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#1 May 15 2007 at 11:54 PM Rating: Decent
Hello my fellow hunters,

i have a lvl 69 troll hunter atm: Shazzle on Bronzebeard(EU)
but that's irrelevant =)

the reason i made this topic is about the amount of people who whine about my/our class.

i recently visited Youtube and video.google and watched a pretty neat video of a lvl 70 troll hunter who did quite some dmg in EoTS.
these were the kind of responses he got:

You really suck and this video sucks. You just stand about and multishot the zerg. Yawn.

well not a good hunter when he got melee dps he do few sec nothing then he runs but he will got owned if his mate weren't there only auto shot and aimed shot is not a god skill .....

anyone can sit back and multi shot into a crowd... wasn't even any good 1v1s


responds like these really **** me off,what else should a hunter do besides take distance and DPS? run into a crowd and AoE or Ambush a person? /end sarcasm.

When i get into a situation where I have to melee i place a trap too and get the hell outa there,take distance and shoot some heads.

Also the massive amount of people saying that hunters need a nerf...Why? i just need 1 good reason why we should be nerfed and i'll shut up...our dps is moderate against casters and rogues ,i think the main reason people want a nerf is that they can't beat a hunter in PvP.

well that's it..i cleared my head a bit.
Hope I made some points that you people agree on.

Shazzle


#2 May 16 2007 at 1:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I totally agree with you, but it goes right along the same lines as rogues. People always complain when they get killed by a rogue. "Oh the guy stun-locked me and i didn't even get a shot off! That is so cheap and stupid!"
Well when I duel my lvl 70 rogue friend with my ench shaman, if he DOESN'T stealth and stun lock me, then I smack his cold undead @$$ all over Shatt. Point is, people are just pissed because standing back and shooting is what hunters do, and we are good at it. If we didn't stand back and shoot, then we wouldn't be a hunter, would we?
Be reassured in the fact you are not the only hunter that has to listen to that kind of crap. -_^
#3 May 16 2007 at 1:54 AM Rating: Good
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why would you torture yourself by reading youtube comments?
i mean really...
#4 May 16 2007 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
This is probably irrelevant but, In my opinion most people are tired of beastmastery spec(SP?) As a rogue, or any other melee class for that matter, finds it pretty dang annoying not being able to slow, stun the hunter sometimes. Not only that but the pet white hits for that of a character. Just my two cent's, and sorry for the bad grammer.
#5 May 16 2007 at 3:46 AM Rating: Default
Agreed!

Ive heard lots of **** about most/all Characters about Nerf'in... Its people how can only Duel and Win a Player 20 lvls lower than themselves...

On the otherhand.. Warlocks are VERY Powerful and in my personal opinion need to be nerf'd not to the point they do no damage but maybe a little less... as i was feared a good 5 or 6 times by a Warlook 2 levels higher than me in a duel... I thought we could only be fear up to 3 times??

Anyways... not a rant or anything just an opinion...

But Hey Us Hunters need to stick together...
#6 May 16 2007 at 4:51 AM Rating: Decent
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i think it's because they have about 3 fear spells, and each may have less effect on you but all together, they can still be used a lot.

considering nuking or spell classes, when they can get +1000 damage on some spells, it seems like non-spell casters only can work on getting gear to increase STA or ATK, which won't be +1000. imagine a warrior with +1000 damage, hehe.

but to see the point of it, a base damage of 1000-1200, then add on up to +1000 damage? when they throw 3 dots on you, you're going to be out about 6600 HP in 30 seconds. that's before the fear and shadowbolts kick in (which may also have the +1000 damage on it), or the pet attacks.

what i find more interesting though, is that with 20-25% spell crit rate, and our pvp gear (and your average non-pvp gear which many people are wearing) doesn't have +resists, so you're in danger from frost, nature, shadow, and fire spells taking a huge chunk of you very fast.


#7 May 16 2007 at 5:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey there, Now I have a lock main, and a hunter alt. With my lock, I have a real hard time with hunters who spec BM, when you cant fear a pet away, it makes for a very hard time. But that is besides the point. Hunters dont need a nerf, anyone that says that is just a sore loser, every class in the game has thier strengths, as well as thier weeknessess. If someone gets in melee range of a hunter, its pretty much over, unless you can trap them and get away...

Reccyuk wrote:
On the otherhand.. Warlocks are VERY Powerful and in my personal opinion need to be nerf'd not to the point they do no damage but maybe a little less... as i was feared a good 5 or 6 times by a Warlook 2 levels higher than me in a duel... I thought we could only be fear up to 3 times??


Now having a warlock main, I absolutly hate when people say this. Just like when the OP said he hates when people say hunters should get nerfed. Warlocks have 3 types of fear. Howl Of Terror (40 sec CD), Death Coil (2min CD), and regular fear, which has diminishing returns (About half the time for each fear cast, 1st fear = 20sec - 2nd fear = 10sec and so on). And fear has been nerfed a few times, but just like hunters with their traps, and concusive shot, Fear is a warlocks defense, without it, locks would just be meat for the grinder, and everyone would be able to beat them, (not so fair that way).

