Hai
I want to make an enhancement shaman for levelling AND pvp.
I want to be the guy who deals large amounts of damage in a short time, therefore by seeing enhancement stormstrike windfury shaman videos, I decided to want to make an enhancement shaman.
I intend to go mining/smithing because the end-game weapons I can get from macesmithing seems very nice, I saw a 2hander mace with 110dps, and over 110 stats in total! Good idea?
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enhancement is not the best for endgame pvp but it is still fun, and 2h are a great weapon of choice for pvp. Going mace smith will also get you a pimp 1h mace for pve so you can have a nice DW weapon, all works out ^^
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What do you mean by not the best choice?
Looking at all the enhancement vids, their burst dps is awesome, they can take someone down to half health in half a second!
Oh and new question, what are enhancement shamans in pvp good for in the endgame? Lets say I had a 2-handed mace. I needed to ask this question because the vids I saw might be before the BC release and major patches.
Edited, May 11th 2007 1:39am by hatmaster
Looking at all the enhancement vids, their burst dps is awesome, they can take someone down to half health in half a second!
Oh and new question, what are enhancement shamans in pvp good for in the endgame? Lets say I had a 2-handed mace. I needed to ask this question because the vids I saw might be before the BC release and major patches.
Edited, May 11th 2007 1:39am by hatmaster
youre good at respecing elemental
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uhh I don't want to respec elemental .... if I wanted to cast spells I would roll a mage instead
Might want to look into engineering. Lots of great items for PvPing and staying alive. Can just buy mats for Smithing.
Elemental can rock, and Resto can take a crap load of damage to the face. But Burst Stormstrikers can be more fun. Since ElE shamans have so few long range spells. Spitting bolts over and over gets old really fast. Even with high numbers.
A good crafter can pull in plenty of gold or anyone with half a brain 58+. Why not play more then one spec once you hit 60+? Play Resto for raids and groups. Then switch to Ele for some PvP fun. Then over to Enhancement for some grinding. You get to carry a lot of great items, and are well rounded like a pizza with extra cheese.
Don't limit yourself to only one spec. Your trainers will let you have your cake and eat it, too!
Elemental can rock, and Resto can take a crap load of damage to the face. But Burst Stormstrikers can be more fun. Since ElE shamans have so few long range spells. Spitting bolts over and over gets old really fast. Even with high numbers.
A good crafter can pull in plenty of gold or anyone with half a brain 58+. Why not play more then one spec once you hit 60+? Play Resto for raids and groups. Then switch to Ele for some PvP fun. Then over to Enhancement for some grinding. You get to carry a lot of great items, and are well rounded like a pizza with extra cheese.
Don't limit yourself to only one spec. Your trainers will let you have your cake and eat it, too!
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I won't limit myself to one spec, the elemental tree looks appitising too, but enhancement seems more fun for now.
Anyway I will probably go mining/smithing until I get that powerful 2handed mace I want, then I will probably change mining to engineering, because I would have enough money to buy mats and I will have no more use for mining.
I won't skip mining yet because I dont have a 70 to support me, I only have a 46 pally as my main so far.
Thanks for the help guys I have all the things I need now!
Anyway I will probably go mining/smithing until I get that powerful 2handed mace I want, then I will probably change mining to engineering, because I would have enough money to buy mats and I will have no more use for mining.
I won't skip mining yet because I dont have a 70 to support me, I only have a 46 pally as my main so far.
Thanks for the help guys I have all the things I need now!
the thing is, enhancement relies on windfury procs, if you don't get a proc, you're basically ****** considering your mana pool is ****.
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20% sounds good to me
OK NEW QUESTION:
Should I be a macesmith or axesmith?
I want to focus on pvp as an endgame shaman, and I am an orc, so I got +5 to axes.
So should I take macesmithing (their maces give stats)
Or should I take axesmithing? (their axes give attack power and crit rating)
And what are the pros and cons of endgame pvp for these:
Dual Wield?
2-handed weapon?
Edited, May 12th 2007 5:38am by hatmaster
OK NEW QUESTION:
Should I be a macesmith or axesmith?
