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#177 Oct 02 2011 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
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Damnit you guys... just went and bought myself a copy of Dragon Age Origins and 2.

To be fair I got both for £23, so no complaints

Edited, Oct 1st 2011 12:54am by MagingMartin


O.o;; Who are YOU?

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Mostly a lurker, but I spent a phase trying to post moar in the OoT, and I post every now and then in various FFXI forums and other miscellaneous forums.
#178 Oct 02 2011 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
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Damnit you guys... just went and bought myself a copy of Dragon Age Origins and 2.

To be fair I got both for £23, so no complaints

Edited, Oct 1st 2011 12:54am by MagingMartin


O.o;; Who are YOU?

Edited, Sep 30th 2011 9:28pm by idiggory


Mostly a lurker, but I spent a phase trying to post moar in the OoT, and I post every now and then in various FFXI forums and other miscellaneous forums.


Well, +1 more.
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#179 Oct 02 2011 at 5:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lelianna's Song was pretty good although I had a bit of trouble connecting her actions there to the seemingly naive girl we took from the Chantry. I know she found religion but I didn't think she ate paint chips.

Playing Awakening now and feeling sort of detached from it (just started) on the basis of Oghrim and Allister treating me like I'm collecting ticket stubs at the theater. "Oh, hi... you..."

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#180 Oct 02 2011 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
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now i wanna go back and pick all the smartass 'stop wasting my time' options and see how far i can get :)
That route is much, much more amusing in DA2. Also, just going by your post, it sounds like you'll enjoy DA2 more than DA:O as it's more action oriented than story/dialog. The two are barely related, so you can play one without ever touching the other, but I'm guessing both will play a big role in DA3.

interesting. after playing the first hour of planescape, baldur's gate 2, and neverwinter nights i'm thinking maybe i didn't approach da0 or mass effect in the right frame of mind.
#181 Oct 03 2011 at 4:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Beat the game last night (again) on my female noble human rogue. The last fight was really easy, even on hard; managed to keep up a steady stream of ranged damage on the archdemon, so I hardly had to deal with the adds at all. Then again, I did go in with two mages (hardly used Morrigan at all until the final battle zone; but having two mages makes "hard" rather "easy"). I think I also got the best ending: Pretty much everyone ended up doing well, except the dwarf who wanted to open a chantry; he got himself killed in some unrest, and the Chantry thought about an Exalted March against the dwarves in response. But Alistair and Anora ended up married and Alistair surprisingly became a good king. Yay!

Started Awakening; so far I'm liking it, but it feels a bit rushed... and some of the humor and new characters are a bit forced. also I dislike that Oghren went from a gruff, brash, but steadfast dwarf to what appears to be comic relief. It's a fine line but I thought Origins played it well; Awakening, not so much. Also, while the Alistair cameo was nice, it was also disappointing that I don't get him back on my side Smiley: mad

Edit: And I have NO idea what to do for Awakening talent builds!

Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 6:30am by LockeColeMA
#182 Oct 03 2011 at 7:17 AM Rating: Good
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But Alistair and Anora ended up married and Alistair surprisingly became a good king. Yay!


Smiley: glare

I hate that b*tch.
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#183 Oct 03 2011 at 7:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
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But Alistair and Anora ended up married and Alistair surprisingly became a good king. Yay!


Smiley: glare

I hate that b*tch.

Smiley: lol

I felt the same way the first time I played through; when I was caught by the guards while escaping, I said I was helping to save the princess and then she completely flipped sides and claimed I was kidnapping her. WTF!? Didn't realize until this play through that the only way she could keep her credibility (and her life) was by playing mum until the Landsmeet; she didn't betray me then so much as look out for herself first. This time I just chose to attack instead of defending my actions, and Anora pwned her father at the Landsmeet. Totally worth it.

