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PVP Priest Shadow Build (cookie cutter from tentonhammer?)Follow
I have not played a priest in a long time, certainly not since they started to suffer (though I haven't yet experienced that, from the priests healing me).
Doing a bit of research, I came across tentonhammer's builds. This one caught my eye (Check it out: HERE):
PVP Shadow Build - Submitted by Krystalline (Thorium Brotherhood)
Reasons I did not chose certain things in the Shadow tree: Reducing threat caused by your spells? Useless in PVP. Reduces the cooldown of your mind blast? Mind Flay is the most useful PVP spell. You are welcome to put points into this, but personally, I find that Mind Blast is not on cooldown enough to put more than two points into it. Improved Fade: You never use fade in PVP. I took Unbreakable will in Disc due to PVP reasons, obviously, and improved shield for the same reason. Inner Focus is nice to get if you want to sacrifice Misery to get to it, go ahead.
Discipline (8 points)
* 5/5 Unbreakable Will
* 3/3 Improved Power Word: Shield
Holy (0 points)
* None
Shadow (53 points)
* 5/5 Spirit Tap
* 5/5 Blackout
* 2/2 Improved Shadow Word: Pain
* 5/5 Shadow Focus
* 2/2 Improved Psychic Scream
* 1/1 Mind Flay
* 2/2 Shadow Reach
* 5/5 Shadow Weaving
* 1/1 Silence
* 1/1 Vampiric Embrace
* 2/2 Improved Vampiric Embrace
* 3/3 Focused Mind
* 5/5 Darkness
* 1/1 Shadowform
* 5/5 Shadow Power
* 5/5 Misery
* 1/1 Vampiric Touch
How closely does this resemble your ideal PVP build?
What would you change on it? Why?
It looks to me like a cookie cutter, but then I never play them.
Also, Dranei are looking like the way to go. Disagree?
Thanks!
Here are the flaws in this build:
Spirit Tap is unnecessary as mana regen shouldn't be an issue in PvP
Focused Mind is unnecessary as mana conservation shouldn't be an issue in PvP
Improved Mind Blast is absolutely necessary, especially with shadow power for good burst damage.
Inner Focus gives a free Devouring Plague, if you're dead.
Martyrdom helps marginally in PvP, moreso than the talents I dropped.
With this build you can constly crit while spamming Mind Blast and Death, which is fantastic burst damage, critical in pvp.
Ok.
I checked your build and it's a Discipline setup.
Have you got any links to a Shadow build, better than the one above?
It would just be nice to see a few people agreeing on something better than what's published.
Thanks.
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i have played with quite a few different specs and personally i found that a shadow/disc spec works best for me. my spec is currently 30/0/31. here is a link to my armoury page for anyone that would like to comment on it, if you think there are better things i can do with it i would really appricate it. http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/?#character-talents.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Rajjax personally i think this gives me both the damage for PvP and the versatility to be an OH or even a MH for most 5 mans. I have the mana to cover the runs and the im not loosing any base damage from the shadow spec.
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Well, so far as my comments on the build.
Imp Mind Blast really is great, I love having it to use as much as possible as it's by far our highest damage spell DD spell (like there are any real choices!).
Imp Inner Fire and Imp shields are really not so hot for me, normally there is some one around smart enough to dispel/purge/etc those - and theres a few wasted talent points. I only really used imp shields when I was leveling some.
5/5 Shadow weaving isn't going to get used that much, I have a few in there (still leveling some and it's nice in instances and such with a warlock) but as for pvp, if you're getting 5 applications and getting off more than one spell with all that extra damage, either you're playing a lot of solo, or your damage is pretty weak. I generally have people close by to help kill, and most of the time I'm hurting them plenty on my own to not get a ton of usage out of it.
5/5 Shadow Focus also won't go so far since you're generally only fighting with people your level if you're PvPing (48/49 in a 40-49 bracket, etc)
5/5 Spirit tap, as some one mentioned, might be excessive. I do like having a few in it though, I generally stay alive long enough to run out of mana, so it's nice, haha. With the short CD on Imp Mind blast - that also helps you a lot to score the KB which triggers it. Yet another reason to have a low CD on MB.
So that's really all I have to say!
-Monk
Imp Mind Blast really is great, I love having it to use as much as possible as it's by far our highest damage spell DD spell (like there are any real choices!).
Imp Inner Fire and Imp shields are really not so hot for me, normally there is some one around smart enough to dispel/purge/etc those - and theres a few wasted talent points. I only really used imp shields when I was leveling some.
5/5 Shadow weaving isn't going to get used that much, I have a few in there (still leveling some and it's nice in instances and such with a warlock) but as for pvp, if you're getting 5 applications and getting off more than one spell with all that extra damage, either you're playing a lot of solo, or your damage is pretty weak. I generally have people close by to help kill, and most of the time I'm hurting them plenty on my own to not get a ton of usage out of it.
5/5 Shadow Focus also won't go so far since you're generally only fighting with people your level if you're PvPing (48/49 in a 40-49 bracket, etc)
5/5 Spirit tap, as some one mentioned, might be excessive. I do like having a few in it though, I generally stay alive long enough to run out of mana, so it's nice, haha. With the short CD on Imp Mind blast - that also helps you a lot to score the KB which triggers it. Yet another reason to have a low CD on MB.
So that's really all I have to say!
-Monk
I think you need to really look at what you are trying to do. A good priest for PvP is not giong to be so purely shadow as you are or should be still assisting the group around you.
1. I would drop 3 of the points out of Shadow Focus as someone else stated most everyone is your level and place this into MB as that is your primary Nuke.
2. Many disagree with me on this, but I am not a fan of Shadow Reach... two reasons, the healing of your vampiric embrace is set at 30 yards which means you are not healing your group potentially and secondly in PvP it is too fluid for you to easily stay fluid when you have limited instant cast damage spells.
3. With the extra two points left over I recommend Martydom as it prevents you from being interupted potentially negating a silence cast or what have you. Improved Shield is great in lower BG's, but by level 70 everyone knows to dispel or purge so it is not as great as it seems.
4. Spirit Tap, if you are only running BG's then I would use these 5 points somewhere else, but if you do any instance runs or world PvP where the environment gets in the way then they are well worth it.
Truthfully, I do a mix of BG's, World PvP, and PvE so I have a build like this:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?500212003000000000000000000000000000000000550230410050123051551
What no silence you say... not worth it in most PvE and I wanted higher mana so I bypassed it. I play my toon as a damage dealer not as a fear-bot with silence. That is just me though.
1. I would drop 3 of the points out of Shadow Focus as someone else stated most everyone is your level and place this into MB as that is your primary Nuke.
2. Many disagree with me on this, but I am not a fan of Shadow Reach... two reasons, the healing of your vampiric embrace is set at 30 yards which means you are not healing your group potentially and secondly in PvP it is too fluid for you to easily stay fluid when you have limited instant cast damage spells.
3. With the extra two points left over I recommend Martydom as it prevents you from being interupted potentially negating a silence cast or what have you. Improved Shield is great in lower BG's, but by level 70 everyone knows to dispel or purge so it is not as great as it seems.
4. Spirit Tap, if you are only running BG's then I would use these 5 points somewhere else, but if you do any instance runs or world PvP where the environment gets in the way then they are well worth it.
Truthfully, I do a mix of BG's, World PvP, and PvE so I have a build like this:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?500212003000000000000000000000000000000000550230410050123051551
What no silence you say... not worth it in most PvE and I wanted higher mana so I bypassed it. I play my toon as a damage dealer not as a fear-bot with silence. That is just me though.
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