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#52 Mar 06 2012 at 4:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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MrNational, you're welcome to discuss the ideas of buying gold and botting and whether they are wrong or not, but keep any discussion on a purely theoretical level.
I think the above is true only for certain values of welcome.
#53REDACTED, Posted: Mar 06 2012 at 8:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That actually was on CNN back in 2002. Either way...... Used or recycled its still sick... http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/hairband.asp here is the link from SNOPES and also on the bottom showing where in 2002 where the story came from not that 2008 chain mail you posted.
#54 Mar 06 2012 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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DarkPoet2011 wrote:
long quote...


Isn't D3 going to be F2P?

So in other words, it's a completely different economic dynamic from that of WoW.

And as someone else pointed out, there is no question of "fairness" involved in Blizzard not allowing 3rd parties to sell in-game currency. It isn't a democracy. It's Blizzard's intellectual and financial property.

#55 Mar 06 2012 at 8:57 AM Rating: Good
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So yes buying gold IS BAD but no amount of complaining on any forum is going to change it and no amount of legal action is as well. Yes you take the risk of your account being Banned as it SHOULD BE, but that risk is up to the USER to take and not some keyboard typing geeks on a website who get a hard on for this kinda stuff.

Ahh, the "you guys must all be geeks with hardons and I'm not!" argument that retards with no solid footing use. I wondered how long it would take for this to be used.

Apart from that, you seem to be assuming that anyone here has claimed that they will personally stamp out all gold buying/power leveling, etc. Nobody has. You've just admitted in that quote that buying gold is an illegal action and bad to do. You've also said that you think people doing it should be banned from the game. So, aren't you done? Why are you still talking? It's like you came into the forum saying that police make too much of a big deal about theft and that it's not so bad, then people here stated reasons why it's illegal and not to be supported and then you said, "of course it's bad!! But that's a risk that thieves take and it's not up to you little losers at home!!!oneoneeleven!"

I mean, you're drawing on a wholly different argument - about whether we should individually go out and make citizens arrests of the WoW gold buyers. And that's ... Not what anyone was talking about. It sounds like you've backtracked to admitting you agree with everyone that it's bad but still felt the need to kick up a stink about something and, so, used the "keyboard typing geeks" phrase, as if you being here differs from us. You're like a person dressed as a Star Trek character at a Sci-Fi convention, who looks over at a person dressed up as Chewbacca and says, "pfft! Look at that nerd!"


Edited, Mar 7th 2012 12:59am by Smallsword
#56 Mar 06 2012 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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It's Blizzard's intellectual and financial property.


Shhh. He's still confused about Blizzard and Activision, don't confuse him more ... and don't let him know about Ten Cent and ZAM.
#57REDACTED, Posted: Mar 06 2012 at 5:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yes the SERVER's are and the Game rights are. BUT what is stopping me once I purchase a game to pay someone else to level a character for me other then ToS? I mean what right does a company have to tell anyone what they can and can't do with their money?!
#58 Mar 06 2012 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
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Just... just thought I'd point that out. Smiley: um
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#59 Mar 06 2012 at 7:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ultimately? They have the same right that you have if you tell me not to **** in the corner of your apartment if you've invited me in for a cup of coffee. The space is yours, but the need to **** is mine. Why can you tell me not to do it? Because it is your apartment and I'm a guest.

In the case of World of Warcraft, perhaps even more than most computer games, you didn't buy a game. You thought you did? You didn't read the various restrictions and disclaimers carefully. You bought a right to participate in an activity hosted by Blizzard on their servers and the tools that allow you to do it.

With that said, contracts (even click wrap) are private law between the parties. Click wrap contracts may have their own peculiarities that can be attacked, but they have generally been held valid. As "law" they are no more and no less effective than any other law. A law against murder doesn't prevent murders, they happen all the time; however, the law does define murder and defines the potential consequences of ignoring the law. Blizzard's EULA/ToS do the same. They can't come to Hackme Enterprises and jerk the keyboard out of Wiley's hands, but they can ban your account if you hire him to power level you. This is in accordance with the pissing in the corner example. Even if I do successfully **** in the corner of your apartment, it is your apartment and you have a right to ask me to leave and never return.

Nothing is stopping you, but what should be stopping you is your integrity and your respect for fellow players who have also paid to enjoy a particular experience. If that is lost on you, feel free to abandon the discussion and stop pissing in the corner.
#60 Mar 07 2012 at 9:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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CaptinXeith wrote:
I'm going to bring up a point in this discussion that probably doesn't mean much to a lot of people, but means a lot to me and is a big part of why I would never buy gold, bot, hack, or anything like that. Integrity. To me doing anything like that would completely ruin the integrity of the game and completely devalue any sort of accomplishment I feel in the game. I play the game to have the best gear, dps, achievements, mounts, and whatever else. It's not because I want to feel like I'm better than anyone else, it's just because that what I find fun.

I could never feel that sense of accomplishment if I knew in my mind it felt tainted. With how many people do cheat and buy gold this point may not mean much, but to me it means a lot. In an MMO keeping a sense of morals and ethics should mean something.


This is one of the best posts I've read in a long time and I totally agree. Keeping a sense of morals and ethics should mean something...in life as well as in an MMO.
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