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dont know its probably because people are b****** about it on the oboards like some crap like I AMS A WARLOCK I GOTS BEATED BY MAGE USINGS DOUBLE ICE BLOCKS WTF IMS SOPPOSED TO KILL MAGES NO MATTER WHAT FIX IT NOW BLIZZARD!!!!!!

Locks are mage killers. Everyone has their weak, almost no way to beat, class in pvp. What I dont like is a shadow bold doing 3500 or more with less + shadow dmg then I have + frost. That plus the dots plus the pet = more dps then a mage. I feel all the dps classes should be close on the dps "chart" and gear and skill is what should make you better dpser. No way a shadow bolt should more then a fire ball or frost bolt unless the mage is way under geared.

Rogues > Warlocks. No cooldowns required (unless you count your PvP trinket).

And if you think that Warlocks are overpowered and unstoppable, play one. I garuntee you'll change your tune in short order.

Mage CC is generally the best, disregarding situational encounters. However, I don't see how a 30 second gap between ice blocks is going to affect your DPS.

Also, warlocks may do more damage in the long run, but mages do much more burst damage, and bring along utility that locks can't offer (AI, water, portals, sheep, nova, etc). If your guild is starting to exclude mages, they're going to be very sorry when they really need one and find that all the mages are undergeared.

Okies, they don't resist rank one anymore than rank six my friend : P Just thought I would toss that out there. (this is why we don't buy frost nova past the first one...)

Second, locks are not the end all beat all everyone whines about. Get a fear trink, use your ice blocks to wipe fear and dots and a lock is a lot less scary. BTW locks get nerfed almost every patch too (albiet on a smaller scale than mages)

PVE a lock isn't amazing either. Fear is a horrible CC. Yeah I'll say it again for you guys so you don't have to go back and make sure I said it ~ Fear is a HORRIBLE CC. Does this sound good to you? DOT DOT Fear right into six more mobs. Sure you killed one ok but now what?

People die alot by locks because when they get feared they panic. The mouse starts flying across the screen like mad and you freeze up. A good lock can beat alot of things but that is why (as a mage) you must be better than the PERSON controling that lock. Skill matters in PVP. Find a lock who liked to fight and go to the arena. Fight over and over and you will see a lock is predictable. When you figure out what you have to do it just clicks for you and lock become alot less scary.


Back on topic~ Speaking of the arena, a mage had a really big advantage in the arena because we could WE, Block, CS, WE, Block. That is pretty much the cause for the nerf. In PVE it isn't going to matter much because if you are in bad enough shape to have to double block you're in over your head anyways.

The only thing I really see the Block nerf messing up is arena and 1v1 lock pvp (can't wipe fear/dots twice now which is def. going to make the fight a bit harder but not impossible)

Hope that clears some stuff up for you Fenwick

I lol'd at the somewhat inside mage joke contained here.

Whatever! I have a 70 mage and a 35 lock. My lock is affliction (best leveling spec) and has Z_E_R_O downtime. I use a technique called drain hunting which is similar to how a hunter plays. Send in voidwalker, dot, dot, dot, siphon health, life tap, life tap, drain health. Mob = dead, lock = full health & mana. Stop once in a while (for 5 seconds) for voidy to consume shadows (heal himself) and move on. Plus, fighting like this, I can go toe to toe with elites 2 levels higher than me, and win (though there is no room for error there).

I'd say that in PvE a lock is at least as effective as a mage (having leveled both... to 35 at least). Also, in 5 mans, we have a couple of locks in our guild that do *crazy* damage.

Yep. In our guild, a rogue is usually #1 on DPS (2K AP ftw!), followed by an elemental shammy, a warlock or two, a shadow priest, then the fire mages. (That elemental shammy is an abberation... he's the most insane player I've ever seen and priests cringe when they see him in the raid (as does our other healing shammy)).

Mages are not #1 dps anymore, but it is amazing that I see a lot of posts (especially on the o-boards) that say: I'm always #1 damage and ...<insert whatever statement they need to say>... Or, "In BG, I'm always #1 kills, #1 damage, #1 HKs.... <insert statement>..."