Tank roll rejections. (fury spec)Follow

That's lame they asked you that. I would have said I'm spec'd "Tank". It's none of their freaking business what specs you chose.

Do they know how long it takes to grind as a Protect warrior? Bah. Tell them to roll a holy priest and see how they like it.

-Dumb question, but you have a shield yes? Bam! instant tank.
-You have Stamina gear? str gear? maybe a bit +Def gear? Bam, good tank!
-You can keep multi mob aggro? Bam! super tank.

That's all they need to know lol.

I'm no where near your level, but the past 3 days I've been doing DM and WC. I'm Fury spec, and I tank them just fine (tho I don't have the amount of talent points as you).

I understand getting to 65ish then maybe respec'n to protect for the high end raids, where you'll get exp for your next levels... but 1-70 no thx.

Edited, May 4th 2007 12:40pm by GYFFORD

All I meant by shield was that I've seen warriors tanking w/o a shield. Yeah, it was not working out so well. It still worked since they had heavier armor then everyone else, but I imagined w/o the shield bonus in armor, they were wasting mana on heals.

Also, my little series of questions were meant to be all in one questions (Rhetorical'ish) things that tanks should have.

I still think it's lame not inviting him. I mean do they ask priests "are you Holy!" no ... cya.

Hunters are you MM? no ... cya.


Edited, May 4th 2007 1:20pm by GYFFORD

O.O This is where the noob Gyf comes out. I've yet to see a mob that can almost kill a tank with one move. Ah I can see why protect would be preferred.

Can a Fury warrior tank in that case then? Maybe with PW-shield?

You haven't played much 70 lvl instances then. There are plenty of mobs than can almost oneshot u if you're not prepared, and not only in raids and heroic, for example 'steamvaults' the boglords hit like a train, i can't imagine a fury war there.

I got both war and priest 70 well geared, and it's a pain to heal the tank in those situations.

Speaking from a dps standpoint, no fury warr can hold agro against me. It's not even close. I can use anisthetic poison on both wpns and be 20% ahead on the threat meter in a matter of seconds. Which translates into me tanking the mob for the rest of the fight or vanishing. Since I have 40% dodge I usually just tell the healer that if I get agro I'll just keep it since it's too much of a pain in the *** to vanish all the time.

I do agree that ramparts and really any instance under 65 is probably tankable by a fury warr, but they need to be treated similarly to a pally tank, ie salvation to all if you have pally in the grp. Otherwise threat management is gonna be a huge pain in the ***. Even our fury warr in kara has a hard time holding agro if dps starts going all out.

And Estrellita is completely correct, tanks get 1shotted all the time in heroics, raids and certain lvl 70 instances(like SV and arcatraz). A fury warr can offtank just fine and are really good in that role when they aren't pure dps, but as a mt, no thanks.

Edited, May 5th 2007 4:25am by mahlerite

morghast, Thanks for that! Since I've started playing WoW all I've read was "Zomg!! protect warriors grinding sucks" post. It's nice to hear someone actually doing it.

Right now I'm Furry at lv22, and dual weilding. However I miss so much that I'm considering going back to Arms, and now possibly protect.

I dunno lol the more I read, the more confused I get about what way to go. =S

you only need to be prot for heroics if you are gonna be MT...in instances like Underbog or Slave Pens there are a few pulls where off tanks make things easier...you can off tank in heroic and even in karaz with decent gear as any dps spec...whether Arms/Fury or full fury.

When I was my Arms build and ran Ramparts, I found it difficult to down the last boss too. I had a shield and 1h but it was still difficult. Try using Shield Wall, that helped a lot during that fight. Now I'm full prot and I grind away with two 1h's. The increased weapon damage for 1h in the prot tree helps. I put my tank gear on and dual wield and go to town. If I'm in a hurry I put my DPS gear on and DW. I rarely do the 2h'r any more because of the lack of Damage output which is gimped now that I'm full Prot.

I was one of those who wanted to just PvP once I hit 70, but with work and everything I didn't have the time to dedicate toward getting the right gear. Plus I couldn't find a decent enough pally to go in on an arena team with me. So..I switched servers with some of my bro's and now we're in a guild that raids 3 or 4 times a week and has room for us on the teams. Actually, they wouldn't have a second team if it wasn't for the 6 of us transfering. Anywho, Prot, Arms, Fury...take your pic. But as you become higher lvl, you should really put some points into prot to make for a more effective tank. (defiance is where you wanna stop, or you can keep goin!)

I leveled from 1-70 as an Arms warrior. I then switched to Prot and have been that ever since. When people overlooked me because I wasnt prot, I just laughed and continued to kick tail without them.

Those that say that as an Arms/Fury war you have less rage generation (with or without a shield) are mistaken. Even when using a shield, my rage generation was through the roof, I never had to worry about having enough rage for my abilities. Not always true as a Prot warrior.

Some say you have less threat generation, in certain cases yes in some cases no. But the difference is not that big of a deal. i.e. Shield slam in defensive stance will generate roughly 1100 threat but Mortal strike or Improved Overpower will compensate for that easily. Also, a Prot warrior who is disarmed is not as effective as an Arms warrior who can't be disarmed.

As a Protection warrior you will have more armor and more health. This makes things easier for healers, but being Arms/Fury spec'd does not make it impossible. At level 70, as an Arms warrior, I had 9k health and 10k AR with a shield. At level 70, as a Protection Warrior, I have roughly 12k Health and 13k AR with a shield. I have never been hit hard enough to be 1-shot as a Prot warrior and the only strikes I have ever taken that would of 1-shot me when Arm's were from Murmur's sonic boom, and High King Mulgar in Gruul's lair.

Bottom line, you are a more effective tank if you are Prot, but there is little need to be prior to the level 70 instances (Shadow labs aside).

nah man i used to be part fury i find having 31 point in it and the rest in prot wil take care of your probs. cause some people are just *** holes about that. i my self just DW tanked ony yesterday was a blast lol.

I'm thinking about rolling a warrior and I'm reading these forums. From a dps standpoint, I find alot of fury warriors who claim they can tank well, and to be blunt...they cant. I do the whole 'let them get sunders thing', run back to them when I get aggro, soul shatter, dps slower, I still pull like a madman. Some, *some* can hold aggro but I have found quite alot cannot. Of course its always my fault they claim, even if I let them sunder 3 times, give them plenty of time, etc..

Also I'm sitting at 815 shadow damage now, where before I had 525. At 525 I wouldnt pull off any warrior, so in a casual pug, with everyone in casual gear, its probably fine. But if your dps squad far outgears you, AND you're fury, its just not gonna happen. I have problems pulling off prot tanks even, I'd hate to see how much the non-demo 1000 shadow dmg warlocks pull.

requiring a prot tank before heroics is lolworthy anyway...

Seeing as I turn down most PUGs on principle(too many bad experiences) I can't say I would care if they didn't want my Fury-skills.
As a rule I don't give a damn about what some jackass in wow says. Unless they pay my account each month they don't have a word to say about what I should specc as.
To the guy/girl who said that throwing on a shield and such doesn't make you a tank: Odd, that's what I do when I am forced to tank and so far, both friend and pug alike have said I do it well.