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I've been thinking of posting this for a few days now and finally got bored enough to do it. Obviously, Blizzard likes recycling content. However, this isn't *always* a bad thing. I think the troll heroics were pretty well handled, as well as Heroic SFK and Deadmines. So, the question I pose is what content would you like to see return and in what capacity? Please make sure it's realistic to the current design philosophy. For example, 40 man raids are fossils and another 40 man raid just isn't going to happen.

My list...

• Ulduar - As a revamped raid.
• Karazhan - Either as a raid or a series of heroics.
• Heroic Gnomergan (along with some epicly awesome engineer drops and maybe mounts for everyone)

Edited, Mar 13th 2012 4:14am by ekaterinodar

I like your idea of Kara as a series of dungeons, but I wouldn't do them as heroics or endgame content (which would then in turn get outdated again - that is the problem with endgame, it keeps making itself irrelevant). I'd just split it up into level 70 dungeons so you could get them in the dungeon finder while leveling. I think Kara was one of the coolest things they've done and it would be nice if it wasn't left behind.

I kind of feel that way about most content, I guess: if you insist on recycling it, don't just move it with the goalposts. Make it a "permanent" part of the game by integrating it as part of the leveling process, via dungeon finder.

Actually, what I would like to see is the ability to run LFG for any dungeon, and have the participants scale back to that level. I'd love to be able to group with a leveling guildie, let's say he is level 38, and have my character auto-nuked to that level so I could heal for them in that instance. I know there are a lot of things to be worked out with gear, spells, etc. But it would still be awesome.

Something is lost in the translation. Let the old content rest.

I just got FF1 (The original) on my iphone. I remember playing that game forever. I tried it out.... It hasn't aged well.


People don't want Ulduar back - they want the feeling of raiding ulduar back. You can't do that by bumping up the stats on a few mobs and re-introducing it.



That said - I'd really like to see a lvl 90 Naxx. haha

I'd rather have no recycled content at all. Sadly, that's not going to happen.

Edited, Mar 13th 2012 2:42pm by TherealLogros

Different people are different. Maybe FF1 hasn't aged well, or maybe you are the sort of person who doesn't really like old stuff as much as you thought. That said, I recently found Baldur's Gate on GOG and started playing it -- I love it more now than I did when I was originally playing it (this has something to do with getting better at videogames in general with WoW). Maybe that just means that BG aged well while FF1 didn't . . . but I suspect that some people (like me) really like returning to old things even as they were back then, while others (like you) really prefer to experience new things.

I'm the same way about books, movies, and music, too: I have no problems rereading old books or rewatching old movies that I love, and in November when I'm writing every night, I tend to listen to the same hour-long playlist over and over again throughout the whole month without ever feeling like it's getting old or repetitive.

I should note though that I haven't been through most of the original content yet (highest is 42 and I've mostly soloed), so I can't really weigh in on which to recycle. The only thing I really wish they'd do is make Ragefire Chasm somehow actually fun, while keeping it low level. I've never had a good experience in there.

I don't want to see anything recycled. I'd like remember the old content for what it was, not for what it could be. I believe that there's a general consensus that the game has become much easier. With that being said, I have many great memories of wipes from past content and I don't want them to be replaced easy-peasy level X attuned rehash that most people will breeze through.

Karazhan was great for it's time. It was great for the play style at that time, for what the game was then. Reintroducing Kara, wouldn't be so much as putting players back into it, but more of putting Kara into today's game - which I don't think would be as fun. I hope that makes some sense.

Lastly, if I may contradict myself, I would like to see Shadow labs or Setthek Halls back. As a hunter, who ran those more often than not, I had to endure some very critical whispers about my CC skills, or lack thereof, which forced me to learn that part of my class.

Yeah, but you have to admit, his daughter is pretty hot. Just sayin'.

Edited, Mar 14th 2012 12:23pm by ekaterinodar

I'd be surprised if it happened as soon as MoP, but give it a couple of expansions. I wouldn't expect nearly the emphasis on raiding to see end-game as you have now.

Yeah, except that MoP was already in the works before they saw that, so I'm guessing it'll take a bit longer before raiding goes the way of the talent tree.

Seconded. When I heard about the absolute hash that they made out of the Jagged Alliance 2 reboot, I got the decade-old original off of GOG (couldn't find my CD, although it will show up again now that I've paid). Attacking the 1990s era game with a 2010s era sensibility - while it's nice that it's enough of a sandbox that you can loot every residence in Arulco, nothing you ever found there was decisive in the endgame, and skipping the whole process can easily cut 10% of time played, and the most boring, grindy 10% too - it's just as much fun as in my first play-throughs.

That said, let the past lie. Tweak the old content so that it's relevant again in the new leveling game, and concentrate most of your assets on new content. And by that I include giving casuals an endgame that is independent of raiding, like they could have had if they'd built on BC as a framework.

LFR is NOT raiding, it's a single player adventure with 24 NPC's.

You're doing a raid instance with a raid group. What's your definition of raiding?