Nerf this class, nerf that class.. It gets redundant and tiresome, the only reason people say this is because they hate losing, if they get beat by a class, they say nerf them. Hunters are ranged DPS, Mages are ranged DPS, Warlocks (Depending on spec) are ranged DPS or Pet DPS, Rogues are melee DPS, Warriors are melee DPS, priests are ranged DPS, you get the point? Every class has its strengths and weaknessess, it was made this way to even out the playing field. So that one class is not dominant over the game, and as hunters, we should be happy that we can DPS good, staying away from the emeny while filling him with arrows/bullets is what we do best. Dont whine, play the game.. If others start crying nerf at you, tell them to learn how to play thier class, then duel again.
#8 May 16 2007 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
I agree, but I think you're preaching to the choir posting here =P Most Hunters don't have a problem with our class, it's every other class who thinks they do OH SO MUCH MORE than we do.

Just because we don't mesh buttons 90% of the time for every fight, don't mean we do not contribute? Just because we don't need to be behind the mobs for our DPS we don't contribute?

Everyone is yelling about how easy hunter is, well then roll one! Sounds like everyone is jealous that we can sit back and take pop shots at the mobs.

It really sucks that I've been in parties with horrible warriors (dual weilding while tanking :/ ), main healer Druids that spent 90% of the time in cat form, Rogues that purposly over DD and did nothing to get rid of the mobs attention, mages that opened every battle with a AoE spell, priest main healers in shadow form :/ The list goes on and on, yet all I keep reading about is Hunter this hunter that.

#9 May 16 2007 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
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It isn't so much that we don't have to... but that we should not.

Hunters, like rogues, are supposed to know how and when to pull their punches, in addition to, like mages, needing to know how long we have to make our mana last.

It all comes down to timing... knowing when and where to hit those buttons so that you aren't just autoshooting for 3/4 of the fight.
#10 May 16 2007 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
GYFFORD wrote:
Everyone is yelling about how easy hunter is, well then roll one! Sounds like everyone is jealous that we can sit back and take pop shots at the mobs.



/agree!!

I hated fighting Hunters for the longest time. My main I started over a year and a half ago was a pally. He's 69 now. I've had a Lock a warrior, a mage, and a twink rogue. Various other small lame charactars that are not worth mentioning. I honestly disliked and hated the Hunter class because I thought they were "easy mode" and overpowered. So I did exectly what you suggest to anyone else. Which is what I suggest. I rerolled a freakin Hunter.

OMG! Being Hunter honestly is easy mode. In PvP it's just so fun!! My Hunter is now 69 also. Full MM with a few in BM. I have to say. I'm glad a rerolled I Hunter. Easy to lvl with, fun to PvP with. The only thing that is kinda blah is the small demand for end game for Hunters. That I personnaly have seen. But that doesn't bother me at all I don't enjoy end game anyways. My main point was I absolutely love the Hunter class now. I used to hate it and think it was Overpowered but the class really isn't. It's just a fun class bottom line. I'm glad I got over the overpower trip and rolled a Hunter. I now have two Hunters one for lvling and the second for twink at 19 :)
#11 May 16 2007 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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GYFFORD wrote:
Everyone is yelling about how easy hunter is, well then roll one! Sounds like everyone is jealous that we can sit back and take pop shots at the mobs.


Absolutly, My first character was a hunter. I started him, played him till about lvl 34. Then I didnt play for about a year or so.. and when I got back into the game, I wanted to try all the other classes. Now that my lock is almost 70, I rolled another hunter. Hunters are easy to play, when you learn how to play them, just like with any other class.

But I absolutly agree with you..
#12 May 17 2007 at 3:52 AM Rating: Default
No im not saying Nerf the Lock to nothing.. but common.. 3x3 Fears?? A minimum of 9 times per Duel/Fight we can be Feared...

I win fights i lose fights... i lose most of them... but hey... Im not a fantastic PVP/Duelin Player... but hey i give it my best shot... (Auto Shot ... Joke)

I Like Playing my hunter... very hard to get into Inst Groups...

But Yes.. Nerf all Characters... That way no-one will complain... well not about nerfing anyways lol
#13 May 17 2007 at 6:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I didnt have that problem with the warlock. then again as soon as i saw that black orb in his hands /cast beastial wraith Dun and Dun. That guy was toast. I dueled a priest who got his fear spell on me but then again iwa s only lvl 47 and unable to have beast within yet. so he feared me behind a pillar and he got ate alive by my pet. =D He said damn! Why didnt that work. I laughed.
#14 May 17 2007 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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No im not saying Nerf the Lock to nothing.. but common.. 3x3 Fears?? A minimum of 9 times per Duel/Fight we can be Feared...

No disrespect to locks, but that's the easiest class for me to beat. The whole DoT thing don't compare to the burst damage I can lay down in just a few seconds. Freeze trap the pet, and it's on like donkey kong.

Not tooting my horn, but with Beastial Wrath, being immune to fear effects, that's about 10 seconds of dumping all my mana. If they survive that, then they'll fear the hell out of me and prolly win by bandage/kiting.
#15 May 21 2007 at 5:09 AM Rating: Decent
Fear was rarely used as "defense" or "control"... When mage sheep stuff they don't do it directly to kill, they do it either to banadge themselves after wasting paladin's bubble, or most often to kill OTHER people while keeping the concept of "CC".

See if sheep does not heal target, and only break on damage CHANCE, you will be crying for nerf too (like whats done to nova). If locks really wants "defense" or "CC" then help blizzard "fix" fear, or fear will continue to be "nerf" as (noob) locks continues to use fear extremely offensively to "gamble" an extremely easy kill. (target trinket on CD, fear didn't break this time, etc...)

Edited, May 21st 2007 9:11am by Gobio
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