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#1 Feb 24 2012 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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I like making polls; especially on Friday.

Anyway enough about me. This is about gold. Gold is awesome in many ways, no so much in other ways. Collecting it is a favorite pastime for some, and an annoying chore for others. One thing about WoW is for the most part you can't buy decent gear with gold. The best stuff being all bind-on-pickup. That's great on one hand, on the other you'll have people complaining there isn't much to spend their gold on. Not enough gold sinks for the fabulously wealthy.

So here's my question: do you think gold should be a more important part of the game?

Do we bring on the epic yacht mounts and the BoE gear? Or would you like to see it's role diminished. I'm assuming it would always be there in some degree, in lieu of a pure barter system. But less BoE stuff, less to spend it on, less emphasis on it for quest rewards (more tokens perhaps?), etc. could reduce it's role quickly.

What would you like to see happen with gold in the game?
Expand it's role, give us more stuff we can purchase with it:9 (22.5%)
I like things the way they are:18 (45.0%)
Diminish it's role, it's too pivotal to the game already:4 (10.0%)
#$%& gold. Where's my beer, boobs, and bacon option?!:9 (22.5%)
Total:40


For myself I'm actually a little undecided. So I'm hoping you people will help the thought process along. While I'm not sure having everything BoE is something I'd go for, there's not really enough to spend gold on these days.
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#2 Feb 24 2012 at 10:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've heard money can't buy you happiness, so I guess I'll just have to rent it.
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#3 Feb 24 2012 at 10:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've been disenchanted with it all since someone told me they bought love. Smiley: frown
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#4 Feb 24 2012 at 11:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think I like the situation as it stands. I think the average player still can find items he would want to work to earn gold towards and there is a good selection of items that can be bought both for raiding and for fun. Right now, people can enjoy raiding without feeling like they have to spend several hours a week actively farming gold but those who do enjoy farming gold (whether through actual farming or through playing the AH games) can still find fun things to spend their gold on.

Certainly there will always be people who amass so much gold that they don't know what to spend it on but then again, people like that often are a bit reluctant to part with that gold even when there are cool things to spend it on. I kind of think many of those people play the game as a sort of a race to see who can get the most gold and spending it kind of hinders that goal.

Even with gold being so easy to earn right now, there are still many people who always seem to spend all of theirs and who are often heard complaining that they can't pay for their raid repairs or can't buy their own flasks. I suspect that even if the need for gold was drastically reduced in game, many people would still never have enough.
#5 Feb 24 2012 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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lolgaxe wrote:
I've heard money can't buy you happiness, so I guess I'll just have to rent it.


this is true.
money cannot buy you happiness.

but rest assured, money CAN buy you all the other things that WILL make you happy.
#6 Feb 24 2012 at 11:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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capcanuk wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I've heard money can't buy you happiness, so I guess I'll just have to rent it.


this is true.
money cannot buy you happiness.
It's real hard to be happy when you're broke, though.
#7 Feb 24 2012 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Money can buy beer, boobs and bacon at least. Also, I went with that option, naturally.
I like only 2 of the 3 though. Sure, it's only 66%, but it could be worse, right?
#8 Feb 24 2012 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
I would like to buy a chariot with 6 horses and a fishing boat for me and my friends to hang out.
#9 Feb 24 2012 at 4:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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I am really a huge fan of Justice points. The thing I like about them is that they are earned by playing the game in a way that is never going to be competitive. What do I mean? Well I hate trying to farm up a resource to throw into the WoW economy. Once you find something that nets you a lot of gold others get in on it and then supply out-strips demand. If the item is so difficult to get that you can not out supply the demand, you spend all your time getting that item and not having fun in game anymore.

I really enjoy Valor and Justice points because running dungeons is a good time and can net you other things.
#10 Feb 24 2012 at 5:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm happy with its current role. Its easy enough to get that you don't feel like its a horrific chore. At the same time, those who are lazy don't have a lot of it so its not trivial.

I think the current level of purchasable gear is good. If you have too much gear that can be bought it will reduce the value of BoE's and also trivialize content much sooner. The last thing any of us need is fewer people running things because they bought the gear. The result is an overall degradation of the community. Fewer people playing for smaller durations results in more people who lack the natural skills you learn from experiencing the content.

I'd also like to see things in the Blizzard store become available through gold. Make it an obscene amount, but still make it possible to purchase it with gold. It'd be a great way to include a gold sink.
#11 Feb 24 2012 at 5:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm also content with how things are now. There is always a vanity item I do not already possess to blow my gold on. And if I want to spend gold for better gear, well, there are epic gems. On my server red gems go for around 3k - 3,5k. So there are plenty of ways to spend a ton of gold. On the other hand none of this is a necessity so if you don't have the gold you won't suffer.
#12 Feb 24 2012 at 10:33 PM Rating: Good
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I'm also mostly satisfied. You don't HAVE to have a lot of it to succeed, but if you do need or want it, it can be easily obtained with a reasonable application of intelligence and elbow grease.

As a fall-back, it'd be nice if there was a little more useful stuff you could buy with it. I'm quite frustrated with the Firelands rewards system, i.e. you spend weeks running the same dailies over and over, and then they unlock the specialty vendors (I'm assuming this was meant to be a reward)and other than a bunch of plans and recipes only a tiny minority can use, the crap they're offering isn't as good as what you walked in with. From the first two "special" vendors I was able to buy exactly one usable RING (big whoop!).

