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#1 Apr 26 2007 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
I've recently been getting back to playing my shaman and one of the hardest classes for me is the shadow priest. What tactics do you recommend using(experienced players, not shammieman tyvm)

This is from the perspective of an enh shaman if that helps to formulate a battle plan
#2 Apr 26 2007 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Personally I never really had much of a problem against priest, which the strat is very similar to locks (not saying its a full prof system, since our counters aren't exactly "full prof"...but techincally it works".

When you see any priest, first move is usually Tremor totem (same goes for locks)! Keep mindful of the range you wander from where you put that totem down, cuz they WILL fear you, eventually. Unfortunetly, the totem doesn't make you "immune" to fears, it just gives a chance to cure it, and hopefully when they do fear you, for the small bit of feared running you do...hopefully it won't run you out of range of the totem to dispel it....hopefully. Either way, Tremor is the only defense we got against it, thus its still the first move you got.

Next move the priest is going to try and get you with is the Vamp. embrace(touch). This can be earthed shocked, letting this drain you and heal them is not a good thing. Granted even tho we can heal it back, this will start to turn into a endurance match...something that we sham's will always lose, so don't get caught in this trade off.

If you take away their drains and CC, that pretty much leaves them with nothing, except for their attempt to kite you away from your tremor tot (like I said, be mindful of where you are in regards to its range).

Keep in mind, when things start to get ugly for them, they fall back on their bubbles...something we got a answer for too (purge....thus I love taking down priest), which then all they got is cloth after that...and we know thats not going to last long underfire.

If your enh, its pretty easy to just melee them down, assuming you don't get feared away (hopefully the tot covers you here long enough to pound on them), one good WF proc, and that should be lights out! Striping them of their bubble, CC, and their money move...and they don't got much after that. You can use discretion shocking their heals too of course, if they try to fall back on a last ditch effort to live longer, but a good enh sham, should be geared up strong enough to make this a moot point, and drop them b4 this is even a option to them.

Elem sham's have a little more flexibility, in the sense that since they rely on range attacks, that means they don't need to stray far from the tremor tot. Just shock, bolt, purge. Hard part is if they try to run out of range of our shocks to heal up, which could run us out of range of our tot...but thats a gamble your going to have to take. Trick is that sham's have the tools to bring a ton of dmg on its target fast (in either elem or enh)...assuming you got the gear to support it...and your going to need it!

They more than likely will dot you up, granted shadow priest dots aren't as bad as Lock dots, and the confrontation "should" be shorter than the dots duration...or at least thats your goal. If not, this is where NS+HW comes into play. Be warned if it comes down to the "healing" game...thats another form of endurance match...once again..we lose thoughs. Especially if they are stuck in shadow form, their "heal" is that vamp move, thus that needs to be shut down fast. Hopefully, u'll beat them fast enough that their dots don't make things critical for you, which u'll have the freedom to cure/eat out of them, when they are dead.

Things that make this none full proof, is usually the "fear" factor. Yes, they "can" fear you out of range of your protection, and even if ur in its field...doesn't mean that your fearless. Further more, they "might" know that your earth shock has a pretty short range, so they "might" try to kite you away from your tot, knowing this (especialy if they know its what helped you the first time they made the attempt to fear you). At which case you can either case after them, to get in range to shut them up...course thats the gamble that they might try to fear you instead of heal. Watch to see which form they stay in...it could just be a fake to a fear and vamp.
#3 Apr 28 2007 at 4:42 AM Rating: Decent
I tend to all out rape preists. I just drop a tremor and dps the crap out of them with.
#4 Apr 28 2007 at 6:09 AM Rating: Decent
tremor/searing/grounding/mana spring


shock his cast and depending on your spec idk. I play restro and shadow preist = easymode for me however i had problems in my elemental buid. Enhance build i destroyed them. I cant tell you a strat other than drop those totems and out last them.
#5 May 01 2007 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
purge!!!
#6 May 01 2007 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
As Enhancement Shammy, I zerg Priests and most squishies. They are the easiest class to bring down. Run towards them Tremor/purge/SS, usually earthshock after since they try to caste. Basic charge in and DPS the crap out of them. Grounding tots are helpful too. You can use damage to blast through their bubbles, if can't purge.

