*ck bucket!
Wow. I guess you missed a memo too, didn't you ? The one on sarcasm, and humor, and how the two can go together and make this thing called a joke? I would have thought it was pretty easy to look at his post, and then mine, and see that I wasn't being serious about what I said. I was poking fun at what he said to prove a point...that skills don't mean a damn thing if you're not of the proper level and gearing for whatever you're trying to tank. Way to misconstrue what I wrote, and jump straight into a flame though. It made you look pretty intelligent. Who's the f*ck bucket again, now?
Yep, I guess you make your sarcasm very apparent with the continuous all "skill" joke. Whatever, I dont have time for you nerds to battle it out over the internet. Go out, get a girl and experiment. Betcha thats more addicting than wow! Do you get my sarcasm there?
Yep man, you're pretty cool. Fall back into the typical 'You're a nerd, I'm not gonna argue.' thing. Of course you don't have time for this, that's why you bothered to post. That's why you're on a forum. The 'go get a girl' defense is nice. I'm sure with your tact and obvious intelligence you get all the girls. I could always upload a picture of my lady friend and let you eat your words...but then again, while I'm more than willing to sit here and post, since I can't sleep and don't have anything better to do, I'm not going to waste that amount of time for you. I'd also rather not let my girl end up as fodder in some guy's whack bin. GG on the forum tough guy thing, though. You win?
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I could always upload a picture of my lady friend and let you eat your words
Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder my friend. Write that down. If you have a babe, good for you, I'm glad. But as for me getting all the girls with my tact and intelligence...eh you're close. I get enough. I mean, they get what they want, I get what I want and at the end of the night all is well. I'm glad we can go back forth in a forum, it's quite intersting arguing with a gamer. I don't claim to be only because I leisurely play WoW and know nothing about any other game made by blizzard or any other gaming company. Red Alert is the only other one I've played. But as for wasting time, I'm doing just that, and sure why not waste it on you, because at the moment I have nothing better to do while I sit at work. But hey, I'm over it. I guess it was something called a little misunderstanding, which happens quite often on the internet when reading what people write since we cannot simply interpret it the way it was intended. I digress.
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