I still wish there was some option to execute her though Smiley: nod
#184 Oct 03 2011 at 7:44 AM Rating: Good
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Beat the game last night (again) on my female noble human rogue. The last fight was really easy, even on hard; managed to keep up a steady stream of ranged damage on the archdemon, so I hardly had to deal with the adds at all. Then again, I did go in with two mages (hardly used Morrigan at all until the final battle zone; but having two mages makes "hard" rather "easy"). I think I also got the best ending: Pretty much everyone ended up doing well, except the dwarf who wanted to open a chantry; he got himself killed in some unrest, and the Chantry thought about an Exalted March against the dwarves in response. But Alistair and Anora ended up married and Alistair surprisingly became a good king. Yay!

Started Awakening; so far I'm liking it, but it feels a bit rushed... and some of the humor and new characters are a bit forced. also I dislike that Oghren went from a gruff, brash, but steadfast dwarf to what appears to be comic relief. It's a fine line but I thought Origins played it well; Awakening, not so much. Also, while the Alistair cameo was nice, it was also disappointing that I don't get him back on my side Smiley: mad

Edit: And I have NO idea what to do for Awakening talent builds!

Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 6:30am by LockeColeMA


Whichever talents trees you started in Origins -- finish them. Also, if you give your mage(s) Arcane Warrior and Battlemage and equip them with pretty nifty armor, they live a LOT longer.


Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 9:44am by Ravashack
#185 Oct 03 2011 at 8:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm just amused at how easy it is to get Alistair to bang/marry various women with about twenty seconds of conversation.

"Go marry her!" "Do I have to?" "Yeah, you should." "Well... okay."
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#186 Oct 03 2011 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
Ravashack wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Beat the game last night (again) on my female noble human rogue. The last fight was really easy, even on hard; managed to keep up a steady stream of ranged damage on the archdemon, so I hardly had to deal with the adds at all. Then again, I did go in with two mages (hardly used Morrigan at all until the final battle zone; but having two mages makes "hard" rather "easy"). I think I also got the best ending: Pretty much everyone ended up doing well, except the dwarf who wanted to open a chantry; he got himself killed in some unrest, and the Chantry thought about an Exalted March against the dwarves in response. But Alistair and Anora ended up married and Alistair surprisingly became a good king. Yay!

Started Awakening; so far I'm liking it, but it feels a bit rushed... and some of the humor and new characters are a bit forced. also I dislike that Oghren went from a gruff, brash, but steadfast dwarf to what appears to be comic relief. It's a fine line but I thought Origins played it well; Awakening, not so much. Also, while the Alistair cameo was nice, it was also disappointing that I don't get him back on my side Smiley: mad

Edit: And I have NO idea what to do for Awakening talent builds!

Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 6:30am by LockeColeMA


Whichever talents trees you started in Origins -- finish them. Also, if you give your mage(s) Arcane Warrior and Battlemage and equip them with pretty nifty armor, they live a LOT longer.


Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 9:44am by Ravashack


I personally did Battle mage, arcane warrior, and spirit healer for my main. If you are maining a mage I HIGHLY recommend going down the basic mage class first.(I believe that's where the spell that resets the timer for every other spell or ability you have is) So long as you have enough potion you can power zerg through just about anything with that. Also I found the keeper class very useless.

Never playing the other classes as a main I never really got to understand them intimately to give good recommendations for that.
#187 Oct 03 2011 at 8:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ravashack wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Beat the game last night (again) on my female noble human rogue. The last fight was really easy, even on hard; managed to keep up a steady stream of ranged damage on the archdemon, so I hardly had to deal with the adds at all. Then again, I did go in with two mages (hardly used Morrigan at all until the final battle zone; but having two mages makes "hard" rather "easy"). I think I also got the best ending: Pretty much everyone ended up doing well, except the dwarf who wanted to open a chantry; he got himself killed in some unrest, and the Chantry thought about an Exalted March against the dwarves in response. But Alistair and Anora ended up married and Alistair surprisingly became a good king. Yay!