Gotta love a Enh. Shammy with +Crit gear, that can do 3-6k damage in less then 5 seconds. Orc love burst damage! ^^

We orc like to play with our prey.... But after they'r dead.

"Fifteen birds in five firetrees,
Their feathers were fanned in a fiery breeze!
But, funny little birds, they had no wings!
O what shall we do with the funny little things?"



#7 May 01 2007 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
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As an Enhancement Shaman, I say drop Grounding Totem to absorb debuffs every now and then, watch for the Mana Burn too, I have known a lot of Shadow Priests that love to burn the mana right out fo you.

Keep Tremor totem down, and if you are kited ot of range, drop a new one. Make sure you are ALWAYS close to it. If you get feared, and you are not close to it, say goodbye.

Remember, fighting a Priest is about keeping your aman up. Purge any shields they throw up, might not hurt to Purge any other buffs they may have. Since Priests can heal, this fight is all about balancing DPS with survival.

If you find yourself low on mana, pop any +AP or +Str trinkets and use Shamanistic Rage to get your mana back up. Keep trying to make them heal themselves, try to make them use all the mana they have, while keeping yours up at the same time.

Keeping the shield down will make sure that they feel the full force of your blows. Trust me, clothies are easy to kill once they go through their bags of tricks.
#8 May 03 2007 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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oh god, Mana burn just gets worse and worse with each skill up. Losing 700-800 mana and half that to hp can make bars shrink fast : c not to mention the shadow damage (assuming your Vampiric touched/embraced) done with the burn heals them a nice instant chunk. It's a discipline talent to :S and for two talent points it can be a 2 seconds cast o0

purge is great! get rid of a half a dozen buffs is great because of the massive cost of rebuffing and the fact that sometimes they wont even notice there gone! Inner fire can add 1500 plus armor, touch/hex of weakness can slow down you damage a tad (mostly because it also procs blackout/shadow weaving. Which is bad!) Devine spirt and Fort are always great to get rid off too.

PS: - Ghostwolf is magic, thus can be dispelled X_X bad memories of being ganked at 'low' levels
-careful there silence is longer and stops ALL spells
-be friend a shadow priest and have some friendly duels ^^
-lastly don't panic!

I play a priest when im serious but Shammy when I want to play around and have some fun x3
#9 May 03 2007 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
at 64 i got ganked by a 65 shadow priest.. first one she got jump on me second i attacked her and 3rd i attacked her, Purge didnt work on her bubble and ever earthshock was absorbed by her bubble after i spammed purge.. 3 times i got stomped with doing little damage to her.

Anyone able to explain that?
#10 May 03 2007 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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-ponders- maybe they had Silent reslove? umm bad luck on your part? I cant really think of anything else. if you remember her name you can armory it and we can investage further XD
#11 May 05 2007 at 9:14 PM Rating: Decent
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SukaMiWang wrote:
at 64 i got ganked by a 65 shadow priest.. first one she got jump on me second i attacked her and 3rd i attacked her, Purge didnt work on her bubble and ever earthshock was absorbed by her bubble after i spammed purge.. 3 times i got stomped with doing little damage to her.

Anyone able to explain that?


Purge can be resisted, but that many times is unrealistic, are you sure you aren't exaggerating?
#12 May 10 2007 at 2:53 AM Rating: Decent
I once faced a priest that has some marco that kills totem, I think, then I got feared at mflay'ed speed then died.
#13 May 10 2007 at 7:58 AM Rating: Decent
oh trust me im not exagerating. I blasted the bish atleast 5 times. never did a thing. They sat and laughed at me
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