First off anyone who talks trash about a enhanc. shaman has never leveled one. second im in top 3 slots EVERY BG in damage and HK's ive run instances with ele shamans that were 3 levels higher than me... and finished it 15-30 min faster than they did killing all the mobs as they did, point is i can crit at 49 over 1500 dmg dual weild with enchants and such... ppl who say a level 70 war would be more fun than a shaman is ludicrous.. many guild shamans my level that have seen the power of enchancement windfury and dual weild not to mention earth shock.. thats about a
1k-3k damage burst IF adds kick in along with enchants all im saying is if you dont have the gold to pimp an enhancement shaman then dont. if so you will truly see the squishys fold beneath ur maces and have no idea what hit them. alliance is my fave and
the only reason i still play this game is because of my BC shaman they are fun powerful and really have a lot of benefits problem with alliance is they sucked at pally and made them a healer now that we have shaman alliance wants to suck at that and call them a healer... dont let partys tell your enhancement shaman they are healers just kill the rogues and everyone else in party for that matter to let them truly understand what DPs is.
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dude lvl to 70 and them shame on yuorself that for saying that shamans are overpowered,as a not-shaman i think they could use some love from blizz, but they arent that bad
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ill do that and you will see what real power is in a video game of course
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ill do that and you will see what real power is in a video game of course.
Yo i have been an enhancement shaman for like 2 years dude, they suck lol, thats why my *** is elemental, cause enhancement loses its power at 70 dude. As an Elemental shaman i put DW shaman to shame in dps, with epic weapons. Dude its so bad when my friends Stormstrike guess what, he has to cast flame shock cause that dmg buff is better spent on me, so if you dont mind bein your boys gimp end game, sweet.
Normaly i Don't like to sound like an *** bro, but you can come on here runnin your mouth about how freakin awesome you are and your not even 70, you don't know how it goes, often it takes alot of "End Game" work to be excepted as a DPS shaman, and i have busted my *** to gear myself properly to furfil what i want as a shaman. Now i am sure you can get yourself into a decent guild that will let you DPS.
Again don't come on here talkin about how everyone in here is stupid or whatever cause your enh and you stomp face blah blah, Enh is a great spec to lvl, grind, solo, and farm. I hope you have fun on your way to 70 lvling a shaman is a fun experience. But don't get mad because every shaman is disapointed with enh end game.
Normaly i Don't like to sound like an *** bro, but you can come on here runnin your mouth about how freakin awesome you are and your not even 70, you don't know how it goes, often it takes alot of "End Game" work to be excepted as a DPS shaman, and i have busted my *** to gear myself properly to furfil what i want as a shaman. Now i am sure you can get yourself into a decent guild that will let you DPS.
Again don't come on here talkin about how everyone in here is stupid or whatever cause your enh and you stomp face blah blah, Enh is a great spec to lvl, grind, solo, and farm. I hope you have fun on your way to 70 lvling a shaman is a fun experience. But don't get mad because every shaman is disapointed with enh end game.
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Dude its so bad when my friends Stormstrike guess what, he has to cast flame shock cause that dmg buff is better spent on me
NO, REALLY? /rolls eyes
Of course you can make better use of it...you just found a synergy. With all the bonuses to lightening damage and shock damage that you can get as an elemental, I would do the SS just for the elem shaman to follow up. I don't think that has anything to do with Enh sucking. I am not saying that they don't suck, but what you said makes the Enh shaman a support player...oh yeah, that is what we are. True, I don't have a 70 shaman yet...only 46...but I have been looking at how things are and I know we are more of a support jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none class. I do congradulate your Enh Shaman friend for realizing that he can cast something to Enhance your damage output.
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"HAY GUISE. OK. HERES THE DEAL. I AM A LEVEL 49 DRAYNEYE SHAMEN AND I AM ENCHANTMENT SPECCED. BASICALY, I AM BETTER THAN YOU AND ANYTHING THAT CROSSES MY PATH. I HAVE THE ULTIMATE POWER IN A VIDEO GAME AND ILL BE DAMNED IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION. I CAN SPEND HUNDREDS OF GOLD ON MY LEVEL 49 AND MAKE HIM CRIT FOR A TRUCKLOAD ON UNDERGEARED CLOTHIES! LISTEN GUYS. JUST STOP POSTING BECAUSE I AM RIGHT ABOUT THIS AND THATS ENOUGH.
