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#1 Aug 14 2011 at 3:48 PM Rating: Default
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They made about 1.034 trillion ISK (the in-game currency) which has a real world value of about $51,677.50.

They were so proud of themselves, they even made a website dedicated to explaining the scam.

For those that don't know, ripping people off is all part of the fun in Eve Online so they won't face any legal repercussions.

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Oh Look, Another Multizillion-Spacedollar Scam Hit EVE Online

Only in an MMO is a gigantic financial crime a) subject to absolutely no punishment and b) a sign of the community's health because hey, it's all role-playing, right? Once again, we're looking at EVE Online. An intergalactic space Ponzi scheme fleeced investors of 1 trillion spacebuxx or whatever that currency is called, which the perps can put toward a lifetime supply of game time and still have a bunch left over for all the other **** they want to buy in-world.

It was a plain-and-simple Ponzi scheme. About 8,000 players invested their ISK in something called Phaser, Inc, which promised returns of 5 percent per week. Some were wary of the claim but, you know, cognitive dissonance and all that. Well, the scam managers pulled the plug with this douched-up nastygram (and that image above):

After a stunning period of eight months, we decided it's enough. No more new accounts. No more mails. No more payout days. No more ISK. Most likely, this will cause a lot of questions. The most important question will be answered right here, right now. The ISK is gone; you will not see it ever again.

You've invested it, got a chance on some profit, but it turned out to be not the best choice you've ever made. That's how investing works. At least, that's how it went for the most of you.


Massively reports that the scheme did pay out 345.18 billion ISK, and wary investors withdrew 452.72 billion, but that still left over about 1.034 trillion ISK. Given that EVE's in-world currency has a real world value, this ripoff netted scammers "Eddie Lampert" and "Mordor Exuel" the equivalent of $51,677.50. It's enough to buy 2,953 30-day subscriptions or, basically, 160 years of gametime for both.

The fund's website has a full accounting of the eight month scam. They'll face no official moderation, just in-game consequences should any of their fleeced investors have the scratch to come after them. See, this is how much fun/more awesome America would be if the Libertarians actually ran things, and so we should root for that and for Ron Paul to win the Republican presidential nomination, the end.

http://kotaku.com/5830482/oh-look-another-multizillion+spacedollar-scam-hit-eve-online
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#2 Aug 14 2011 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, the website existed before that--it had been the site they used to register accounts for their bank.

Also, the real world value is EXTREMELY misleading. Thing is, they CANNOT (legally) convert the ISK into real world money--it doesn't work that way. In EVE, you are able to buy PLEX (with a limit per period), which is an in-game item that is equal to 30 days of play time. It's useful because it lets people use in-game currency to pay for game time, which is a pretty awesome feature actually.

The price of PLEX is entirely controlled by the player market--right now, they are hovering around 350 million ISK per PLEX.

But, see, that's the thing. You can use the PLEX to add game time instead of using cash, or you can sell it for in-game currency, but there is no way to turn it into real world money outside of your own savings. So, realistically, there's little point to talk about the real-world value. Because I can guarantee you that the vast majority of those funds were made in-game, not using PLEX. Some of it probably was, sure, but the market just wouldn't support that many people buying PLEX.

If that many people had flooded the market with PLEX to support investing 1 trillion ISK with these people, then the value of PLEX would have dropped significantly. That isn't a trend you see in the market (I'm looking at the in-game graph right now). There was a steady increase in the price of PLEX until Incursion launched, which was in the last three months or so).

Plus, this isn't even remotely the first of these scams to happen. These people were absolutely idiotic to trust them.
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