So, me and another lock in my guild were almost locked and loaded for my dreadsteed quest, Farmed and turned in the Mats, now I had a choice to make; Pay 400 Gold for the Candle/Lodestone/Jar OR find another lock who already possesses these items and see if he/she would like to tag along on the run to Dire Maul...
I end up seeing a good prospect in Shattarah (70 Lock), PM her about it, she says "My going rate is 100 Gold", to make a long story short, I paid, she delivered, everyones happy...
But after the fact, me and this lock who ran us were in discussion about feedback on how much I paid, she mentioned that in the past when she would quote people for 100 Gold they would "sh*t a brick and get hostile on her", but IMO I saved 300 gold and the run went fast (About 45 minutes tops)...
Since she asked what would be a good price for future "Business", I reccomended that she try to lower it down to double digits (99 or less) to lessen the sticker shock of the asking price...
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*Edited for clarification
Edited, May 3rd 2007 10:16am by Zaknalfein
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You saved some money, got what you wanted.
They made some money but used their time.
I fail to see a problem. If you don't like the quoted price then either tell them no thanks or negotiate with them.
They made some money but used their time.
I fail to see a problem. If you don't like the quoted price then either tell them no thanks or negotiate with them.
In my case, I did the entire quest chain, paid for the lodestone/jar/glyphs.. the only problem for me was finding a group. So i went into a city, and started asking for a group to help with my dreadsteed quest, I got a response from a 70 shaman, saying that she had a guildy in need of the quest also.. but didnt have the money to pay for the last 3 pieces, so they got a group together, 3 70's and the other lock, and myself. we ran through DM, and both of us got what we wanted. But I dont mind helping others out, i had a a pretty easy time getting all the mats, except for the ones i had to pay for, so i tell all the locks in my guild and some that I am friends with outside the guild that when they get up to the summoning part, i have the mats already and all they need to do is get a group together and we can run it. I dont ask for money, but the ones that I have helped already always tip me at least 50g for saving them money with the summoning mats.
SkibumOnShiva wrote:
You saved some money, got what you wanted.
They made some money but used their time.
I fail to see a problem. If you don't like the quoted price then either tell them no thanks or negotiate with them.
They made some money but used their time.
I fail to see a problem. If you don't like the quoted price then either tell them no thanks or negotiate with them.
No problem mentioned, this post was created on her behalf to see what the consensus was on whats a reasonable price, if such a thing exists.
Read my OP again, you'll notice that im a happy camper.
Edited, May 3rd 2007 10:11am by Zaknalfein
Most warlocks I've heard of either do it for free or 50g. Anything less than 250g is, of course, a "good deal" as your saving money.
Funny how our outlook changes as time rolls on. When I first did the quest I got all the items, and was glad to run folks though the quest free of charge. My requirement was that they have a tank and a healer lined up. Thats all it took. Yet, TBC came out and i have all kinds of new stuff to do, and while i love DM, there is just no real value to going back any longer. My time is best spend elsewhere(farming motes or running heroics.... the list goes on) heck even a trip back to Azaroth seems out of the way. So now a days I do ask for a little more when it comes to complete strangers(I would run a freind, or even a freind of a freind though free of charge).
One thing that I find is odd, I generaly want less the lower the level of the person doing the quest. If a level 60 lock has all their ducks in a row and asks, I may only ask for 50, but if you are level 70 i would probly ask for 75. If a person was realy that broke, and was not a *** about it, i would still do it free.
Usualy i am the first guy to leap out and screm about charging folks for stuff you already payed for, but in a game where we have so meny options of how to play, doing a level 60 isntance seems old and tired(likely because i did it so meny times in the past.)
One thing that I find is odd, I generaly want less the lower the level of the person doing the quest. If a level 60 lock has all their ducks in a row and asks, I may only ask for 50, but if you are level 70 i would probly ask for 75. If a person was realy that broke, and was not a *** about it, i would still do it free.
Usualy i am the first guy to leap out and screm about charging folks for stuff you already payed for, but in a game where we have so meny options of how to play, doing a level 60 isntance seems old and tired(likely because i did it so meny times in the past.)
lol case in point I still ask people for 4-8g and/or the bop blues if they want a sm run. at that level that's what they can afford but I can easily farm 50g an hour at 68 without trying so yes my time is probabally better off elsewhere.
Capitolg wrote:
Funny how our outlook changes as time rolls on. When I first did the quest I got all the items, and was glad to run folks though the quest free of charge. My requirement was that they have a tank and a healer lined up. Thats all it took. Yet, TBC came out and i have all kinds of new stuff to do, and while i love DM, there is just no real value to going back any longer. My time is best spend elsewhere(farming motes or running heroics.... the list goes on) heck even a trip back to Azaroth seems out of the way. So now a days I do ask for a little more when it comes to complete strangers(I would run a freind, or even a freind of a freind though free of charge).
One thing that I find is odd, I generaly want less the lower the level of the person doing the quest. If a level 60 lock has all their ducks in a row and asks, I may only ask for 50, but if you are level 70 i would probly ask for 75. If a person was realy that broke, and was not a *** about it, i would still do it free.
Usualy i am the first guy to leap out and screm about charging folks for stuff you already payed for, but in a game where we have so meny options of how to play, doing a level 60 isntance seems old and tired(likely because i did it so meny times in the past.)
One thing that I find is odd, I generaly want less the lower the level of the person doing the quest. If a level 60 lock has all their ducks in a row and asks, I may only ask for 50, but if you are level 70 i would probly ask for 75. If a person was realy that broke, and was not a *** about it, i would still do it free.
