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Why would a hunter melee in PVPFollow

#1 May 09 2007 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
recently ive been pvping alot, and ive run into this in more than one occassion against more than one hunter, a hunter running straight at me and trying to melee me

I was recently in an intense AB match and while i was defending LM all by my lonesome, a single ally hunter came and tried to kill me

the race of this hunters makes no differance, but this stout bearded fellow didnt try and shoot me from afar, nor did he drop a trap to stop me pet, but instead run straight at me and tried to melee me

needless to say he went down fast with little effort, and the only reason why i let him get me down past 1k health is cause of my pure confusion about his battle desicion

so my question is, is there some reason a hunter would try and melee ANYTHING, specificly another hunter in pvp that i havent thought of?
#2 May 09 2007 at 8:34 PM Rating: Default
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For clarification, what class are you? If you're a survival hunter you could probably pull off meleeing another hunter (assuming they're BM or Marks) because you will melee better than they will. But for the most part, it's just huntards who think they're rogues.

A few things though...1. alliance SUCKS at AB. I play both ally and horde, and I have to say on my horde (only toon I've done extensive BG's on) I've won probably 90-95% of my AB's.

I'm just wondering if you're a hunter (which it kind of looks like from your post) how you wound up severely beating the other hunter, unless you're twinked or you are a melee hunter yourself.
#3 May 09 2007 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent
i am indeed a huner, at the time i was MM but now im BM, and it was simple, i just dropped a freezing trap, dropped back, aimed shot, CS, then kiited him around, cause even at full range, he tried to melee me

and im not a twink either, dont go the money to twink myself out =P
#4 May 09 2007 at 8:48 PM Rating: Default
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Oh okay, so you didnt go toe-to-toe. Maybe he was OOA?
#5 May 09 2007 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
i sure hope so.

i believe myself to be an at least decent hunter when it comes to pvp, and ive never imagined of trying to melee any class, especially one that is most powerful long range and that comes with a few abilitys to keep it far away.
#6 May 10 2007 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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If I am SV and another hunter isnt, I will pretty much always try to melee.. between deterence, counterattack, savage strikes, surefooted, resourcefulness entrapement, and typically high hp builds, its a lot better than trying to take a marksman on from range, or letting a BM hit on you while maintaining long range..

Traps are just as easily avoidable by a hunter as anyone else.. moreso since you know what to expect.

The thing about the abilities you use to keep someone from range, is that they are just as effective at keeping people IN range. And, an MM hunter particularly kept in range is basically useless. I would say that if you killed him that easily, he probably sucked pretty badly.
#7 May 10 2007 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
From some of the threads I've seen here and on other sites some huntards think they can run around without pets, and that they can melee like rogues and warriors. In PuGs when I've found them I kick them and find someone else. I don't understand why you would pick a ranged and pet class, and then not have a pet and try to melee. The dumbest excuse I heard was that their pet ate to much and he was tired of feeding it so he didn't want to call it to run the instance.
#8 May 10 2007 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I can understand trying to melee with another hunter, but only if the other hunter closes in, not as the primary method of attack. Additionally, once you started shooting and he was trying to chase you down instead of shooting back, the only thing I can think about is, maybe he forgot to load up on ammo before the BG.

I occasionally end up meleeing instead of trying to get ranged distance because there are several opponents, all of whom have some kind of snare on me. I’d rather turn around and try to hit a little than keep trying to run while they whack at my back.

1v1, I’ve hurt some rogues and warriors pretty good by meleeing because they didn’t expect it. I don’t know if those would be considered “good” warrs and rogues, or maybe their gear was not some uber heavy STA/DEF gear, but anyway, the end result is, it was a better melee result than I had expected. So don’t be afraid to hit a few times if you need to, but of course, try to get away if you can.






Edited, May 10th 2007 4:34pm by bluegayle
#9 May 10 2007 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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The only time hunters should come within melee is when the other person is running in, and the hunter gets a raptorstrike/wing clip off, and runs back to range.
#10 May 10 2007 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
I try and melee when i get snared too, its just i usually try and drop a frost trap and then FD to get rid of agro off all the guys slamming on me, and alot of the time (supprisingly enough), they stop attacking and walk away from me, cause all they see is a hunter being wailed on by more then 1 person, whose quickly dying, so when they see me drop dead, they arent suprised at all.
#11 May 11 2007 at 3:48 AM Rating: Good
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ProjectMidnight wrote:
The only time hunters should come within melee is when the other person is running in, and the hunter gets a raptorstrike/wing clip off, and runs back to range.


That's my take on things as well.

Whenever I see a Melee Class running straight at me in PvP I always draw my weapons ... run straight at them like a maniac ... Wing Clip as I run THROUGH their toon ... and then try to get the heck out of dodge, and shoot them down as best I can.

Just those few seconds of Melee are often enough to take me to 50% health from full if it's a Warrior, or twink.

I don't understand hunters who think they can Melee. The only reason I keep my Melee skills even leveled is so Wing Clip will hit.

We recently had a hunter in my guild who Melee'd, and often got chewed, and booted. I finally convinced him to take the time to install a DPS counter, and then level his ranged, and compare the stats.

Needless to say he's pure ranged now.
#12 May 11 2007 at 5:43 AM Rating: Decent
In my mind a hunter using only melee weapons is like a rogue using his bow/throw weps./gun/crossbow for primary damage, it just makes no sense to me.
#13 May 11 2007 at 6:21 AM Rating: Decent
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The original post specified hunter VS hunter. That is a totally different ballgame to hunter vs ANY other class in the game.

Like I said, I am MUCH better off as an SV hunter in melee range vs a BM or MM hunter. That doesnt apply to any other class, since noone else has dead zones or becomes less effective at close range..

Of course, against every other class, I am always acting to get more range - but as an SV hunter against another hunter, most often I want to be in melee. Since SV is well and truly on top in melee ability compared with other hunters, while ranged differences are not as marked, there is an advantage in SV hunters meleeing other hunters in pvp.
#14 May 11 2007 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
The only time I have meleed in PvP was in a BG where some level 30 person ran up(I was 39), and I meleed them to death to make them look foolish.
#15 May 11 2007 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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A Beastmaster hunter may have an advantage against a Marksman hunter in melee as well.

But even if I decided that was my best bet, I wouldn't just charge at an enemy hunter (without firing). The original poster's opponent just sounds stupid.
#16 May 11 2007 at 1:54 PM Rating: Default
um my main is hunter and also i have a twink 19 hunter, and I use a 2hander with fiery and destroy all kthankz (F U +25 AGI FIGHT AGAINST DEE MACHEENZ)
#17 May 11 2007 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
Podan, if you were to fight against a truely talented hunter, that fiery you got wont do much against them, their +25 to agility, on the other hand, would shine with flying colors as he shoots you into nothingness.
#18 May 11 2007 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Podan wrote:
um my main is hunter and also i have a twink 19 hunter, and I use a 2hander with fiery and destroy all kthankz (F U +25 AGI FIGHT AGAINST DEE MACHEENZ)

huntard alert! huntard alert!


let me guess, you complain on the O-borads that rogues are killing you in melee?
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