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#7702 Oct 16 2014 at 1:28 AM Rating: Good
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I'd bet it's the number of rows as opposed to the actual content. I doubt they're loading the entire content as you only load so many posts at once.


From what Kao said before, each post creates a new row. So you're right, it's definitely by number of posts; the actual content has no bearing on it. I don't really understand why the number of rows actually is affecting it, though. I'd imagine there's a lot going on under the hood that I and other users are not aware of, but from just what Kao said I don't really see why the database couldn't support one thread with [however many rows could fit in the database's disk] posts in it. Like, I don't see why the database couldn't take just a single monolithic thread with all posts in it, as opposed to many smaller threads.

I mean, everything is indexed, as far as I can tell. That's O(1) time to access it, no matter where you are accessing it from. Theoretically.

The only issue I can see arising is if the database actually does load the entire thread when you enter it (or worse, loads all the threads on the first page or whatever when you enter the forum).

That said, I'm in the middle of my databases class right now, so my knowledge of databases is far from perfect.


middle of db class indeed database stuff is fun

this means they are likely storing posts as some sort of blob, makes it easier with mixed content, you know a variety of hosted pics, links, rambling text, quotes, etc

so the blob stores everything as binary then the, php(?), forum engine rips out what ever was stored and parses it back into stuff people can read. im guessing that the forum engine does most of that work as writing a parser is non-trivial

my guess is that when the number of rows of stuff that comes out of the db for a given thread breaks a certain threshold memory becomes an issues. like the server starts to get cranky serving that thread as it is huge, row wise not content necessarily.

as even if the amount of stuff in a row is small it still has to run through the same parser.

just my guess


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#7704 Oct 16 2014 at 9:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Horsemouth wrote:
this means they are likely storing posts as some sort of blob, makes it easier with mixed content, you know a variety of hosted pics, links, rambling text, quotes, etc
I like blobs, they make me happy.
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#7705 Oct 16 2014 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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A Meat Popsicle and his Protein Blob.
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#7706 Oct 16 2014 at 12:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's a children's story in there somewhere. Granted it's probably not one you'd want your kids to read, but still...
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#7707 Oct 16 2014 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
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Sounds like damn ****** **** to me.
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Sounds like **** ****** **** to me.


i agree with you?
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Anyone with math skills able to explain angle bisector theorem to me like I'm a retarded child?
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#7710 Oct 17 2014 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
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No.
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#7711 Oct 17 2014 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
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This is right up my alley.

Thanks, *********
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#7712 Oct 17 2014 at 10:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I remember those problems, always harder than they needed to be. You have to figure out one number, to be able to figure out the next number, to be able to figure out the next number, to be able to solve the problem.

But our princess is in another castle...
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#7713 Oct 17 2014 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
So I've been averaging about four hours of sleep a night these days. I'm not lolgaxe, so that's actually something I can't operate well on.

To compensate, I've drank more cruddy coffee so far this semester than I have in the past two years.

Add on that I haven't had time to cook, so I've gone from regular home cooked meals to fast food whenever I have a spare five minutes, and I can see why so many CS majors end up collapsing in the lab.

Edited, Oct 17th 2014 1:47pm by IDrownFish
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IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
So I've been averaging about four hours of sleep a night these days. I'm not lolgaxe, so that's actually something I can't operate well on.

To compensate, I've drank more cruddy coffee so far this semester than I have in the past two years.

Add on that I haven't had time to cook, so I've gone from regular home cooked meals to fast food whenever I have a spare five minutes, and I can see why so many CS majors end up collapsing in the lab.


more coffee will prevent collapse
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#7715 Oct 17 2014 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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I've gotten into Irish Coffee Java Monster energy drink over the last couple of weeks.
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#7716 Oct 17 2014 at 12:15 PM Rating: Good
That sounds horrifying.
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A world better than the engine degreaser that passes for coffee in my office.
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#7718 Oct 17 2014 at 12:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm very happy, over the last couple years we've steadily improved the coffee in my office to the point where we now have a proper bur grinder and grind all fresh beans.
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This is especially nice, as while we have a big coffee maker, you can also grind less beans and make coffee a cup at a time if you want.
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#7720 Oct 17 2014 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
That sounds delicious.

Overheard in the lab right now: "Oh, I guess I haven't eaten since breakfast yesterday. I should do that." Haha what is this place

Edited, Oct 17th 2014 3:08pm by IDrownFish
#7721 Oct 17 2014 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good
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IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
That sounds delicious.

Overheard in the lab right now: "Oh, I guess I haven't eaten since breakfast yesterday. I should do that." Haha what is this place

Edited, Oct 17th 2014 3:08pm by IDrownFish


liquid diet was a staple during my college years

coffee -> water -> beer repeat
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#7722 Oct 17 2014 at 2:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://imgur.com/a/ws6UI
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#7723 Oct 17 2014 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
Pizza is difficult to do really well, but goddamn hard to ***** up to the point where it's bad. Thus, it is the perfect college food.
#7724 Oct 18 2014 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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Not sure where to park this, so I'll just park it here:

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#7725 Oct 18 2014 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
It's like a two hour long youtube poop

it is perfect

Edited, Oct 18th 2014 8:12pm by IDrownFish
#7726 Oct 18 2014 at 6:42 PM Rating: Good
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In case people don't know what the **** is going on in the above video: It's a "remake" of the original movie done in 15-second segments uploaded by different people (amateurs and fans mostly). That's why the style and quality is... well, all over the place. Not sure why, but it was some kind of project. Bored people are bored, etc.

Oh, man, rule 63... why did I not know of this rule until now?

http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/7f/15/7f15ae_527214.jpg

Edited, Oct 19th 2014 3:33am by Mazra
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