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#1 Mar 07 2012 at 12:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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I haven't seen those posted on here yet so I'm curious what you guys think about this, the scroll of resurrection revamp.

Red flags for me include the fact that it's listed under a /blog/ heading and it's almost April 1st. Also, I know some people don't like clicking links so below I'll include the text:


"When those spectral mounts made the rounds a couple of months ago, we all wondered when they'd show up. It turns out they're for Scroll of Resurrection's revamp!

Players who revive another person's previously inactive account will receive a spectral mount based on their faction. Meanwhile, the player who accepts a Scroll will get an even sweeter deal:

A single character boosted to 80
A free character move and faction change
Seven days of free game time
And last, but not least, a free upgrade to Cataclysm

This is pretty big, and I imagine many of you have accounts of your own you'll want to resurrect--good thing you can! As long as an account has been inactive since before March 4th, 2012 you're eligible to be brought back into Azeroth for these goodies."
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Link also has a 'blue' post about it.

Again, I haven't seen it mentioned yet on here.
#2 Mar 07 2012 at 2:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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The boost to 80 is too far... Great. Now we'll have people playing at 85 in a couple of weeks who, potentially, haven't played since Vanilla. The last thing we need is more people at 85 utterly clueless as to what they are doing. I remember when I first started playing. We were relieved when we get got to Blood Furnace because the players had been challenged enough that the basics of their class *should* have sunk in, and, content had been increasing in difficulty since the 40s that players who had failed to grasp the basics were unable to get past those levels (minus those with help). Now it's possible for players to go 1 to 85 without learning key components of their character, let alone more challenging game play.

Now, Blizzard is telling us that the first 80 levels are completely unimportant. Why are they there? Just start us all off at 80 and be done with this pathetic joke they've made of 90% of the game. I understand there is end game and many of us are there. But when I play 85 levels I want those 85 levels to have been engaging from the start. If, seriously is the right word, I take a level 40 dungeon as seriously as a level 85 dungeon. By that, I mean, I am in that dungeon because I'm playing a game, not a slot machine that throws out pretty colored text on my screen (i.e., gear).

I'm not going to be canceling my account over this, but I am very disappointed. This game is turning into so much of a bloated whale.

Edited, Mar 7th 2012 6:08pm by ekaterinodar
#3 Mar 07 2012 at 3:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Damn it, I always manage to time things wrong.

I upgraded my 3 multi-box accounts to Vanilla about 2 weeks before RAF came out with it's mounts and level bonuses and now I've just bought Wrath and am currently on a 10 day Cata trial on them. Now I don't know whether to buy Cata and game-time for them, or let them go inactive and hope there's another deal later along the line.

Edit for thoughts on the wider topic: I can see why leveling through the whole game can be a good experience (both in terms of class and just enjoying the game), but it is extremely easy and I'm not sure how much people will learn on the way. Quite a few of your classes key skills aren't learnt until the higher levels and most things die so quickly that there isn't time to use a proper rotation, so for leveling you usually want most damage with least downtime, which works for 5mans but won't do much good in a raid.

I'm also guessing that Blizz is hoping this will garner more interest for MoP, leveling from 1-85 and then going for a further 5(?) levels could be rather daunting, and there may be people who decide that it won't be worth the hassle, or who won't remain interested in the game for that long. If you start at 80 then it's not such a long trip, so there's the potential that you have enough time to reignite interest and have people who will then go on to buy MoP.


Edited, Mar 7th 2012 4:54am by Tynuv
#4 Mar 07 2012 at 7:09 AM Rating: Good
Yeah, I'm not believing it. Seems TOO awesome. I mean, I can understand possibly doing something like this closer to when MoP comes out so those people can experience it right away, but it seems fishy.

I still think it seems fishy... but considering it IS on battle.net as well, it's could be true.



Edited, Mar 7th 2012 8:10am by xNocturnalSunx
#5 Mar 07 2012 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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Just my luck.

I cancelled my subscription earlier this year, but someone hacked my account a week or two ago and paid for a month of game time, which means my subscription is still running and will be running for a couple of weeks, making me ineligible for this. Smiley: crymore
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#6 Mar 07 2012 at 12:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think the M.O is to get some of the more recent cancellations back. I highly doubt someone who hasn't played since 1.x or 2.x will come back because of this. The free 80 seems a bit over the top, but then again, I'm going to assume that the more recent cancellations have an 80 or above already.

I don't understand why they put in all the effort into redoing the vanilla quests and zones only to offer a way to skip it all.

My conspiracy theory is this. Blizzard needs to show investors that it can still keep a player base. Since the release of cataclysm, the Activision stock has lost 15% of it's value. If the new scroll brings back players, Blizzard can show that it's not losing subscriptions. I would assume that there are no costs to Blizzard for character/faction changes and the upgrade to Cataclysm would be digital so no packaging costs, however, every one that comes back is an extra $15 a month. Once Q2 comes to a close, Blizz can say put out a statement that says something along the lines of "..we increased subscriptions by X percent in Q2"

Basically there are no external costs for the perks Blizzard is offering, while at the same time showing investors that it's not losing more subscriptions.