Its my utilitarian streak - if it isn't useful I don't want to waste time on it. Cutesy companions just get in the way when you're trying to do most anything, and junky trinkets like a "mushroom chair' - only 330 gold - just waste a slot in your packs.

Oh well. you can always burn excess gold by nerfing your alts - unless you're dumb like me and they're on a different server.
#13 Feb 25 2012 at 11:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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At the time Molten Front opened up, that gear was an upgrade for most people. But since then, more content and better gear has been released. Unfortunately, this is common in WoW.
#14 Feb 25 2012 at 1:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh well. you can always burn excess gold by nerfing your alts - unless you're dumb like me and they're on a different server.


Or a different faction. There are soooo many things that I loot I would love to pass on to my level 20ish Pally...except she's Horde and my main is Alliance. I created the Horde character first, not knowing anything about the game, because I have always played elves on EQ and the BE looked the best to me. Then I find out she's Horde...great. I then create a Human Pally with Alliance and didn't realize there would be a barrier between alts in different factions.

I'm still REALLY steamed about Blizzard GMs' total disregard in answering one easy question/request in support tickets, so I'm not a huge fan of anything Blizzard does at the moment.

*Mutters darkly and heads to SecondLife*
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#15 Feb 25 2012 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
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Lady Azalysa wrote:
Or a different faction. There are soooo many things that I loot I would love to pass on to my level 20ish Pally...except she's Horde and my main is Alliance. I created the Horde character first, not knowing anything about the game, because I have always played elves on EQ and the BE looked the best to me. Then I find out she's Horde...great. I then create a Human Pally with Alliance and didn't realize there would be a barrier between alts in different factions.


Weelllllll........

Technically there is a way:

Trading between Factions:

It's not easy, but you CAN trade between Alliance and Horde characters. First you must get an alliance character and a horde character (they CANNOT be on the same account so you must use someone you trust completely ) at the AH in Gadgetzan. If you wanted to pass 85 gold from Alliance to Horde, for example, you have the Horde char. offer a light leather or some other cheap item with a BO of 100 gold (BTW, you pay a 15% commission, so your horde character only gets 85 gold). The Alliance char simply pays it. Passing an item has a bit more risk to it. You offer your item with a very cheap BO and the other char buys it quickly.

I think there's also a goblin AH in Booty Bay. Both players would also have to be on the same server.

Lady Azalysa wrote:

*Mutters darkly and heads to SecondLife*


Never played it - what is it?

Edited, Feb 25th 2012 3:33pm by Ollamnh
#16 Feb 25 2012 at 5:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lady Azalysa wrote:

*Mutters darkly and heads to SecondLife*


Ollamnh wrote:
Never played it - what is it?


It is not a game, it is a virtual world that is completely resident-built. Anything one enjoys: any hobby, activity, sport, etc. one enjoys can be found "virtually" within this environment. The animations are amazingly realistic and those who enjoy rp dressing in WoW would LOVE the endless variety of clothing styles (again, anything one can imagine) within SL.

People enjoy SL for various reasons: Some enjoy building and then go on to sell their virtual creations. (As a sidenote, the monetary exchange denomination in SL, lindens, can be converted into actual USD. A woman with the avatar name of Anshe Chung was the first person to become a millionaire via her SL business endeavors and was featured on the cover of Newsweek Magazine. More info here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2007/07/29/alternate-universe.html.)

In addition to building, selling, possibly earning RL money, it is a very social world, but again that socializing can be in the form of anything from ballroom dancing to role play environments. Although SL is not a "game" there are games *within* SL. For those who enjoy the battle/killing type of games, they exist. Enjoy questing - many, many, many questing areas within SL. It is difficult to explain and those steeped in MMORPGs and desiring to reach "the end game" will either not enjoy this environment or find something within it to pique their interest. The friend who suggested I try WoW, who I initially met in EQ said he didn't realize how many things there are to do (endless) in SL until he began talking to me and will shortly be coming to SL for my personal "tour."
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#17 Feb 27 2012 at 3:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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I like things as they are at the moment. I get very bored grinding gold, so I wouldn't like it to be something I'd have to do to experience raid content. At the moment there are a few slots you can buy gear for, but unless you're trying to fast track a toon you shouldn't need to buy all of them to be competitive in raiding.

Vanity items I don't care about, if I think they are reasonably priced and I want them I'd buy them but I won't lose anything by not having them.

I'm quite frugal with my gold and prefer farming things I need rather than buying them from the AH. My next big expense will be the faster flying (280% not 310%) for the alts I'm leveling at the moment.
#18 Feb 27 2012 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
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Beer, boobs and bacon make me happy.
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#19 Feb 27 2012 at 12:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Horsemouth wrote:
Beer, boobs and bacon make me happy.

Never use bacon straight from the pan, though, people. Let it cool a bit first.
#20 Feb 27 2012 at 1:23 PM Rating: Default
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Beer, boobs and bacon make me happy.
You can't see the beer but it's there. http://www.fustilugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fat-person.jpg
#21 Feb 27 2012 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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In a few years you'll be too old for the ladies and beer will just give you gas. When your toothless old gums are inadequate for anything tougher than soft-boiled eggs, you're going really miss the bacon....
#22 Feb 28 2012 at 7:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've said this before, but Skyrim made me obsessed with housing. I don't mind a pointless money sink if it's a FUN pointless money sink.
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