Started Awakening; so far I'm liking it, but it feels a bit rushed... and some of the humor and new characters are a bit forced. also I dislike that Oghren went from a gruff, brash, but steadfast dwarf to what appears to be comic relief. It's a fine line but I thought Origins played it well; Awakening, not so much. Also, while the Alistair cameo was nice, it was also disappointing that I don't get him back on my side Smiley: mad

Edit: And I have NO idea what to do for Awakening talent builds!

Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 6:30am by LockeColeMA


Whichever talents trees you started in Origins -- finish them.

Is there a bonus for doing this? My rogue is all over the place (I played her as a backstabbing machine), but then I heard rogues make good archers so I picked up some archery talents... then I heard they're viable tanks for the super-duper hard boss in Golems of Argharghargh, so I picked up some tanking talents... so she has pretty much a bit of everything. No way I'm resetting her; I have like 30-40 extra skill points thanks to bugging up the Fade, and I lose them if I reset her stuff. I'm starting off around 65 Dexterity and 70 Cunning (which is apparently now useless for archery, sigh...). I figure Legionnaire should be the last one, then pump up Dex and Str?
#188 Oct 03 2011 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm just amused at how easy it is to get Alistair to bang/marry various women with about twenty seconds of conversation.

"Go marry her!" "Do I have to?" "Yeah, you should." "Well... okay."

Hahaha, I thought about this too. Damn Alistair got more loving in my walkthrough than my character did... curses for being the "nice" girl and turning down Zevran and Leliana...
#189 Oct 03 2011 at 9:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Started Mass Effect last night but I hate the interface which isn't helping things.

Still need to do Awakening beyond the starting point I mentioned earlier.
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#190 Oct 03 2011 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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For roques, once you have the Lethality talent, STR is only useful for meeting gear requirements. I recommend focusing mostly on DEX and CUN.

Also, Mass Effect menus are awful. Especially trying to buy/sell anything.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 10:15am by xypin
#191 Oct 03 2011 at 9:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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xypin wrote:
For roques, once you have the Lethality talent, STR is only useful for meeting gear requirements. I recommend focusing mostly on DEX and CUN.

I was thinking in terms of archery or rogue-tanking (doesn't CUN only work as a modifier for backstabs? I could be mis-remembering). Either way, Dex is king in Awakening for a rogue; adds melee damage, ranged damage, and defensive stats for tanking.
#192 Oct 03 2011 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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Started Mass Effect last night but I hate the interface which isn't helping things.

Still need to do Awakening beyond the starting point I mentioned earlier.

Unloading equipment after missions is mind-numbingly tedious, as is getting around the Normandy. Also, the side missions in which you cruise around a few acres of planet hunting for resources are frustrating, not least because they're necessary at times to advance the plot.

The characters and story, however, and great. And that's why you play Bioware games in the first place, I suppose.
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#193 Oct 03 2011 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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LockeColeMA wrote:
xypin wrote:
For roques, once you have the Lethality talent, STR is only useful for meeting gear requirements. I recommend focusing mostly on DEX and CUN.

I was thinking in terms of archery or rogue-tanking (doesn't CUN only work as a modifier for backstabs? I could be mis-remembering). Either way, Dex is king in Awakening for a rogue; adds melee damage, ranged damage, and defensive stats for tanking.

Even with Lethality, Strength/Cunning only effect melee damage. Ranged damage is only effected by Dexterity.
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The characters and story, however, and great. And that's why you play Bioware games in the first place, I suppose.

