The Dragon Soul Nerfs are nighFollow

I can see what you are saying about the mainhand blah blah blah... but, you can now down that boss, get the fight down, then turn the volume back up. I don't see what the problem is.

I actually agree that heroic should not have the buff.

I'll never do heroic, Hell, it'll be 2 months before we even enter regular DS as it's a new raiding guild and we are getting used to each other trying to clear FL (very casual new guild), but by not giving heroic the buffs, it will stay more heroic for those players, and they won't have to cry on the o-boards about how casuals are ruining their game.

@Moonkissed: Artificially making an encounter harder than it could be, in my eyes is always taking away from the experience. That's what my argument in this respect boils down to.
I have no problem with the Raidfinder giving easy access to 384 loot for everyone. I have a slight problem with how easy some of the DS bosses were in normal mode, but I can live with that because there are always the HC versions to knock our heads against. But nerfing them althought there are 2 easier modes already in the game? I just don't get it.

@RAWDEAL: Yes a little help for some roadblock encounters on normal mode would have been absolutely okay. I have no idea which bosses function as those but I would guess Ultraxion is among them. Fine, tune him a bit easier in normal mode. Tune the one or two other bosses that are giving many raiders headaches a bit down in normal mode, too.
But an across-the-board nerf to each and every encounter? That's overkill. And it's damned lazy design too!
"Oh people have problems with 3 out of our 16 encounter. Let's nerf all 16 LOL." wth...

@Proteinguy: As I understand it, LFR is mainly there to give people access to raiding who due to limited play time or an irregular schedule couldn't raid the "old" way. The fact that it is easier is mainly to compensate that LFR works (mostly) without voice communication, has 25 people who don't know each others playstyle and so on.

That's why nerfs for normal mode were to be expected, as were nerfs to certain HC mode mechanics if those proved to be too hard in the long run. But so early? And every fight? Even Morchok normal mode which is laughably easy?

I'm not angry but it could have been handled better.
Okay it could have been worse too (-> FL) but that's not the point.

It is very hard to convince players too not have the buff when it’s available, especially after couples of wipes. Drama is coming your way for sure.

Applying it to heroic was questionable, but overall I think its a good idea. LFR is a joke. It really shouldn't even be called raiding. Its like a battleground except you fight a mindless computer. A plethora of my guildies who are about as casual as you can get all think that LFR is way too easy. For those of us who would actually like to do a real raid, this is a welcome change. Mechanics will remain unnerfed, but it'll give a boost to those who might not be the best... encounters won't be trivialized like they are in LFR, but they will be easier.

As for "casuals ruining" the game. That's just a load of crap. If you are a hardcore raider and want full difficulty you can turn it off. Your precious challenge remains intact. Firelands on the other hand kept getting systematically nerfed and there was NO option to turn off those nerfs.

I like the "option nerf". I'm all for making things more accessible and easier to a wider audience, as long as those of us who like it to be harder aren't forced into it. Its a video game. Its suppose to be played and its suppose to be enjoyed. As long as everyone has options then I really don't care how someone else decides to play the game.

LFR mode gives a 3rd "easy" difficulty level now right? That's a reasonable minimum level of difficulty for DS, and really, everyone can see the content there. The "everyone not seeing the content" argument goes out the window.

Oh, a large number of people get c*ckblocked on a particular fight? Oh em gee, retune it then, durr.

Buff is completely unnecessary.

They're doing it perfectly right this time. Nerfing 5% per month means that it'll take half a year until the usual 30% would in effect. If they even go that far remains to be seen. Each month brings us a little closer to the MoP release, and Dragon Soul as it is now becomes completely off balance anyway a good while before that, with the realease of the 5.x patch that'll twist and bend each and every talent tree.

Since you can turn the whole nerf off and continue as before, I don't see any problem with it at all. It is simply a matter of discipline, and it has been like this pretty much since computer gaming became popular decades ago. There have always been cheat codes, be that for extra lives, currency, godmode, and whatever else. It has been completely up to the player whether or not to use those.

The only difference is now that the cheat will be enabled as default setting and would have to be turned off. Other than that it's the same damn thing as it has always been.

It's an ego issue, really. If you haven't completed 8/8 heroic before January 31, you're a scrub. That's what the seemingly early nerf to both modes implies to some people, and I guess you'll just have to get over it.

I think it's plain awesome, really. It adds an extra difficulty level, because you can actually choose whether to do a boss on normal mode, heroic mode, with nerf, or without.

If you and your guild are at like 5/8 or 6/8 for example, you'll get to your progression fight 5% faster, which in turn gives you more time on the boss(es) that is (are) still important rather than wasting it on farm content.

So yeah... cry me a river while I'm looking forward to being able to use my precious time more efficiently.

Sigh. I'm old. I really don't get the whole "achievement" thing, but then I didn't really get into collecting merit badges either. Isn't the point to accomplish something rather than to get another +10 achievement points?

Why do you have to wait until your parents are asleep to play? Do you do it in secret or something? Just curious.

They are probably expecting you to find a job instead of wasting life on video games and forums, grats on your 7k post BTW.

I'd of preferred they didn't buff/nerf the content at this time.

The main reason for them doing that is to increase access to the content. With the advent of LFR that reason is no longer an issue.

I don't see an issue if people are stuck on bosses now, it simply means they need to farm the regular/heroic/LFR bosses more. Heck, just being able to farm LFR to get full ~384 gear and massive amounts of VP should be more than enough to get the gear to get over the hump.

tl,dr : Horse no like nerfs