why do ppl think feral is so good?Follow

AS a 54 balance druid who has been playing for 6 months i really don't see the big deal with feral. sure ill give you higher DPS and survivalbility but if i can beat a 57 assasinaton rogue withought him even touchingm me no way a feral can beat me. and no feral to date has beta me. they have to get clise and in the seconds it takes then to shift from roots starfire lns sometimes critin for 1000+ and stun. tell me your feelings on this :+)

In that cases, all druids are crap because a warlock can usuall kill us without breaking a sweat. Every class has its strengths & weaknesses against any other class.

So posts like this are a bit silly.

For one thing, a rogue has 1/4 of the armor and significantly less hp than a feral druid, not to mention the inability to heal themselves.
Hmm, also a druid can break roots consistently by simply shifting, something a feral druid will do often.
A feral druid also has feral charge, and if that doesnt seem significant you are crazy. Not to mention bear's fenzied regen.

Oh and one more thing. Druids have natural nature resistance, the ONLY class that gets that natural resistance to your balance spells, plus the Mark of the Wild they almost certainly have activated.

So you base this on one fight with a crappy rogue?I took down a lvl 48 moonkin druid with a lvl 42 feral druid so now what ?

You cant make a judgment like that based on one crappy player. The truth is
Feral druids have alot of skills that help in a fight with a moonkin.

Bash , Charge , Shifting out of roots, not to mention getting the 1st move in cat form..

Also given the chance a balance druid has many ways to fight back or open the fight in his favor.

It realy only comes down to player skill and not alot else..

i agree Balance is a tough fight. I respect the Boomkins im even tempted to spec balance at some point just to try it.

I just wanted to point out the flaw in the OP's logic.

I'll be the first to admit that if a Boomkin gets the drop on me it should be very tough to win without resetting the fight in my favor.Somthing that is not easy to do because when i drop combat to stealth a smart one will stealth also.

Applauded =) Balance druids dont generally Root-n-Nuke anymore. With leather armor, are mitigation is just as good as bears now. Since we dont have to resort to cloth. Plus wrath is a great melee spell.



Hehe that generally happens if the OP is silly to.



Yea, that would be smart I guess. But any druid excep a resto druid is expected to have faerie fire on their opponents at all time. Which of course doesnt allow us to stealth =D its kind of sad though. Many druids have stoppped resorting to "Hit and Run" type playstyle. True its not really manditory anymore, but it makes fights so much easier.

Feral is good for their DPS and Tanking abilities, hard to cast a spell on cat don't u think, not tomention the stuns and interrupts a bear can pull off.Personally i like cat in contested areas coz of the AWESOME track humanoids, gives you an ABSOLUTE edge over those who cant stealth. I lke moonkin too, not sure whether to respec but they look so cute and their nukes HURT, so i guess it's more for DPS/Tank or NUKE EM TILL THEY DIE

I don't agree, feral druids will kill you before your 2nd starfire if not the first. I'm sure that you didnt get touched by a rogue, and im sure you rooted him the whole time? I'd guarantee that you wouldn't kill a feral druid w/o getting touched unless it was the dumbest druid alive. A kitty form druid can get to the max range of a starfire with ease, 1k crit will not one shot it or let alone bring it to even half life for most druids.

Feral is good for PvE. More so than balance for the fact that it does not need mana/time to drink as well as easier/faster kills.

Most rogues i've seen have had considerably less health than my druid not in Bear.

My advice would be to respec and try it out. Judging by how you said this it seems like you have never played a feral druid. You really can't say that balance is better if you haven't tried both.

Edited, May 1st 2007 1:21am by Redbullxxl

I laughed, but honestly... No anything should be 54 after six months. Come on, now.


I'm sorry, have you ever fought a Balance Druid post-40 that wasn't grey to you? A root, two DoT's, and our two nukes from behind plate-level armor make Rogues one of, if not the easiest, win for us. I'm not trying to knock your class, but in this specific match-up, Balance Druids have a gross advantage.

The only reason Feral Druids are more difficult than Rogues for us is because they can shift out and heal just like we can. It's actually a pretty interesting fight and usually fairly close if the Feral is a good one. If it's a bad one they're just another default win like Rogues.

To the OP: There's nothing inherently wrong with Feral Druids or great about Balance Druids. Both builds are great in their own right and have their own advantageous and disadvantageous match-ups in PvP. Ferals Druids own casters (except Moonkin) pretty easily if they can get the jump on them and fair pretty well against everything else too if they know what they're doing. Balance Druids, in nearly direct juxtaposition, own melee classes pretty hard but struggle a little more against casters who can easily match or exceed our damage output, run us OOM, and control us (since unlike typical casters, we trade control for our massive armor).

EDIT: I'm sorry, but this needs to be said... Your signature is terrible and your name is even worse. I hope you don't ever decide to change your spec or your main to another class. Boy, that'd be awkward, eh?

Edited, May 1st 2007 3:02am by Gaudion

Also something I'd like to point out:
there was someone here who said moonkin armor migitates a lot of feral's damage.
This is true for direct attacks, but feral druids (especially at 50+ when they have mangle) would be smarter to use bleed effects (pounce , rake , and at 5 CP , rip) against high armor classes like yourself, because they negate armor.

Though I must agree it's a very hard fight even if i get the jump ..
And if balance gets the jump (e.g. huge starfire , followed by instant moonfire and insect swarm) it's usually over already unless the balance druid makes stupid mistakes.

The problem is we don't have a whole lot of mana to keep shifting out of roots,
and we can't endure until the balance goes out of mana , because they usually have a pretty big mana pool , maybe some mp/5 and an innervate for lots of extra mana.

Balance druids are just like any other class, Warlocks included.

As a Feral, if I get the drop on you, yes, you will probably die.

Barkskin? Meh. Bash > Cyclone, wait.

Of course, if the reverse happens, it's much harder to pull out.

What I'm trying to say is that if I see you before you see me, chances are you aren't the one walking away from that fight. :P

Any Feral that lets you Hibernate them midfight (Minus a NS Boosted one) isn't a very good Feral. Not only that, avoiding your Hibernate gives me extra DPS via. Furor.



Rake doesn't require any points, Rip does. Barkskin is on a 2m CD. You get to use it once. Bash + Cyclone. Bash + Maim. Bash + Maim + Cyclone, all these will make your Barkskin useless.

I can't remember if Wrath or Starfire require LOS, but I believe they both do. That is the death of a Moonkin Druid vs. a Good feral who gets the drop.

No offense, but it doesn't sound like you've fought any heavily pvp experienced Ferals. A excellent tanking or DPS Druid does not mean they're good at all at PvP. PvP as a Feral is a completely different ballgame.

Because at least 90% (Statistic pulled out of my *** based on personal experience) of Feral Druids never leave Catform.