BeanX wrote:
The market is there to make Steam money yes, but only via providing a service that someone else would have offered on a shady trading site. It was made for trading TF2 Hats and DotA2 Items(Both which are F2P games), they added cards later, and Im going to guess 95% users in this thread have made money from farming cards, from games we got as bundle fodder.
I mean I felt his entire argument was "Steam makes money therefore its evil, but only because I have to many friends". They could have just as easily put up the sales and not given anything away for free, cards would still be sold and traded like they are now. I highly doubt that many people are buying cards just to feed points to their team.
Point the first: It started out as you described, but the cards certainly are a naked cash grab. Not that I'm going to refrain from getting mine, mind you. Paragraph the second: I don't know that it's quite what you're saying, though that is certainly one interpretation. Most of his videos are in reaction to something. I suspect, since I've seen it a bit myself, that many are ascribing pure motives to Steam while decrying other services *cough*Origin*cough* as being vile-hearted money grubbers. I think it's fair to say that if Valve gets away with good press for farming their fanbase for money, they'll find even more ways to do it. I'm okay with that if it doesn't inconvenience me, but I'm not gonna call their motives pure or anything.
TirithRR wrote:
He goes on to talk about paying valve for friends list increases... and still uses 15% to Valve. But users don't use summer events badges to grind levels. But non-Valve game cards, I'm almost certain 10% goes to the Developers and 5% to Valve.
And I don't get the "Throw the Jew down the well" song at the end.
Either way, it's sort of charging people for an increased friend list. And the song was a poor choice, but he's kinda bad about looking for the least politically correct thing that he can find sometimes. I would have gone with something like Kill the Beast from Beauty and the Beast or something more about ********** the machine", but either way, I thought it got his point across. He feels that Gaben is cynically making money off of the fanbase and needs to be dealt with. I don't think it's quite that bad, but it's good to be aware of.
Jophiel wrote:
GOG's final free game as Alan Wake: American Nightmare during the dead of night. So the five people who don't own it missed it. Neener neener.
Damn. On the other hand, I'm missing both that AND torchlight, so I have to be in the .000001% or something.
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