I want to focus on pvp as an endgame shaman, and I am an orc, so I got +5 to axes.
So should I take macesmithing (their maces give stats)
Or should I take axesmithing? (their axes give attack power and crit rating)
And what are the pros and cons of endgame pvp for these:
Dual Wield?
2-handed weapon?
Edited, May 12th 2007 5:38am by hatmaster
Scholar
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WF burst relies on a very slow 2-hander, and it procs one in five times. Sometimes you'll not get a proc until that 5th swing. Well, assume you have a 3.0 second weapon and it procs on the 5th swing. Thats 15 seconds you just spent fighting at auto attack dps. Granted, the next swing is going to do massive damage ... but that is also assuming you're still alive and not in any form of cc which might prevent you from being in melee range of your target.
On the other hand it's beautiful seeing WF proc on your first swing, shock, and then have WF proc again for the kill. Battle over in a matter of seconds.
A lot of people are still under the impression that WF = I win. Its good burst damage, which is king in pvp, but in no way an I win button. Its completely useless if it doesn't proc, and extremely irritating.
On the other hand it's beautiful seeing WF proc on your first swing, shock, and then have WF proc again for the kill. Battle over in a matter of seconds.
A lot of people are still under the impression that WF = I win. Its good burst damage, which is king in pvp, but in no way an I win button. Its completely useless if it doesn't proc, and extremely irritating.
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So should I take macesmithing (their maces give stats)
Or should I take axesmithing? (their axes give attack power and crit rating)
And what are the pros and cons of endgame pvp for these:
Dual Wield?
2-handed weapon?
Or should I take axesmithing? (their axes give attack power and crit rating)
And what are the pros and cons of endgame pvp for these:
Dual Wield?
2-handed weapon?
Depends on what you want out of your shaman. Stats give survivability and consistency, crit and ap gives more damage and more WTF Pwnage. My suggestion is to look at the pvp gear, look at the gear you'll be getting yourself into, and choose which those sets do not do for you. You also want to look at high end damage on the weapons and let that weigh heavily on which to go. You want the highest high end weapon that is the closest to a 3 second swing as you can get, without going under 3 seconds. WF has a hidden 3 second cooldown, so if it procs and your weapon attacks again 2.9 seconds later it will not proc WF, even if was supposed to.
As far as Dual Wielding, don't do it in pvp. Its great for consistent dps (ideal for raiding and pve), but horrible for burst damage. Also, the hidden WF cooldown prevents pretty much all 1-handed weapons from proccing twice in a row. Dual Wielding WF is also useless for the same hidden cooldown reasons.
As a rogue, one of the toughest opponents I ever came across was a Troll Dual Wielding Enchancment Shaman.
We were grinding motes of air in the elemental plateau in Nagrand. As I usually do, I thought I'd stealth in for an easy kill. (ele & resto are pretty simple if I get jump on them, as they're pretty much silenced for majority of fight)
Anyhow, I got owned, again, and again. If I'd lose I'd get back to life and go heal and then try again to improve my strategy. This Shaman was very good, and my health would shoot down VERY fast I nearly sh.it myself!
Made me want to continue leveling my Shaman. :)
We were grinding motes of air in the elemental plateau in Nagrand. As I usually do, I thought I'd stealth in for an easy kill. (ele & resto are pretty simple if I get jump on them, as they're pretty much silenced for majority of fight)
Anyhow, I got owned, again, and again. If I'd lose I'd get back to life and go heal and then try again to improve my strategy. This Shaman was very good, and my health would shoot down VERY fast I nearly sh.it myself!
Made me want to continue leveling my Shaman. :)
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You say I should get a weapon close to 3 sec
Yet the high end smithing 2handers are at 3.7 second swingtime.
Is that ok?
I'm thinking of mining/engineering now, the high end smithing weps are too slow, and I can get good arena vendor weapons anyway, which are faster ... good idea?
Edited, May 12th 2007 8:30pm by hatmaster
Yet the high end smithing 2handers are at 3.7 second swingtime.
Is that ok?
I'm thinking of mining/engineering now, the high end smithing weps are too slow, and I can get good arena vendor weapons anyway, which are faster ... good idea?