ENCHANTMENT FOR LIFE! DUAL WELD PWNS FACE AND THATS ALL THAT MATTERS IN MY LIFE!"
"HAY GUISE. OK. HERES THE DEAL. I AM A LEVEL 49 DRAYNEYE SHAMEN AND I AM ENCHANTMENT SPECCED. BASICALY, I AM BETTER THAN YOU AND ANYTHING THAT CROSSES MY PATH. I HAVE THE ULTIMATE POWER IN A VIDEO GAME AND ILL BE DAMNED IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION. I CAN SPEND HUNDREDS OF GOLD ON MY LEVEL 49 AND MAKE HIM CRIT FOR A TRUCKLOAD ON UNDERGEARED CLOTHIES! LISTEN GUYS. JUST STOP POSTING BECAUSE I AM RIGHT ABOUT THIS AND THATS ENOUGH.
ENCHANTMENT FOR LIFE! DUAL WELD PWNS FACE AND THATS ALL THAT MATTERS IN MY LIFE!"
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The funny thing is that the OP is talking about Shamans right when they are in their prime. 40 - 49 is considered the sweet spot, especially for enhancement spec shamans. I remember feeling the EXACT same way when I hit the BG's in this level range and as I got closer to 60 wondering where that magic went. It only gets worse for enhancement spec shamans as they get to the late 60's and eventually 70. True I can put out some sick PVE dps, but I'm outdone by other classes that also bring more to the table. Not having any form of CC is a huge problem that makes us easily replaceable.
Elemental or Resto seems to be the way to go. I've been eyeing Elemental but luckily I'm in a cool guild that isn't pressuring me either way. Enhancement is a great build for leveling, but something just seems to be missing once you hit outlands and then 70.
Elemental or Resto seems to be the way to go. I've been eyeing Elemental but luckily I'm in a cool guild that isn't pressuring me either way. Enhancement is a great build for leveling, but something just seems to be missing once you hit outlands and then 70.
About 25 levels or so ago I went through the ultimate pug nightmare in Scarlet crusade [getting hte main boss]. Everything happened, a hunters pet attracted a huge mob when he jumped down from the fountain and it for some reason ran down the steps [shouldnt it follow?] we have 4 terrible replacements for a nice priest [who kept afk'ing in a fight and then had to leave] we got wiped 7 times. It took a total of six hours with long waits between players leaving and coming pand needing to be summoned]. Fortunately we had a hunter [same guy whose pet attracted] with enormous patience, me and a mage [whose become a close buddy of mine since then], all who played quite well.
We had warriors who wouldnt collect agro or tank [even though they did say they had the trees for it], we had resto druids who feral'ed, we had retri pala's acting like preists and another hunter who refused to use anything but a +healing staff he had and kept heading for the dude at the alter [instead of killing the mobs around; who you should know all agro if we attack him].
anyway the point is, in the end we get a warrior and a shaman. And we kill all the dudes around. And then go for him. Iam getting him bigtime, everyone is. Then the REAL boss comes out [non of us 3 knew that the real boss comes out once her fellows dead; i'd forgoten to check up on what all scarlet crusade has] and in our shocked state, she has time to rez the fool back.
I realise we're in for another wipe, and blow all my cooldowns, iam getting hit bad and my add on is showing everyone else is as well.
But amazingly at the end we're all alive and i realise no one had gone below half life.
My damage counter showed that the shaman not only healed us a huge amount [is there a healing totem?] and did nice damage too.
It woulda been a clear wipe. The dude was VERY skilled and VERY experienced. I found he's been around since WoW launched.
We had warriors who wouldnt collect agro or tank [even though they did say they had the trees for it], we had resto druids who feral'ed, we had retri pala's acting like preists and another hunter who refused to use anything but a +healing staff he had and kept heading for the dude at the alter [instead of killing the mobs around; who you should know all agro if we attack him].
anyway the point is, in the end we get a warrior and a shaman. And we kill all the dudes around. And then go for him. Iam getting him bigtime, everyone is. Then the REAL boss comes out [non of us 3 knew that the real boss comes out once her fellows dead; i'd forgoten to check up on what all scarlet crusade has] and in our shocked state, she has time to rez the fool back.