Usualy i am the first guy to leap out and screm about charging folks for stuff you already payed for, but in a game where we have so meny options of how to play, doing a level 60 isntance seems old and tired(likely because i did it so meny times in the past.)
Funny, I still dont mind running locks or pallies through DM or Scholo. For free.
I find those old world instances much more interesting (tho less challenge) than Outlands ones for some reason. And I dont think my playing game time is that valuable or ingame gold that worth that I cant spare few hours and help people in need.
Because when I add it all up, game is just a game no matter what gear or gold one gets..... and players are real people with real feelings of frustration or achievement when they can or cant do something. Most of them are very young and dont really know life isnt fair and sometimes a little things may mean a lot to them.
Therefore any farming or raiding or whatever I do for my own pleasure isnt that valuable compared to some child feeling neglected and unhappy because "everyone is too busy farming in Outlands" to lend some help.
100g is pretty fair. I had a guildie help me for free, and now she quit WoW and I feel kinda bad I cant help other locks get theirs. I helped someone the other day with the scholo part, I was half laughing/half frustrated because he kept aggroing entire rooms with his felguard. I was leading the group trying to mark targets for a little coordination, and BOOM there goes the felguard, bypassing the group in front of us, to the group behind that one. Keeping me on my toes I guess :P
But really, 100g saves 300g. If I charged that (assuming I had the mats), and somebody started freaking on me, I'd say "OK fine, go pay 400 then, your choice". At this stage you wont find alot of locks with the mats, willing to run you through old world instances for free. I dont enjoy those instances myself, I especially dont like dire maul, and heading all the way back there for a 1-3 hour quest, to help somebody I dont even know, does not appeal to me. I would charge 100g, because myself, I would have been glad to find a lock offering their services for 100g when I was trying to get my quest done. I was just lucky a guildie offered free, but I was more then willing to spend 100g to save myself another 300g.
But really, 100g saves 300g. If I charged that (assuming I had the mats), and somebody started freaking on me, I'd say "OK fine, go pay 400 then, your choice". At this stage you wont find alot of locks with the mats, willing to run you through old world instances for free. I dont enjoy those instances myself, I especially dont like dire maul, and heading all the way back there for a 1-3 hour quest, to help somebody I dont even know, does not appeal to me. I would charge 100g, because myself, I would have been glad to find a lock offering their services for 100g when I was trying to get my quest done. I was just lucky a guildie offered free, but I was more then willing to spend 100g to save myself another 300g.
mikelolol wrote:
100g is pretty fair. I had a guildie help me for free, and now she quit WoW and I feel kinda bad I cant help other locks get theirs. I helped someone the other day with the scholo part, I was half laughing/half frustrated because he kept aggroing entire rooms with his felguard. I was leading the group trying to mark targets for a little coordination, and BOOM there goes the felguard, bypassing the group in front of us, to the group behind that one. Keeping me on my toes I guess :P
Sounds like someone had no clue what you were attacking really.
I did Scholo at 65 with mage friend and we didnt even come close to wipe. But I keep my felguard on passive the moment I enter any instance, with cleave off if there is chance of sheeping. Cant imagine that someone can get that high without learning how to control his pet.
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Real world analogy, a friend of mine's a cabeler. When he's got a lot of work on he'll quote three times what he would otherwise as he figure's that's better than saying no, his way of controlling the amount of work he has. Trouble is when people go ``OK''. As a contractor he considers that his overtime rate.
Time is money,some people value their time more than they value their money and some people value their money more than their time.
Time is money,some people value their time more than they value their money and some people value their money more than their time.
Saves 250g isn't it?
I paid the guy who helped me through DM 50g for his help. Id think that since you had 2 locks 100g seems fair.
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Therefore any farming or raiding or whatever I do for my own pleasure isnt that valuable compared to some child feeling neglected and unhappy because "everyone is too busy farming in Outlands" to lend some help.
so anytime any complete stranger ask you to scholo/DM for a mount you drop what ever you are doing to be the good soul?
ZOMG somebody is a bigger hippy than me. Thats awesome, Turely so.
/tips his hat
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Cant imagine that someone can get that high without learning how to control his pet.
One time i was in the Searing Gorge(playing as my hunter) and a diffrent hunter asked me "Hey how do you get the monsters to stay attacking your pet and not charge for you?"
I said "Ummmm Growl, lol"
"Whats that?"
So a few moments later I took him to the pet trainer showed him how to train his pet. So ya here was this level 60 hunter who had never taught his pet a single skill, proof positive that WoW dose not take a lot of skill to play, just to play well.
Edited, May 7th 2007 11:43am by Capitolg
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I'd say 100 g is more then fair, It's not an easy quest line (at 60) and the mats are very expensive (at 60). Anyone who complains would be told... heh do it yourself then.
I don't mind helping people out and all, but I think people appreciate the reward alot mor eif they actually have to work for it a bit.
I don't mind helping people out and all, but I think people appreciate the reward alot mor eif they actually have to work for it a bit.
I misread the OP and thought you were charged 100g for the run. But 100g for the run and the mats? That's fair. As you note, those items cost several hundred gold and the charge helps defray those costs (and make them worth the bank space they take up).
It was a real challenge to make that run at L60 (three 'locks, a tank and a priest). At L70, um, not so much. It was kinda funny, me planning out how to pick apart the groups of elementals when the "why not just kill them?" approach worked just fine.
It was a real challenge to make that run at L60 (three 'locks, a tank and a priest). At L70, um, not so much. It was kinda funny, me planning out how to pick apart the groups of elementals when the "why not just kill them?" approach worked just fine.
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