Well just about the weapons Shamans can use.
Rockbiter is more effective on fast weapons and flametongue on slower weapons.
Ice i guess is better on fast weapons for more procs. What about windfury? more procs with faster weps but with slower higher damage weps you get a big bonus from the proc.
i have a few questions though about the stuff i dont know.
What are the calculations for rockbiter? its adds [let say the 6th rank] 28dps. So what does that mean overall?
flametongue does more damage per swing with slower weapons. Does that mean that each time i hit something the damage goes up everytime? if i attack something else is it carried on [only going when combat ends] or it restarts from the standard?
And does anyone dual wield daggers? Most shamans are dual wielding maces. Whats the difference between 2h axes and maces? Maces more damge but slower and axes faster but less damage?
any other data, anything you want to add about weapons for shamans please go ahead and post about it.
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Rockbiter is more effective on fast weapons and flametongue on slower weapons.
Ice i guess is better on fast weapons for more procs. What about windfury? more procs with faster weps but with slower higher damage weps you get a big bonus from the proc.
Ice i guess is better on fast weapons for more procs. What about windfury? more procs with faster weps but with slower higher damage weps you get a big bonus from the proc.
Rockbiter is equally effective on all weapons. All it does is add ap so its the same on both. Flametongue will hit more on fast weapons but not as hard so it's not nessecairaly more effective on fast. Ice is on a ppm(procs per minute)scale meaning it will proc the same amount regardless of weapon speed. Windfury has a "hidden cooldown" of 3 seconds meaning you can't get 2 windfury procs in rapid succesion there fore it's better on weapons closer to a 3 second speed.
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What are the calculations for rockbiter? its adds [let say the 6th rank] 28dps. So what does that mean overall?
28 dps is the equivalent of 342 ap. ap will give you more damage per hit. To find it use this formula. Attack Power x Weapon Speed / 14. so a weapon with a speed of 2 seconds will have 48 damage added to each hit.
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flametongue does more damage per swing with slower weapons. Does that mean that each time i hit something the damage goes up everytime? if i attack something else is it carried on [only going when combat ends] or it restarts from the standard?
Not sure what your'e trying to ask. Flametongue instead of adding damage to your weapon will add it's own damage. in essence it will cast a spell after every hit doing (for instance in rank 7) 40.4 to 124.3 (not taking weapon speed into account). to find the damage per hit with speed acounted for this is the formula ive gotten from wowkiki. im ot sure exactly where the first number in the formula comes from but at lvl 70 this is the formula. 28 * weaponspeed + spellpower / 10. with a weapon speed of 2.00 the damage is 56.
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And does anyone dual wield daggers? Most shamans are dual wielding maces. Whats the difference between 2h axes and maces? Maces more damge but slower and axes faster but less damage?
Most shaman duelwield a slow main hand and a fast off hand. The slow main hand will give you the max damage from windfury. The fast off hand will give more chances for unleashed rage to proc and more mana regained from shammy rage. theres no difference between axes and maces.
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any other data, anything you want to add about weapons for shamans please go ahead and post about it.
take into account rb dmg in offhand is halved unlike FT altho FT proc crits seperatley so it all depends on what you prefer better burst or dps on offhand but if it is gonna be fast weapon burst on it is already much lower then your main hand.
wowow one moment.
Even though iam an infomaniac i have one small weakness, i keep forgetting shortterms.
what is WB, RB and FT?
Thanks for the all the information it helps a lot.
Anyway what i meant with the flame tongue is hte explanation
"slower weapons give more damage per swing" Does that mean the damage increases per swing?
Even though iam an infomaniac i have one small weakness, i keep forgetting shortterms.
what is WB, RB and FT?
Thanks for the all the information it helps a lot.
Anyway what i meant with the flame tongue is hte explanation
"slower weapons give more damage per swing" Does that mean the damage increases per swing?
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wowow one moment.
Even though iam an infomaniac i have one small weakness, i keep forgetting shortterms.
what is WB, RB and FT?
Thanks for the all the information it helps a lot.
Anyway what i meant with the flame tongue is hte explanation
"slower weapons give more damage per swing" Does that mean the damage increases per swing?
Even though iam an infomaniac i have one small weakness, i keep forgetting shortterms.
what is WB, RB and FT?
Thanks for the all the information it helps a lot.
Anyway what i meant with the flame tongue is hte explanation
"slower weapons give more damage per swing" Does that mean the damage increases per swing?
wf=windfury
rb=rockbiter
Ft=flametongue
Fb=Frostbrand
If flametongue does for instance 10 to 50 damage on each swing a slower weapon will do closer to 50 while a fast weapon will do closer to 10.
ah thanks, that whay initially thought but i had this lingering doubt.
so does anyone use 2handed weapons late game? to move the DPS slide more to the max per hit? or is it just two slow to be worthile with UR or SR?
2-handed weapons are good for PvP late game (yay for crazy WF burst) but I can't imagine anyone using one for PvE. The damage is worse in the long run, and it causes aggro spikes, which is bad considering aggro is already a big problem for enhancement shaman.
On a side note, I've pondered a resto build that went far enough into enhancement to get 2-handers just to solo with. Something like 0/11/50 or 0/21/40 or something, I've not really made up my mind, and it would depend if I wanted to try and instance with it.