I realise we're in for another wipe, and blow all my cooldowns, iam getting hit bad and my add on is showing everyone else is as well.
But amazingly at the end we're all alive and i realise no one had gone below half life.
My damage counter showed that the shaman not only healed us a huge amount [is there a healing totem?] and did nice damage too.
It woulda been a clear wipe. The dude was VERY skilled and VERY experienced. I found he's been around since WoW launched.
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a hunters pet attracted a huge mob when he jumped down from the fountain and it for some reason ran down the steps [shouldnt it follow?]
Hunters pets do not follow down jumps. A good hunter will dismiss pet before doing a jump down from any ledge.
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And we kill all the dudes around. And then go for him. Iam getting him bigtime, everyone is. Then the REAL boss comes out [non of us 3 knew that the real boss comes out once her fellows dead; i'd forgoten to check up on what all scarlet crusade has] and in our shocked state, she has time to rez the fool back.
Just FYI this always happens, I have only been in one party that managed to kill her before she rezzed him and that party had 2 70's (guild run).
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Just FYI this always happens, I have only been in one party that managed to kill her before she rezzed him and that party had 2 70's (guild run).
Yep, thats possible but darn tricky. You got to pour the DPS on her. Not recommended though cause if she doesnt rez him he remains unlootable.
Yep, thats possible but darn tricky. You got to pour the DPS on her. Not recommended though cause if she doesnt rez him he remains unlootable.
Well, as for the OP, I am an enhancment shammy at 70 and I like it. My guild likes it too. I am 100% geared for dishing out as much dmg as freakin possible, and can usually out dmg anyone but the mages in an instance. On the off side, which my guild completely knows, I can't take a beating worth a damn. 2 shots = I die. But fortunalty we have a very good tank in our guild. I just give him a few seconds to get good aggro, then run in and unload. It works very nicely, but is so situational I still would not recommend ench @ 70. Just giving 1 situation where it does work. Not too mention it is awsome in BG's vs. squishies, since they can damn near 1 shot most **** anyways. The survivability does not matter as much, as the sheer fact of taking as many as you can down before you go down.
Enh is a great and fun spec, and can work but ask anyone and generaly they will prefer Resto or Elemental. If Enh ever gets a decent buff tho i may go back to it I still have all my enh gear too. One thing I love about enh tho is it is such a great solo player, being able to dps when tapped out of mana or when under fire aint too shabby either. Basicly its a good spec but that doesnt make it the best spec. Some ppl dont like to here it but Enh is our grinding spec, every class has a grinding spec. Priest like shadow, pallys like ret, druids like feral, warriors like arms, warlocks like demon. Its just how this game works, its not to say you cant spec how you want to but each spec are better for different things.
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hmm, personally i don't hate enhancement.. i think its pretty sweet.
for groups, i do spit out tons of damage and usually pull off lots of aggro. But as for PvP not too sure. Its been tough for me to PvP usually because more than one attacker on you and your almost screwed.
I am trying to build up all my gear and figuring out what i really want to do, i like your build a lot jmfmb, i might use it. Ive seen that build on one of the 2v2 teams ive faced, owned us hardcore lol.
But yea, enhancement really is a great leveling spec.
for groups, i do spit out tons of damage and usually pull off lots of aggro. But as for PvP not too sure. Its been tough for me to PvP usually because more than one attacker on you and your almost screwed.
I am trying to build up all my gear and figuring out what i really want to do, i like your build a lot jmfmb, i might use it. Ive seen that build on one of the 2v2 teams ive faced, owned us hardcore lol.
But yea, enhancement really is a great leveling spec.
Every single 5-man group I've been in where an Enhancement Shaman was present, the Shaman ruled supreme on the DPS meter.
They pull hate like you wouldn't believe it, but they still lay the smack down on the mobs.
As a cloth class I'm just glad they're getting nerfixed with the Windfury stuff. Watching a dual-wielding Shaman chain-proc Windfury and drain 7,500 health in less than 10 seconds was kind of depressing.
They pull hate like you wouldn't believe it, but they still lay the smack down on the mobs.
