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#1 Feb 24 2012 at 8:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Main question: Does the Lashtail Raptor Egg Fragment (http://www.wowhead.com/item=58165/lashtail-raptor-egg-fragment) have to be in one's possession to be able to obtain the Raptor Hatchling from the "Be Raptor" quest?

I completed this quest line in STV which culminated in the extremely tedious/frustrating quest of taking on the form of the Raptor Hatchling only to have it be taken away at the end. I have been looking forward to the time I reach level 85, can do the ZG instance, and redeem the hatchling as a permanent pet. I kept this egg fragment in my bags for a long time the one day was out questing and needed more bag space. Since this fragment no longer summoned the hatchling and I knew I would eventually regain the pet, I deleted it.

Yesterday I was re-reading the quest line as I will be going through it again with my alt and noticed in one of the posts a mention that if the egg fragment is gone, one doesn't get the hatchling in the ZG dungeon. WHAT?!?!?!?! If this is the case, there should be something within the quest that cautions to keep the egg fragment, imo. So I opened a ticket to ask (1) if the egg fragment is needed to obtain the hatchling and (2) if so, could it be restored. I just received a response saying my deleted inventory was too old to be able to retrieve the item. They did not answer if I needed the fragment to complete the quest.

Anyone who has successfully gained the raptor hatchling pet via this quest line, do you know if it requires the egg fragment, please? I will be absolutely sick if it does. Smiley: frown
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#2 Feb 24 2012 at 8:15 AM Rating: Excellent
If I may ask, how long ago did you delete it? Sounds like you may have had a poopy GM. They may not be able to retrieve it if it's too old, but they can certainly put a new one in your bags.
#3 Feb 24 2012 at 8:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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xNocturnalSunx wrote:
If I may ask, how long ago did you delete it? Sounds like you may have had a poopy GM. They may not be able to retrieve it if it's too old, but they can certainly put a new one in your bags.


I don't know the exact date but it was either late December 2011 or early January 2012. Putting a new one in my bags was what I thought would/should happen as well. I just submitted a new ticket asking, again, if the egg fragment is needed to complete the ZG dungeon quest and asked, if so, if a new one could be provided.

I'm really hoping the fragment is not needed. If so, it should be in BIG RED LETTERS on the quest somewhere: DO NOT DELETE!!
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#4 Feb 24 2012 at 8:25 AM Rating: Excellent
Oh that's definitely not "old" at all. I think you just got a crappy GM. Because I've deleted something by accident that was months ago and got it restored. I've never done the quest so I can't really answer, but I hope you get a better GM this time around that'll actually answer your question and is more helpful.
#5 Feb 24 2012 at 8:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thank you, NocturnalSun. Me too! If I don't, a telephone call will be next.

Soooo kicking myself for deleting that, but had no idea it "could" be an issue later on and I REALLY want my lil hatchling back.

EDIT: Just a thought on the GMs answering tickets - does the same GM answer follow-up questions to a given ticket or is it just the roll of the dice?

Edited, Feb 24th 2012 9:29am by Azalysa
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#6 Feb 24 2012 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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You do not need to keep the shell fragment. You just need to have completed the STV quest line. Once you get into ZG, after killing the blood lord, the baby raptor will be in a corner with the yellow quest marker over it's head.

Good luck on being reunited!
#7 Feb 24 2012 at 9:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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MissMandie wrote:
You do not need to keep the shell fragment. You just need to have completed the STV quest line. Once you get into ZG, after killing the blood lord, the baby raptor will be in a corner with the yellow quest marker over it's head.

Good luck on being reunited!


THANK YOU sooooo much, MissMandie!!! <Breathes HUGE sigh of relief> Looking forward to being reunited with Cynwyn'aka has been my main impetus to level to 85! I miss the little thing.
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#8 Feb 24 2012 at 12:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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I know you had your question answered, but you definitely got a bad GM and if that ever happens again, I'd make a new ticket. My guildmaster's kid deleted his (the GM's) enchanting rod and a couple weeks ago and when my GM noticed a couple days later, he logged a ticket because you can't just make the highest level enchanting rod, you have to start with the first one and keep upgrading it. Anyway, the first GM that responded to the ticket said it had been deleted too long ago and they had no record, so they couldn't restore it. My GM knew he had just enchanted his gear the week previous after a raid, so he submitted a second ticket, basically telling them that the previous GM didn't have a clue what he was talking about, and the second guy that responded to the ticket restored his enchanting rod.

(Using GM as an abbreviation for two different people is stupid, but I didn't know a better way to do it!)
#9 Feb 24 2012 at 1:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thank you, Tellaria. Thank you for relating that situation - I now know I don't have to just accept that response as gospel. It will be interesting to see what the second GM says.
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#10 Feb 24 2012 at 1:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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You're very welcome. I know how frustrating it can be when you think you goofed and the GMs aren't in a helpful mood. Good luck!
#11 Feb 25 2012 at 8:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, NOW I'm mad. I submitted a second ticket requesting for the second time that the egg fragment be replaced AND asked AGAIN if it is needed to obtain the raptor hatchling within the ZG instance. (That was answered here by a member of the wonderful ZAM community...take a hint, Blizzard, on customer service.)