On a side note, I've pondered a resto build that went far enough into enhancement to get 2-handers just to solo with. Something like 0/11/50 or 0/21/40 or something, I've not really made up my mind, and it would depend if I wanted to try and instance with it.
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i have a lvl 18 elemental shammy usin a staff atm (wind rider staff i think, off that quest in the barrens) should i keep usin it or get 1hander and shield?
why not have both? As an elemental you'll need those nifty +spellpower staffs. When things go bad pull out a mace and shield.
Item rack is an addon that lets you make "sets" and create hotkeys for them without assigning a slot for them. for example. You have riding crop and/or carrot on a stick, while fighting you can have 2 other trinkets, but when you choose you ride, you click a button to wear them in your inventory and click to equip your mount.
so make 2 sets one with a staff and one with a mace and sheild. and link them to N and M or whichever key you find suitable.
Edited, May 20th 2007 12:48pm by Tenjen
Item rack is an addon that lets you make "sets" and create hotkeys for them without assigning a slot for them. for example. You have riding crop and/or carrot on a stick, while fighting you can have 2 other trinkets, but when you choose you ride, you click a button to wear them in your inventory and click to equip your mount.
so make 2 sets one with a staff and one with a mace and sheild. and link them to N and M or whichever key you find suitable.
Edited, May 20th 2007 12:48pm by Tenjen
i personally like having a mage dagger main hand and a more dps oriented weapon off hand. That seems to work fine for me; I have enough mana to dps and heal myself. Has no-one else tried this? Cause I really dont see this very often.
I use 2 of the slowest 1h weapons I can get to maximise my WF procs, whether unleash rage procs often is of little consequence to me (1 talent point only to get SR).
But then I will not benefit as much when I use Shamanistic rage? I keep another pair of fast daggers to get around this.
/macro
/cast Shamanistic rage
/equip (fast weapon)
/equip (fast weapon)
Edit: The macro is not working fine, refer to my next post for details.
Edited, May 22nd 2007 12:49am by Lecanthi
But then I will not benefit as much when I use Shamanistic rage? I keep another pair of fast daggers to get around this.
/macro
/cast Shamanistic rage
/equip (fast weapon)
/equip (fast weapon)
Edit: The macro is not working fine, refer to my next post for details.
Edited, May 22nd 2007 12:49am by Lecanthi
I use two slow one-handers and put WF5 and WF4 on them. WF5 on my main hand and WF4 on my offhand. Right now different ranks are not affected by the 3 second cooldown, but come patch 2.1, I will switch to a faster offhand with RB and keep WF5 on my high-damage range mainhand, or I may try out two handers, depends on the DPS difference.
I perfer a faster main had weapon. I have a 1.5 speed dagger and when hit flurry and berserking I hit really fast. I usually have WF on my main had because it hits more than off-hand (at least for me). At level 40 I seem to be doing fine with this but I may try a slower MH weapon.
Ok the macro I posted above is giving me problems.
/cast Shamanistic rage
/equip (fast weapon)
/equip (fast weapon)
this only equips my main hand with the first dagger & then change it to the 2nd dagger. The offhand weapons is untouched by the macro.
Can anybody help me tweak this macro a bit? Like /equip offhand (fast dagger) or something. What's the script for offhand anyway?
/cast Shamanistic rage
/equip (fast weapon)
/equip (fast weapon)
this only equips my main hand with the first dagger & then change it to the 2nd dagger. The offhand weapons is untouched by the macro.
Can anybody help me tweak this macro a bit? Like /equip offhand (fast dagger) or something. What's the script for offhand anyway?
I'm a dual-wield enhancement shammy. I have been using fist weapons for quite some time now. So far from what I have seen the damage the fist weapons do just doesn't compare to the damage maces and axes due. I have just now got a decent axe that has around the same damage as my fist and is faster so I'm thinking of using it in my offhand but havn't decided yet. Does anyone else use fist weapons? I have found they work extremely well for me. I'm using:
Ripfang Paw (Main Hand)
113-210 Damage
2.70 Speed
59.8 DPS
Agil+10, Stam+9, AP+32
Mag'hari Fury Brand
109-204 Damage
2.50 Speed
62.6 DPS
Agil+13, Stam+19, AP+26
Would you say I should switch to maces/axes or stick with these? I so far have found them really nice cause there slow like the maces but have the damage of axes, and they give me some nice WF Procs.
Ripfang Paw (Main Hand)
113-210 Damage
2.70 Speed
59.8 DPS
Agil+10, Stam+9, AP+32
Mag'hari Fury Brand
109-204 Damage
2.50 Speed
62.6 DPS
Agil+13, Stam+19, AP+26
Would you say I should switch to maces/axes or stick with these? I so far have found them really nice cause there slow like the maces but have the damage of axes, and they give me some nice WF Procs.
Heres how it goes with shammy weapons. a slow mh and a fast oh. this will increase the mana you get from sr and the amount of ur procs. Wf is nerfed up the *** now so two slow weapons just dont put out the same amount of damage they used to.
it wasnt nerfed it was corrected. That 2 rank thing was an exploit.
Just because Blizz say it was a fix does not mean it's true, it was a nerf plain and simple. If it was a fix it would do what the tooltip says it will do, this is not the case.
Anyway, what do people think of using RB on both hands?
Anyway, what do people think of using RB on both hands?
You guys know that the added damage from RB on the off hand is cut by half while FT is not, right?
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