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#1 May 08 2007 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
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So my shopaholicness got the better of me, I picked up an Assassination Blade for MH and a Hanzo Sword for my OH.

Now it's time to chant em obviously.. so is Fiery really worth it on the Assassination Blade? It's a 2.70 speed. Definitely sticking it on the Hanzo.. but I'm not real sure how beneficial +5 dmg is on a MH weapon at 54. So +5dmg or Fiery on my MH?
#2 May 08 2007 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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Fiery imo.

+dmg only shines with the faster daggers. Maybe consider lifestealing too if you have the money for it, its not a bad enchant for that level.

edit: nm on the lifesteal, you'll probably only be using those weapons for 4 more levels.

Edited, May 8th 2007 10:18am by KTurner
#3 May 08 2007 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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Kturner wrote:
you'll probably only be using those weapons for 4 more levels.


Shit, lol. I really need to stop being so purchase happy. 150g down the drain on that I guess Smiley: tongue

At least I'll look all ninjafied for a few levels.
#4 May 08 2007 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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At least you can make 150g in about an hour of questing in the outlands.
#5 May 08 2007 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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True.. there's always a silver lining Smiley: grin

Actually.. I think I might throw lifestealing on the Hanzo. Should be nice for grinding with the 1.50 speed, and it seems I can use it till around 65ish w/o much problem. I've been leveling faster solo lately than instances anyways.

I'll just throw a +4dmg Chant on the soon to be rid of Assassination Blade for looks sake.
#6 May 08 2007 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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lifesteal is a PPM proc, so it doesnt matter the speed of the weapon. IMO, it should go on mainhand. All proc enchants should go on mainhand first, since that is where all the instant attacks come from.
#7 May 08 2007 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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Don't think I've ever seen "PPM," lol.

Givz me anserzz!!
#8 May 08 2007 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaain the Meaningless wrote:
Don't think I've ever seen "PPM," lol.

Givz me anserzz!!


It means proc per minute. Basically, proc based enchants like crusader, LS, fiery, etc... aren't based on a percentage proc rate (the way poisons are). If they were, faster weapons would proc them more often than slower weapons. Basically, crusader will proc once a minute on average. Fiery and LS are both ~6 times per minute IIRC. Now, if you want to get really techical, proc based enchants actually do go off more via slower weapons because of your instant attacks. Once you put the enchant on a weapon, it is actually assigned a percentage proc rate based on the speed of that weapon. So slower weapons will have a higher percentage proc chance, and thus will proc on a higher number of instant attacks.

Lets take crusader as an easy example (1 proc per minute). For ease of calculations, we're going to pretend that you have it on a 3s delay sword (lawl hemo) and also on a 1s delay dagger. The sword will (neglecting the large chance to miss on auto attacks) hit every 3 seconds which means 60/3 = 20 times per minute. That means to get a proc rate of 1 ppm, we need a 5% chance to proc with that weapon. Now take the dagger that hits every 1 seconds, or 60/1 = 60 times per minute. We still want 1 ppm, so we need a percentage of 1/60 = 1.66%. Now for instant attacks, that sword is going to be hitting with a 5% proc chance while the dagger will only have a 1.66% proc chance for instant attacks. This is further complicated by the fact that the sword would be using a 40 energy auto SS vs a 60 energy BS. Obviously a 1s dagger isn't a good BSing weapon - but it gets the point across.
#9 May 08 2007 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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but it gets the point across


That it did Smiley: smile. Very nice explanation.

Ok.. so ***** the pricey chants then, I'll just go with Weapon Dmg until I stop grinding by balls off and don't need to regularly upgrade.

Edited, May 8th 2007 2:46pm by Kaain
#10 May 08 2007 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks, LordMeridus. I was going to show the math behind it but for some reason alla went wonky and I decided to go to lunch instead :D
#11 May 08 2007 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Kaain the Meaningless wrote:
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but it gets the point across


That it did Smiley: smile. Very nice explanation.

Ok.. so ***** the pricey chants then, I'll just go with Weapon Dmg until I stop grinding by balls off and don't need to regularly upgrade.

Edited, May 8th 2007 2:46pm by Kaain


To be honest... how fast do you think you're going to level? Assassination blade + hanzo are a great pair. However, you'll likely replace them very soon. I know there are quest greens that spank them that I saw as soon as I hit outlands (and I was 60... you can do it at 58). I would just say that you should cut your losses and hold out a few levels. +3 wep damage isn't really expensive though... but it won't really do much to a 2.7 speed sword either :/
#12 May 08 2007 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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LordMeridus wrote:
+3 wep damage isn't really expensive though... but it won't really do much to a 2.7 speed sword either :/


Kaain wrote:
I'll just throw a +4dmg Chant on the soon to be rid of Assassination Blade for looks sake.


Smiley: grin
I know.. I just like the blue/white glowy-ness. And like ya said, I'll be rid of them so fast it's not going to matter anyway.
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