I had a monster sized Monster energy drink, thinking way outside the box.
#7 Mar 07 2012 at 12:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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ACLinjury wrote:
I don't understand why they put in all the effort into redoing the vanilla quests and zones only to offer a way to skip it all.


I'm thinking as MoP gets going the 1-60 redo is going to start to feel older again. I'm a little surprised they offered a way around it as early on as they did. I'd like to say I'm completely surprised you're allowed to skip levels at all, but frankly I'm not. They've been trying to smooth over the leveling process for a while now, recruit a friend already was pretty powerful in that regards, and this is kind of the next logical step I guess. It does feel a bit weird in my mind to do that, as leveling is part of an MMO in a sense; but in one as alt-friendly as WoW where multiple characters are commonplace and basically expected I'm not too surprised.

It does feel kind of weird to skip over what was arguably the best part of the expansion though, and a part they hoped would attract new players to the game. Smiley: rolleyes

Edited, Mar 7th 2012 10:30am by someproteinguy
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#8 Mar 07 2012 at 8:24 PM Rating: Good
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So basically 88.8%, with the .8 repeating of course, of the leveling process is moot now.

Spoiler alert: next month everyone that comes back gets a free legendary weapon, 25k gold, and any 10 exhaled reputations!
#10 Mar 08 2012 at 7:22 AM Rating: Good
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I'm fine with it.... A sign of the times.

Nothing new here.
#11 Mar 08 2012 at 7:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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and any 10 exhaled reputations!

Well, I guess I can ... Breath easy now.

YEEEEAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!

The free bump up to level 80 did surprise me but, then again, I guess the player gets to choose which character receives it. It's not like all your characters become level 80. The 1-60 Cata revamp was a breath of fresh air for me. I'd leveled a few Alliance characters through Azeroth and beyond, and even more characters pushed up to just level 40 or 50 that were kind of early "experimentations" when getting to know the game. I'd also done the Horde side to at least level 30 a few times. A clean sweep with tighter story/questing focus was a Titan sent blessing. I, honestly, haven't touched the high Cata dungeons much on any of my characters. It's the world itself I've enjoyed most of all this expansion. Which is possibly a bad thing, if it's because "end game" content didn't feel tempting enough this time. It largely is because it's just so fun being an orc or worgen, etc, though. Not playing an orc. Being one, in the middle of multiple wars. It also helps that quest rewards (more often) looks less like Helen Keller took on a fashion design career now.

But I don't feel like I'm being an orc (or worgen, or whatever) if I'm planted down at level 80 all of a sudden when I didn't travel there. It feels more like someone else said, "here, you can play with my level 80 for a bit". This isn't mine. This isn't me. It's an orc, sure but ... Who the zug-zug is he?? I'm not even a big role player. There's something about the way I think of my characters, though, that makes me enjoy the game less if I - for lack of better words - haven't traveled with my character. If I don't know them. I'd find it hard to be handed a level 80 and be told, "here you go. This is your character now". No, it's not. It's a character. I remember earning my very first grey axe in the starting area when I was a young villager and, yeah, it was great stepping through the Dark Portal with them to experience a new world with them as we grew and wandered together. But something's lost. It'd be like a friend you stopped talking to and suddenly met up with again five years later. Their features are the same, the name is the same. You can't say you've grown together though. Somewhere along the line, they've done their adventures that you never saw. And now they're back, ready to play. It's just that there's an element of them that you'll never understand. Whole chunks of experience (or XP) that have nothing to do with you. The character's not you anymore. It's a friend that went away and tried to come back later.

Goodbye, Xlolwarriorx. Who knew that an orc with a name like that would grow up to be such a douche?
#12 Mar 08 2012 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
My only question is... Do you only get one mount per referral, or is the mount available to all characters on one WoW account?

I have 4 inactive WoW accounts (all on the same battle.net account), and I am thinking about doing this at least twice (if need be)... but I would have to figure out which character on the other two accounts are worthy to be L.80 since I don't play those accounts rarely, if at all.

The way I think about it is.. if I can spend $20-$25 for a mount in the Blizzard store... paying $15 for one month (per account) just for the "special" mount isn't that bad.
It would be nice if I could level one of my alts on my main account to 80 instead, but meh...
#13 Mar 08 2012 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I actually thought about doing this. MY wife has an inactive account as do I. Thought about reactivating mine (or maybe letting someone here use my as there scroll) and then referring my wifes account (its still under her maiden name, address, etc)
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#14 Mar 09 2012 at 12:15 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going to take a guess at one of the reasons for a free level 80 character is to let the returning player have a character of their choice be able to play with their friends in end game content, while still giving them a reason to play an alt. This way people might be interested in playing a second/third character after the free 80 so they can see the revamped 1-60 world. Keeps people around longer and lets them join the end game fun with their friend.
#15 Mar 09 2012 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
fronglo wrote:
I actually thought about doing this. MY wife has an inactive account as do I. Thought about reactivating mine (or maybe letting someone here use my as there scroll) and then referring my wifes account (its still under her maiden name, address, etc)



I'd be up to sending you one =P
#16 Mar 09 2012 at 8:38 AM Rating: Good
I activated one of my inactive accounts back from when I was multiboxing. I had no shammy on my main account since I recently deleted my level 50 from there.