So I receive a response from another GM. This one was more "upbeat" in mood and said that "if I was missing my little friend" I could go get the "An Old Friend" quest in ZG, then suggested I look up the quest on wowhead.

*Pulls hair out* Smiley: banghead So my question was STILL not answered (knowing the answer from this site notwithstanding) and no further assistance with the egg fragment being replaced.

I just sent in a THIRD ticket stating that, per quest info on wowhead that I was directed to read, I CAN'T do the "An Old Friend" quest until level 85. I tried last week and received the message that this content was not open to me yet. (As a side thought...not being able to enter the instance doesn't have anything to do with not having the Cata expac vs being too low a level yet does it? I don't think it does, but just throwing that thought out.)

After *strongly* "requesting" the egg fragment be replaced, including saying I'm pretty sure this can be done due to my experiences with similar situations in both Everquest and SecondLife, I then suggested that Blizzard read some of the comments by players on wowhead re: the "Be Raptor" quest. This piece of the quest line is so frustrating to complete (I personally spent at least 16 hours in it) that many people just gave up and some refuse to do the quest on principle of so much work/time for so little reward PLUS having the hatchling taken away when all through the quest line it was intimated it would be returned. (Technically yes...in another 50 levels!) I ended my ticket, trying very hard to stay polite, with - due to now having to submit three tickets to get a simple question answered (Is the egg fragment needed to complete the quest) I am disappointed with the level of customer service provided by Blizzard and contemplating if it is worth my time to continue.

I have heard many, many times how much advertising dollars are spent on companies trying to gain new customers; then poor customer service can thwart all the money spent. *Just shakes head*
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#12 Feb 25 2012 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Damn that is some horrible luck with the GMs. Do you remember the names of the GMs that talked to you? If so I would report them to customer service. Also don't give up on sending in tickets. Be polite but clear on your explination of your problem. If you have any problem understanding what the GM is saying ask him/her to rephrase what they said. Keep pestering them and you will eventually get the problem fixed. Good luck.
#13 Feb 25 2012 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's good to know that what I am experiencing is not "par for the course" for Blizzard GM "customer service." If I did not receive satisfaction, I had planned to contact Blizzard directly to let them know my extreme displeasure. Is there a particular email or area within the Blizzard website to do so, please?

I did receive a very prompt reply to my third ticket saying:

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It looks like you don't need the raptor shell fragments to complete the quest "An Old Friend" in the 85 ZG instance. I hope this answers your question! :D


Nothing in the response that addressed my annoyance over this entire issue (such as, "I'm sorry for your inconvenience") and the little :D emoticon seems almost facetious. That prompted yet another ticket on my part. After thanking the third GM for the information, I again expressed my disappointment in much stronger terms re: how a very simple ticket was handled. Regarding the eggshell fragment, I stated that whether it is needed to complete the quest or not, at this point simply replacing the item would be a huge step toward customer relations and even retaining a customer.

That is the last ticket I plan on submitting. If you, Criminy, or anyone could point me to the appropriate place to report these so-called "GMs" to Blizzard, I would be most appreciative.

EDIT: Since posting this, I received a response from GM #4 stating in part:

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I believe actually the fragment disappears because it is no longer needed after the Lashtail Raptor is abducted by Bloodlord Mandokir =)


Now I'm confused. I recall the part in the quest where Mandokir shows up while I'm handing in part of the quest line at one of the STV camps and demands the egg. I *thought* the eggshell remained in my inventory because I recall looking at it and sighing that it no longer summoned the hatchling. I *thought* I deleted the eggshell sometime after the "Be Raptor" final quest in the series due to needing bag space while I was questing, but now I'm wondering. I have an alt at the appropriate level to begin that quest line. Except for the frustration of having the hatchling abducted "again" I'm tempted to run through the quest just to check it out.

Does anyone know for sure if the eggshell really *does* poof on its own?

Thank you all for your kind support and suggestions.

Edited, Feb 25th 2012 6:24pm by Azalysa
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#14 Feb 25 2012 at 10:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I know the one character that I've done the chain leading up to it for doesn't have the fragment anymore, but the one time I've set food in the dungeon via random the tank dropped after "explaining wrong" for the toxic-link part of a fight (he said either run away or touch each other when linked, but it was opposite to what he said?) and then the replacement tank dropped group before even coming across the bridge to that fight spot after taking 5 minutes of standing at the other side.... so I can't comment for sure if it's needed, sounds like it's not though.

From reading through the wowhead comments once you've done be raptor you head into the instance (85 heroic, so you need to hit 85 AND be geared enough to get into it)...

