The Best Minon A Warlock Can Have?Follow

I am a lv 43 warlock and I always hear that succbus is better than Imp, Voidwalker dominates all, the felguard is insane, etc.(they are just examples not my opinion) I am just wondering if you guys could tell me what you think is the best minon all around. Also, what are the good and bad points of each one. Thank You.

The above post is right on point

It really depends on your spec, honestly.

Voidwalker - Useless after level 30 when you can start drain tanking, not to mention he doesn't hold aggro for ****. I even had a build with 3/3 Imp Void and he still couldn't hold aggro, even after letting him get 2-3 taunts before DPSing. However, he's an AWESOME PvP tool when combined with Fel Domination to use for a 3-4k shield.

Imp - THE pet for a Dark Pact build. High regen, and a stamina buff. Also, good for the 20% threat reduction if you have points in MD. He's also arguably the best raid/instance pet, depending on the situation and what the group needs you to do. Also, a fire lock will usually be using Sac Demon for the 15% fire damage.

Felguard - Obviously, a 41 point Demo talent, so he's only useful for Demo locks. He has his uses. I didn't like him for soloing as much as drain tanking, but he's tons of fun in PvP and great for instances. Still, a great all around pet. Good for soloing, good for PvP, and good for grouping.

Succy - CC for instances. Although I hate using Seduce, it still provides useful for normal five mans, but seduce is near useless for heroics and raids. Alot of destruction locks will use it in PvP to get a few nukes off. Also, with MD you get 10% damage increase. She also does decent DPS and is ok to use for Soul Link. A few shadow specced locks might use DS to get the 15% shadow damage buff.

Felhunter - Devour magic is useful in all aspects of the game. Either dispelling an enemy, or dispelling yourself or a teammate. Spell Lock, obviously, is what it is. And Paranoia which I find is simply awesome for PvP. I always roll with a Felhunter. Although I think the Felguard is the funnest pet for PvP, Felhunter is my choice pet and the most useful. Paranoia just adds to that as I'm able to see stealthers ALOT earlier, and able to pull them from stealth before they expect to. The resist buff from MD is also very useful. Good companion for Soul Link.

And I could go on and on and on. Unlike a Hunter's pet, ours are very versatile. Depending on the spec and situation, we can use our pets for various purposes.

The "best" pet is subjective - situational. Study what they are good for.

The "best" pet doesn't exist - a smart warlock who knows what pets are good for and uses the right pet for the right occasion - that's what is going to come closest to "best."

Stop asking best this and best that. Sheesh! Too general. What do you do all day, read "top ten" lists?!

Well, sorry - everyone asks this over and over. Read what others posted - learn to be a good lock - learn what the various pets excel at - and do your best.

Btw there is a lot of bad info out there (like people saying VWs can't hold agro). Yes, VW's can hold agro if you know how to fight w/ one (hint, drain hunt (read compendium) - sic vw, do coa, cor - wait for second taunt to land - then immo, tap and drain and wand). Another misconception: Felguards use up mana fase. While Felgards do use up mana fast, if you buy 2/3 or 3/3 in Mana Feed - and if you tap and feed him mana - this is no problem at all.

If there is a "best" pet it's the Felguard. You give up a lot to get him, but you get a lot when you get him - and Demonology is not a bad set of talents, if you know how to use them. But a demo-lock w/ a felg is not a guaranteed win - a lot of fun - good at grinding and farming - good at pvp even in spite of people saying otherwise. Not so good at raiding - but you can sac and get ok dps w/ a demon build. GL!

Edited, May 8th 2007 4:26am by IponemaGirl

Your Imp's Fire Shield doesn't give fire resistance. At least not from what I've seen (they could've changed it).

On another note, does anyone know when they buffed our Voidwalker's Suffering spell? It now causes targets with Suffering on to miss more.

voidwalker solo pet succubus group pet imp works to felguard havent tried it highest lock is 30 o forgot felpuppy great anticaster decent pet wouldnt use it soloing.

2 Points into Mana Feed and your Felguard's Mana problems go away. As A Demo spec Warlock, the Felguard is by FAR the best PVE pet you will ever get, he does as much or more dps then the succy, and he can tank much better then the void. He doesnt have quite the hp or armor that the void does, but hes darn close...and since he packs quite the punch in terms of dps hes the best overall pet warlocks get.