I've only played Neverwinter Night and Dragon Age from Bioware. Mass Effect is the first time I've had the interface step all over enjoying the plot/characters. I'll try it a little longer yet and see if the plot captures me more than the game itself pushes me away.
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#195 Oct 03 2011 at 10:47 AM Rating: Good
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Demea wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
xypin wrote:
For roques, once you have the Lethality talent, STR is only useful for meeting gear requirements. I recommend focusing mostly on DEX and CUN.
I was thinking in terms of archery or rogue-tanking (doesn't CUN only work as a modifier for backstabs? I could be mis-remembering). Either way, Dex is king in Awakening for a rogue; adds melee damage, ranged damage, and defensive stats for tanking.
Even with Lethality, Strength/Cunning only effect melee damage. Ranged damage is only effected by Dexterity.
DA wiki says otherwise, but like many of you, I have better things to do with my time than test this, so I don't know if that's really the case. Either way though, I can tell you with a high degree of certainty that CUN is an amazing attribute for rangers because it affects your armor penetration, something I found to be incredibly useful on higher difficulties. I will agree on the DEX being an incredible tanking attribute though. The Archdemon could not even touch my rogue because I such high DEX.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 11:51am by xypin
#196 Oct 03 2011 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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I'm just amused at how easy it is to get Alistair to bang/marry various women with about twenty seconds of conversation.

"Go marry her!" "Do I have to?" "Yeah, you should." "Well... okay."


Yet he won't sleep with my male warden. >:(
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#197 Oct 03 2011 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
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xypin wrote:
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For roques, once you have the Lethality talent, STR is only useful for meeting gear requirements. I recommend focusing mostly on DEX and CUN.
I was thinking in terms of archery or rogue-tanking (doesn't CUN only work as a modifier for backstabs? I could be mis-remembering). Either way, Dex is king in Awakening for a rogue; adds melee damage, ranged damage, and defensive stats for tanking.
Even with Lethality, Strength/Cunning only effect melee damage. Ranged damage is only effected by Dexterity.
DA wiki says otherwise, but like many of you, I have better things to do with my time than test this, so I don't know if that's really the case. Either way though, I can tell you with a high degree of certainty that CUN is an amazing attribute for rangers because it affects your armor penetration, something I found to be incredibly useful on higher difficulties. I will agree on the DEX being an incredible tanking attribute though. The Archdemon could not even touch my rogue because I such high DEX.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 11:51am by xypin

I stand corrected; I thought the attribute modifier for ranged weapons was 100% DEX, but it's 50% DEX, 50% STR, which would be replaced with CUN upon acquisition of Lethality (except for crossbows).

So, if we're talking about Awakening, I'd probably push to 42 DEX to be able to equip level 9 longbows, then dump the rest into CUN to take advantage of lockpicking, persuade, etc. That level of DEX will also allow you to take Evasion if you're worried about survivability.
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#198 Oct 03 2011 at 12:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
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I'm just amused at how easy it is to get Alistair to bang/marry various women with about twenty seconds of conversation.

"Go marry her!" "Do I have to?" "Yeah, you should." "Well... okay."


Yet he won't sleep with my male warden. >:(

There's an app a patch for that O:-)
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The characters and story, however, and great. And that's why you play Bioware games in the first place, I suppose.

I've only played Neverwinter Night and Dragon Age from Bioware. Mass Effect is the first time I've had the interface step all over enjoying the plot/characters. I'll try it a little longer yet and see if the plot captures me more than the game itself pushes me away.

If you've never played Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, you should remedy that before you move on to DA2 or ME2. The graphics are a bit outdated, but it's all the epic goodness of DA:O, except with blaster pistols, lightsabers, and mind-lightning.
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The characters and story, however, and great. And that's why you play Bioware games in the first place, I suppose.

I've only played Neverwinter Night and Dragon Age from Bioware. Mass Effect is the first time I've had the interface step all over enjoying the plot/characters. I'll try it a little longer yet and see if the plot captures me more than the game itself pushes me away.

If you've never played Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, you should remedy that before you move on to DA2 or ME2. The graphics are a bit outdated, but it's all the epic goodness of DA:O, except with blaster pistols, lightsabers, and mind-lightning.


Now if only the good-side powers were even remotely as interesting as the dark side ones.
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