She will lead you on a chain to try and save your new raptor hatchling friend from her terrible fate of becoming the Bloodlord's new raptor slave. This is all your fault! But maybe you can do something about it...
1) Mind Vision, 2) See Raptor, 3) Mind Control, 4) Be Raptor, 5) Surkhan
After that really cool and fun quest chain from the Priestess you are read to enter the 85 Heroic Dungeon of Zul'Gurub and face the Bloodlord Mandokir. It's time to undo the mistake you made by bringing him back to life, and you must save your new friend from a world of torture and evil. Once the Bloodlord falls at your hands, you will see An Old Friend. which is a quest that is open if you've done the quests up to where you lose the raptor. No mention of the egg fragment being required etc.

Edited, Feb 25th 2012 11:25pm by Gwenorgan
#15 Feb 26 2012 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks for your input, Gwen. Smiley: smile I do feel MUCH better knowing I don't need the eggshell fragment to complete the quest.

Again, many thanks to those of you who responded to this thread. Just your support was most helpful. Smiley: smile
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#16 Feb 27 2012 at 7:21 AM Rating: Good
Usually after all of my encounters with GMs, I get an email to fill out a survey for that specific GM. Did you not get any? Seems kind of weird that you didn't, unless they changed their procedures.
#17 Feb 27 2012 at 10:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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xNocturnalSunx wrote:
Usually after all of my encounters with GMs, I get an email to fill out a survey for that specific GM. Did you not get any? Seems kind of weird that you didn't, unless they changed their procedures.


No, I did not receive any email/surveys after each encounter, but each response included to contact them if their response didn't resolve the issue.

As my final "ticket" on this subject to the GMs, I sent a thank-you, specifically naming the two who provided the info initially requested and a blanket thank-you to all of them for being patient with me and remaining professional. This morning I received an email from GM #5 saying he was glad to hear everything worked out and provided a link if I wished to write anything that all the GMs who assisted could read. I do plan to do that but have not opened the link as yet.

Now I just need to work towards level 85, having the gear to enter the ZG instance, and finding a group or maybe guild by that time. That will keep me busy. Smiley: wink
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#18 Feb 27 2012 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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Just as a side note. The Troll instances are not something you just walk into upon attaining level 85. You will want to get a certain gear level before attempting it. Heck Blizzard will not even give you the option to random the instance without it. Both of the Zul Heroic instances are challenging and without the proper group can be impossible.

Not trying to discourage you, but if you have this goal in mind, I would set out to get the best gear you can and assemble a crew that works well together. Let folks in your guild know you are shooting for this and have them help you (once you get a guild).

Good Luck!
#19 Feb 27 2012 at 4:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks, Moonkissed...I think. Smiley: lol I'd been reading a little bit about the instance and did see a mention of being geared properly. Since I still consider myself a relative WoW "noob," I have no idea what the proper gear would be. I'll keep my eyes and ears open on that regard.

The ironic thing is that my play style re: MMORPGs (well, EQ & WoW are the only ones I've ever played) is very casual, taking my time, poking around just to see the sights, etc. I solo 98% of the time or duo with a friend here and there, thus I level more slowly than many. In EQ I have zero interest in raiding, the end game, etc. It took 7 years of steady playing to reach level 61. Smiley: eek (In my defense, leveling in EQ was a bit harder beginning in 1999 onward until more recently - still playing my casual style I went from 61 to level 80 in 3 months when I returned last summer - started and deleted myriad alts; spent a lot of time doing trade skills, etc. But you get the idea.)

So the only reason I have any interest in the ZG instance is to finally be reunited with my hatchling. (Good carrot-dangling tactic, Blizzard *grins*) I know it may sound silly to some, but we all have different interests and goals in games.
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#20 Feb 27 2012 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
xNocturnalSunx wrote:
Usually after all of my encounters with GMs, I get an email to fill out a survey for that specific GM. Did you not get any? Seems kind of weird that you didn't, unless they changed their procedures.


As far as I know, every time a GM touches your account, there is a chance of that survey being generated and sent to you. So, while likely you'll get it, especially if interacting with the GMs often, it's not guaranteed.
#21 Feb 28 2012 at 6:46 AM Rating: Good
IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
xNocturnalSunx wrote:
Usually after all of my encounters with GMs, I get an email to fill out a survey for that specific GM. Did you not get any? Seems kind of weird that you didn't, unless they changed their procedures.


As far as I know, every time a GM touches your account, there is a chance of that survey being generated and sent to you. So, while likely you'll get it, especially if interacting with the GMs often, it's not guaranteed.


Good to know! I wasn't sure since after each one they'll sometimes either just send the email to me to take their survey or after our conversation they'll mention that they'd like me to participate in a short survey to evaluate their customer service. Luckily *knock on wood* I've had awesome and helpful GMs.
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