As a cloth class I'm just glad they're getting nerfixed with the Windfury stuff. Watching a dual-wielding Shaman chain-proc Windfury and drain 7,500 health in less than 10 seconds was kind of depressing.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
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mmm, i didn't really think shamans were that overpowered. Stunlocked/kiting = owned. Hard to really get up in your face, but when you do, its gg..
Thats why i love being ele ppl spend so much time trying to keep their distance from me little do they know i am not trying to get in their face i just wanna give them some Chain Lightning =P
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Yo i have been an enhancement shaman for like 2 years dude, they suck lol, thats why my *** is elemental, cause enhancement loses its power at 70 dude. Dude its so bad when my friends Stormstrike guess what, he has to cast flame shock cause that dmg buff is better spent on me, so if you dont mind bein your boys gimp end game, sweet.
Normaly i Don't like to sound like an *** bro, but you can come on here runnin your mouth about how freakin awesome you are and your not even 70, you don't know how it goes, often it takes alot of "End Game" work to be excepted as a DPS shaman, and i have busted my *** to gear myself properly to furfil what i want as a shaman. Now i am sure you can get yourself into a decent guild that will let you DPS.
Normaly i Don't like to sound like an *** bro, but you can come on here runnin your mouth about how freakin awesome you are and your not even 70, you don't know how it goes, often it takes alot of "End Game" work to be excepted as a DPS shaman, and i have busted my *** to gear myself properly to furfil what i want as a shaman. Now i am sure you can get yourself into a decent guild that will let you DPS.
Hilarious to read, are you related to Eminem or something?
Anyway.
I don't see why an enhancement shaman couldn't be an enhancement shaman at lvl 70. I enjoy melee and being able to shock from a distance, it's great in PVP. But there is no way in hell i will transform my char into another boring caster because "that's how i must do it". The point of a game is to have fun right?
So you can write what you want, everyone is free to play the way he choses. And if your guild doesn't let you play the way you want i suggest you change guild.... lol...
Dread Lord SunSoarer wrote:
[i'd forgoten to check up on what all scarlet crusade has] and in our shocked state, she has time to rez the fool back.
Just FYI this always happens, I have only been in one party that managed to kill her before she rezzed him and that party had 2 70's (guild run).[/quote]
her rezzing the guy is part of the quest, if you don't let her rez him the quest locks up and the guy is unlootable.
and no, you don't need 70's to do this. i was the highest level (54ish warrior at the time) with a 50ish demo lock, low 40 BM hunter and mid 30 frost mage. when she came out, i popped recklessness and crit her til she slept me, and then the lock got all uber DPS and killed her before she could rez.
i am a level 70 shaman, i have been elemental, then resto, and now enhancement, lets put resto for one side (because lets face it its not a dps spec) as elemental i had a shield, probably better dps, better healing and easier aggro control(easier to stop spamming lightning thatn auto attack + tank notices when mobs run accross the room instead of a subtle turn) sooo.. TBH im not sure what enhancement DOES offer apart from 'burst damage' which is good for PVP (for squishy mages/priests/locks) but when you charge up to a warrior and unleash hell and they end up with still 60-75% of thier HP its a real 'oh ####' moment
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Ive always thought every single tree was a viable endgame build, like fury and arms for warriors, shadow and disciplin for priests etc..
I find it very hard to believe that shamans melee tree is the only one that doesent work endgame..
I find it very hard to believe that shamans melee tree is the only one that doesent work endgame..
ya i came off hard on the guy because he was being a jackass in several forums, i have no prob with enh. It is good dps but it offers little more then that saddly. good job pullin out a post from 3 weeks ago to talk sh*t, i should have my cousin Marshal Mathers go by your house and and bust some caps (I think thats what they say now) =P
Edited, May 30th 2007 1:45pm by jmfmb
Edited, May 30th 2007 1:45pm by jmfmb
you are all obviously noobs and need to l2p wow.go roll rouge and u see what i r mean.they are absote best clas and u kan pwn with them best.ikill lvl 28 maeg in 1 hit lol.justbecause i am rouge.l2p pls
I understand now lolnub you have opened my eye i am gonna vendor all my gear now and start playingmy lvl 14 rogue =P
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