What do you guys think of "of the eagle" armor?Follow

I know it has no agility, crit, or AP, but it's got both of our secondary stats - stamina and intellect. But I feel kinda wierd as a hunter buying it, even though it has stats that will help me a lot. What are your thoughts, at least for low/mid levelling, on "of the eagle" equipment? Maybe not going exclusively "of the eagle", but some...

When I was leveling I never bought armor except for when I reached 40 and could upgrade to Mail. Then I did buy a few pieces, and was able to wear a few pieces I'd banked while approaching 40. I am a Skinner/DS LW, so I was able to make myself some armor, but buying it never seemed to make much sense. I bought a ranged piece or two while leveling, but those lasted longer and made a far greater impact on my performance than any single piece of armor could.
If I'd have had two gathering skills I'd have been far more interested in buying some pieces, since I'd have had a vastly greater amount of disposable Golds.

Just level up and use crafted items, quest rewards, and drops. You'll find that you've got more than adequate gear for PvE. If you PvP, your gear will make a much larger difference, but even then if you're not all twinked out there's not much difference to be seen with buying a few pieces of armor.

I've never considered STA as a major stat for my play style, mainly because I gave up BG's when they changed the system. I have enough 'incidental' STA on my gear (+50 on Crystal Forged Axe, for example) for me not to worry about it.

Personally, I would consider Falcon gear (AG/INT) over eagle, to boost the ol' mana pool for longer fights.

If it ain't got AG/AP on it somewhere, I ain't interested.

only if you are low on mana.
i usually stick to:
of the Hunt
of the Falcon
of the Bandit
of the Monkey
of Agility
of Power

of the elder
of the eagle
of intellect
(last 3 only when you run out of mana way to early)

For just leveling purposes, I'd really just suggest having Int and Agility. For the most part your pet should be tanking the majority of all the mobs you're fighting, so having Low HP shouldn't be to much of an issue. Plus you always have FD.

Of course there are exceptions, especially when you get 5 mobs on you that just keep dazing you, FD resists, and your pet is already dead. The extra HP might have helped in that situation.

Now, coming from a pvp server perspective, Sta + Int would definately be the way to go. Not all pieces as you suggested, but just a few to give you that extra boost to help you last longer in a pvp fight. Granted most low/mid lvl pvp is all about lvl 70's coming by and just squashing you, but you do find that occasional fair fight and your gear can help quite a bit.

If you aren't on a pvp server just disregard the above paragraph =P

Also it would depend on your spec. I believe in an earlier post you said you were attempting to lvl using Survival? If that's correct, you should be getting more HP fairly soon (depending on your lvl). Which should help you in negating a little +sta gear for more +agi and +int.

Just my 2 cents~

I consider your armor to be the better benefactor over your pet's stamina, which is the main reason I opted for more agility and int.

I believe a pet with more armor will tank better then a pet with maybe 100 more HP. Being able to reduce the damage taken by 50% as apposed to 45% far outweighs the miniscule amount of HP added from your own stats.

But that's my opinion.

Edited, May 11th 2007 11:38am by Joobishwun

Hey , if it's better than what you have and does you some good , go with it . Especially if it's a drop . As far as buying it , I'd probably pass ... I suppose it depends on your spc though . I personally went with alot of Falcon gear for quite awhile but I'm spec'd MM .

I dont use it. I only have wear blues from instances. Or a random drop that worked for me. If i buy a green item its always of the monkey.

I choose gear similar to Aethien. 'Of the Falcon' is my first choice where available. The +agility and +intellect stuff is best, IMO.

Santa, you want me to explain?

13 words and you think you have a vivid example? You said Eagle gear sucks, and it's like getting whale gear for a warlock. What's wrong with Eagle gear? How is whale gear bad for a warlock? I think of Stamina as a warlocks main stat, since it does the same for them as intellect and gives them more health. Also, most warlock spells don't crit exept for some destroy spells.

THAT was a better answer. Now, intellect WILL help your damage, because more shots means more damage. Maybe not your tooltip DPS, but any cat druid will tell you tooltips dont mean anymore than you think he can read.

And stamina helps your DPS, because if your health is 0, so is your DPS.

Coming from someone who called me out for not having enough details as to why Eagle gear sucked, and then proceeded to call me wrong without any of your own details, OK. I think it's time you learned how to have an argument without resorting to "o i thnk ur imature so dat maeks u rong".

I'm not even going to start on the rest of your post, but have you considered that more than one fight may occur without drinking? And the more Mana you have, the more you can nuke and use your most damaging skills. Less mana, means more downtime.

And whale/eagle gear IS acceptable for certain melee classes, especially for people who won't be bothered farming the instance blues or paying for the epics on the AH.

What you need to redefine for yourself, is the definition of suck. There is a certain difference between "not optimal" and "it sucks". Once you have discovered that difference, I suggest you look at the post you made which sparked this particular spat. I am sure you will understand exactly why you attracted such ire in the first place.

I can still remember when I wore full Dragonstalker, and being told "that sucks!" by some fella that had two pieces of GM gear, and one piece of T3. You are dangerously close to topping him.

Edited for accuracy.

Edited, May 12th 2007 12:23pm by NorthAI