This let me bring up a level 20 shammy on the second account to 80. They gave me cataclysm, all 20 slot bags, ilvl 232 green gear in all slots (armory link), flying including old world and a free regular gryphon, First Aid at 450, and a cookie cutter talent spec already done. The only thing I was missing is glyphs.

In a week they should hit me up for one month's $15, and I get my spectral gryphon on my main. At that point, I'll character transfer the shammy to my main account, and inactivate the second. That's right, I'm playing the system. Of course, Blizz makes some money on the deal, but that's ok.

Edited, Mar 9th 2012 11:19am by dadanox
#17 Mar 09 2012 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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I had three accounts before RAF came out so I missed out on those mounts. I just couldn't justify getting a fourth account to get a single mount on one of my characters. Plus I knew if I did get a fourth account just for the mount, I would end up using that fourth account and not deleting it.

When the annual pass thing came out, my boyfriend reinstated his three accounts because he's actually interested in MoP though still not really playing WoW right now. So, of course I miss out on being able to SoR his accounts for my own benefit.

I have paid for and played on my three accounts continuously since then so of course even though I have given Blizz much more money than a lot of players, I don't have any easy way to get the new Spectral mount unlike those who got an extra account to milk for the RAF benefits and then dropped it once the obligation was over with.

Honestly, I don't really care about the bump to level 80 part. I happen to enjoy leveling and tend to do it at my own slow pace. The free upgrade to Cataclysm and the free server/faction transfers seem like great offers though not of much use to me even if I did have an expired account available. It's the mount that I am really interested in. I just wish it was an account wide mount instead of being tied to a single character.

Will I try to find someone to use a SoR on? I have a friend with an extra inactive account that he just can't afford to pay for right now even though he'd like to have the mount too. He said that I could SoR his account for the mount if I pay for the month's subscription. Even if I do that though, I would have to decide which of my many characters would get the cool mount. I don't have a problem spending $25 for an account-wide mount but buying a mount (or a pet) for just one character like that just doesn't appeal to me.

It's a good deal but it just seems like they made it too easy for people to game it for the benefits and then drop the account like they did with it after milking the RAF out of it.
#18 Mar 09 2012 at 7:18 PM Rating: Excellent
Wowcrendor's take on it:

#19 Mar 10 2012 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
I got scrolled. I guess I'm missed. . . lol.

So what to bang boom pow to 80? My lv7 Rogue or ?

I've not really played in a good year or so. Blizz feels kind and sends me a free week every 3months (almost) on the dot. I just used a free week last week, and now another one. But what to PL to 80?
I have (off the top of my head): 80 warrior, hunter 85 DK, 50 Druid, 40-50 Lock.
Hmm...
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#20 Mar 10 2012 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Well tried to use this for my wife and its not working. Says her account is not eligible and I can't understand why it isn't? She had an active subscription about 5 months ago with lich king expansion. She hasn't ever received a scroll in the past and she wasn't active before march.

We both have tickets submitted and good old Blizzard is day 2 with no response... Also shouldn't have anything to do with being my wife as the account is under her maiden name at her old address and it is different billing information.
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#21 Mar 10 2012 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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Have you previously used a scroll of resurrection? I tried previously with my bro's account and after stumbling around I finally discovered it was because I had sent it to him a year or so before.
#22 Mar 10 2012 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
It just so happens i wanted to sign back up. I wish someone would send me a scroll of resurrection.
#23 Mar 10 2012 at 3:19 PM Rating: Good
pm me an Email and ill see if it will let me send you one.
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#24 Mar 11 2012 at 3:40 PM Rating: Good
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Has anybody actually done it yet? Seems awfully, more like ridiculously, generous. Maybe they should throw in 100 shares of Blizzard stock.

The following makes me just little suspicious - as in DUCK!!!!!!!

"it's listed under a /blog/ heading and it's almost April 1st."
#25 Mar 11 2012 at 4:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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it works, just fine, friend resurected his own account, got the mount, leveled a character he never played to 80 got the flying including old world flying free... 200 something ilevel green gear... if I had more time I'd consider bringing back my own second account for it, been meaning to get it back online anyway for the guild XP of leveling more characters in my private guild
#26 Mar 11 2012 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
I accepted a friend's.
I used the insta80 on my lv7 Goblin rogue I had rolled before I quit. She now has iLV236 (i think) gear. I was told it was full ToC10 gear (cuz i don't remember). Flying training up to 80, all flight paths, bags, food, and I think 1st aid was leveled. I don't remember her having a reason to have 85g on her, but she did (not sure if that was in the pack). You also got to pick the tree for mastery, so my skilltree is just a cookie cutter build. No glyphs.

I already have cata, and my other toons off realm are DKs so I didn't have any I wanted to xfer/nation change.

Of course I have no idea how to play the rogue, and now will have to spend hours researching it. I will pay for at least 30 days so the guildie who used the scroll gets the mount and whatever else comes with.
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