I just never liked the idea of affliction locks because your pet just becomes your mana slave...other then a few minor abilities thats pretty much all they boil down to. If you think that a warlock and its pet are one in the same...seems stupid to shift the power to one and take it away from the other, demo keeps this balance prety even.

Thats just my 2c.

I'm actually using a Siphon Life/SL Aff/Demo hybrid build for PvP. I do some PvE with it too. I have 3/3 Imp Voidwalker.

Voidwalker sucks. Yes, I could do 5 DPS and never pull aggro, but it would take me 10 years to kill something.



There are FASTER more efficient ways to grind. Voidwalker is GARBAGE! A small taunt and that's it. You want to sit there and stay under your void's aggro ceiling? Cool.. but I'm killing 20-30 mobs while your still trying to down your first because you can't DPS for ****.



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Why would you waste a pet slot trying to have your pet tank? I can understand if you wanted to use him as CC, but even then a Succy or fear yo-yo strat is so much better. You lose too much by not having another pet out.

i am lvl 35 and i use my VW all the time i do ussually draw aggro away from him.
i send in VW then cast CoA,Cor,SL life tapx2 to get mana back to full then drain life till mob is dead. if i do draw aggro its after i ger the 2nd DL off. granted i have only soloed so i havent had to worry about other people. if i would draw more than 1 mob i just CoA,Cor,Sl,Immolate then fear and back to the other mob by the time fear wears off the mob is dead or a wand or 2 and its dead

The point being that not only is my damage LOWER than any other build I've had (esp with the voidy out), but I have 3/3 Imp Void.. not sure how your point is valid in any sense.



Hold on, your saying that the small increase to damage/healing for siphon life is what is going to pull aggro!?????

My damage output is signifigantly lower than any other cookie-cutter build

With the voidwalker out, I lose the 10% damage increase that I would have had with the succy out, which means my DPS is even lower

I have 3/3 Improved Voidwalker

Come on man.. what are you talking about???? Seriously. Your not making any sense.

Why would I roll a mage????????? What does that have to do with anything?



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Like I said in the post (you might want to read a post before you criticize it), you have to gimp your DPS to stay under your Void's aggro ceiling.



?????? Do you have any clue what your talking about? Read my post thoroughly, then think for maybe 30-45 seconds, and then reply. What does burst damage have do to with anything? When did I ever mention burst damage?



What!?!? LOL, please just stop posting. You make no sense, and completely go off topic.. for unknown reasons.

I think what he's trying to say is that you have to limit your DPS to avoid pulling aggro from your Voidwalker. Which would slow you down because, as he put it, "you can't DPS for ****". Only because the Void's taunt ability just doesn't cut it once you start collecting decent gear.

I wanted to try something new from Drain Tanking, and testing out situations where I would attempt to take on 10-15 mobs at once (don't even have SoC yet). Well, I used the Void to take aggro on a few mobs as part of my plan, and I did have 3/3 Improved Void at the time, and have him focus taunt one of them. Well, I put my 2 instant DoTs on them, Corr and CoA. I was skipping Siphon Life for the first part of my plan.

My void had gotten off 2-3 taunts already on that one mob, and my those 2 DoTs easily pulled aggro. Just think how long it would have taken me to kill that mob if I had to try to not pull aggro.

While I don't think the void is useless (he proved to be very, very useful in taking on multiple mobs) the way BuckeyesFTW made it sound, but I also see alot of people here trying to make the Void look like some really great tank.. when IMO he isn't preferable over the other benefits you would get from using other pets.

ot the orginal post. If you woudl calculate on hrs ho long i used each pet my imp has got the most play time. Lvl 60-70 i was affliction and would use him for dark pact and jsut drain tank everything. Also he is what you use in heroics and raids. Succbus woudl come in second for seduce. Now that i am 0/40/21 raid spec. I use VW for tanking when i grinding for $$$ or mats. I can not really comment on felguard. I had him once at 60 when the new talents came out, but i could not see using 41 points into demo just for him. I love ruin to much to have him. Anyway end game/toward end game your imp is your best friend.

i never had aggro problems with VW either, but then I never spammed SBs with him. I discovered SB again after level 7 or so when I got my felguard at 64 and am enjoying it ever since.