Edited, May 12th 2007 8:30pm by hatmaster
Scholar
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Both have their pros and cons. 3.7 swing time means that when WF does proc its going to hit very hard due to slower weapons having a higher high end damage.
But if WF doesn't proc on the first swing, you're going to have to wait .7 seconds longer for the next swing than if you had a 3 second attack speed. That may not sound like a whole lot, but how about the 4th swing? Thats 2.8 additional seconds you've killed waiting for WF to proc. In .2 seconds, had you been wielding a 3 second attack speed weapon, WF would def had procced and your target probably dead. A faster slow weapon also means you'll have a better chance of WF to proc multiple times in the same fight.
But, this brings us back to whether or not you'll be able to get 5 swings off over the course of a fight. Crowd Control is an enhancement shamans nightmare. There's a good chance you won't get more than 2-3 swings in before you're rooted, sheeped, novaed, stunlocked, kited, feared, etc. Thats why many enhancement shaman just get the slowest weapon they can and pray for a WF proc, knowning they won't get to swing their big weapon but a few times anyways.
Completely up to you, though I'd go with the pvp weapons. They are afterall designed entirely around pvping :P
If you do want to do some pve though I'd suggest mace or axes.
But if WF doesn't proc on the first swing, you're going to have to wait .7 seconds longer for the next swing than if you had a 3 second attack speed. That may not sound like a whole lot, but how about the 4th swing? Thats 2.8 additional seconds you've killed waiting for WF to proc. In .2 seconds, had you been wielding a 3 second attack speed weapon, WF would def had procced and your target probably dead. A faster slow weapon also means you'll have a better chance of WF to proc multiple times in the same fight.
But, this brings us back to whether or not you'll be able to get 5 swings off over the course of a fight. Crowd Control is an enhancement shamans nightmare. There's a good chance you won't get more than 2-3 swings in before you're rooted, sheeped, novaed, stunlocked, kited, feared, etc. Thats why many enhancement shaman just get the slowest weapon they can and pray for a WF proc, knowning they won't get to swing their big weapon but a few times anyways.
Completely up to you, though I'd go with the pvp weapons. They are afterall designed entirely around pvping :P
If you do want to do some pve though I'd suggest mace or axes.
all i have to say is....have fun being an unbreakable noob and not using your class to the fullest. Imma laugh if you come on the forms and people complain about you not dropping totems or you not healing n such. We arnt a melee class we are a hybird meaning you use everything to kill. GL with your shaman your gonna find out in the later levels how easy it will be for you to die especially when rogues stunnlock from start to finish.
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We arnt a melee class we are a hybird meaning you use everything to kill. GL with your shaman your gonna find out in the later levels how easy it will be for you to die especially when rogues stunnlock from start to finish.
Yeah, I mean the only class that can melee are Warriors and rogues. Paladins have healing spells, and should only do that. /sarcasm off. Speccing into certain trees means you will mostly do what that tree is all about.
Most people get stunlocked from start to finish with many rogues because thats what they are supposed to do.
-suzuki
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all i have to say is....have fun being an unbreakable noob and not using your class to the fullest. Imma laugh if you come on the forms and people complain about you not dropping totems or you not healing n such. We arnt a melee class we are a hybird meaning you use everything to kill. GL with your shaman your gonna find out in the later levels how easy it will be for you to die especially when rogues stunnlock from start to finish.
Oh I'm sorry, did I say I will never drop totems? Did I say I will never heal? Did I say I will put all my 61 points in Enhancement and none in the other trees? I didn't say that kid, of course I would be doing that, if I didn't believe in doing that, my Paladin would be buffing mobs to death.
Shamans ARE a melee class, that is why we wouldn't weild ranged weapons! BTW rogues pretty much stunlock most people to death, so don't give me that excuse.
Shamans are a hybrid class, but I choose my main strength to be in enhancement, I will still be dropping totems and casting heals, still want me to become somebody else? Make me. Don't assume facts without proof.
Oh and I will have fun, 'Imma laugh' now.
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Shamans ARE a melee class, that is why we wouldn't weild ranged weapons!
nice logic rofl, some of you people are ******* morons.
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