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#27 Jan 25 2012 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
Did you actually try it? 'Cause you know, Wowhead is never wrong or anything... I distinctly remember being 75 when I got that quest, because I wasn't able to get a few of the quests at that level, I had to ding 76 to get those.

I might be wrong on the breadcrumb quest, but you CAN do the majority of the quests at Nesingwary Camp at 75.

Edited, Jan 25th 2012 10:57am by PigtailsOfDoom

Wrong again http://www.wowwiki.com/Sholazar_Basin_quests

I was mining at 75 in Sholozar with no quests available, that's why i went to Hyjal.
#28 Jan 25 2012 at 1:11 PM Rating: Good
I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore. I guess I'll have just to get my shaman up a couple levels and take screen shots or something to prove it to you.
#29 Jan 25 2012 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore. I guess I'll have just to get my shaman up a couple levels and take screen shots or something to prove it to you.
I give up drinking and promise to be a good boy, you make it very hard for me. So i'm looking foward to see the pictures.

http://www.wowhead.com/zone=3711/sholazar-basin#quests:0+1+2
#30 Jan 25 2012 at 3:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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As much as it hurts to agree with Raw, my paladin just hit 76 last night and until then, the mage dude at Krasus' Landing had a grey ! above his head.
#31 Jan 25 2012 at 4:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Tellaria wrote:
As much as it hurts to agree with Raw, my paladin just hit 76 last night and until then, the mage dude at Krasus' Landing had a grey ! above his head.

I'm in Sholazar now, and all the quest-givers have a grey (!) for my level 75 Mage. I checked at both Nesigwary Base Camp and River's Heart.
#32 Jan 26 2012 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
Just did this http://www.wowhead.com/quest=25157 for free exp and token, must be the easiest daily quest ever!
#33 Jan 26 2012 at 8:47 PM Rating: Good
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"When it comes to grinding out mobs which are 5 levels higher than you, and questing in a level appropriate zone, you are going to level significantly faster questing in a level appropriate zone."

This is opinion, not fact.

#34 Jan 26 2012 at 9:06 PM Rating: Good
I agree, but now at level 78 with 31000 hp unbuff and an insane amounts of agility, i do feel like Superman in Northrend. In Hyjal, i am now level 525 in mining, 500 in Jc and got green Cata to make me invisible. I did 3000 gold of selling gems in AH, i do think this is a fun way to break up monotony from questing by vacationing in Hyjal.

I just wish we could unlock quests for higher level with all the BOA and Cata gears available.
#35 Jan 28 2012 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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"When it comes to grinding out mobs which are 5 levels higher than you, and questing in a level appropriate zone, you are going to level significantly faster questing in a level appropriate zone."

This is opinion, not fact.


One does not exclude the other. I'm assuming you possess the evidence to support your own opinion? Otherwise your opinion would not be a fact either.
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#36 Jan 28 2012 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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For solo gameplay one should aim for green to yellow quests in an area where there is minimal downtime to get from quest giver to quest item if you want to maximize the speed at which you gain levels. Also run each dungeon to complete the quests in there.

What Rawr is talking about though is not maximizing his experience gain. He is just mentioning an alternative to leveling the traditional way that he finds enjoyable. To which I say "Awesome, glad to hear it". Smiley: nod I know I leveled my paladin (back in October) primarily through archeology from 25-80ish with the occasional dungeon. Was it slow? Slower than questing yeah but I was still leveling faster than several of my guildies. Was I enjoying it? For some reason I was having a blast.

At the end of the day though that is the key note that we should all remember. Is our actions in the game causing us to have fun? If the answer is yes then **** on everyone else that thinks otherwise.

Unless of course that our actions are detrimental to other people having fun. But I doubt any of us act that way.
#37 Jan 28 2012 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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What Rawr is talking about though is not maximizing his experience gain. He is just mentioning an alternative to leveling the traditional way that he finds enjoyable. To which I say "Awesome, glad to hear it".
Well I changed strategy and moved to Deepholm, a guildy summon me and the goal was...JC Trinkets drops.

I started to grind Mercurial ooze and troggs and it took 45 mins to have 3 of them including the 2 Tanking one. I ding 79 and went back to Hyjal for more Mining and green Cata drops, then I met Blazewing (rare elite) and it drops me BOE leather pant lvl 346. I just had to interrupt "wingbuffet" and it was an easy kill. I sold 14 cata greens, gems and cloth for staggering amounts of gold. This was fun and would do it again on other alts.
#38 Jan 28 2012 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
Mazra wrote:
Labiarinth wrote:
"When it comes to grinding out mobs which are 5 levels higher than you, and questing in a level appropriate zone, you are going to level significantly faster questing in a level appropriate zone."

This is opinion, not fact.


One does not exclude the other. I'm assuming you possess the evidence to support your own opinion? Otherwise your opinion would not be a fact either.


Thank you Maz.

I know it isn't popular here to purchase leveling guides, but I will admit that I have done so. Now, I'm not trying to advertise for Dugi, so don't get your panties in a bunch, okay? He's done extensive research over the years into the fastest way to level, and he puts a lot of time and energy into his product. He has come to the conclusion which I stated earlier, that the fastest way to level, is to do dungeon quests. After that, it is questing in level appropriate zones. Sure, he's selling a product and all, but you don't have to buy his guides to take advantage of the faster leveling speeds. So, that would be my "evidence."

And Rawr, you can go ahead and quote me in your sig all you want. If you're doing that because you think I'm going to try and back track what I said later, you're an idiot. Unlike some people, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. When I actually have a functioning mouse again and can play WoW, I will be leveling my shaman to see if I am remembering correctly.
#39 Jan 28 2012 at 2:39 PM Rating: Decent
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And Rawr, you can go ahead and quote me in your sig all you want. If you're doing that because you think I'm going to try and back track what I said later, you're an idiot. Unlike some people, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong.
I was laughing so hard at your answers, i had too put it in my sig. But if you want me to take it off i will.

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It's funny (PigtailsOfDoom) that you're 'calling me out' on this when most of your posts in this forum are oot. I suppose you post them here because they're too vacuous
#40 Jan 28 2012 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
If I wanted you to take it down, I would have said so.
#41 Jan 28 2012 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
I changed it, this one is hilarious also.
#42 Jan 28 2012 at 10:44 PM Rating: Good
You're right, that one is much funnier. Smiley: wink
#43 Jan 29 2012 at 6:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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He has come to the conclusion which I stated earlier, that the fastest way to level, is to do dungeon quests. After that, it is questing in level appropriate zones. Sure, he's selling a product and all, but you don't have to buy his guides to take advantage of the faster leveling speeds. So, that would be my "evidence."


Jame's guide (which is free) also mentions that the highest xp/hour is achieved by doing quests in a certain order (which is what his guide is all about), not by grinding away on mobs above your own level.

Mobs five levels above you have increased mitigation and health, and they hit harder, increasing your downtime. This is amplified greatly if you grind expansion content from a level below that expansion (e.g. grinding mobs in Northrend at level 65).

I'd say the current way to achieve maximum xp/hour would be to run quests while queued up for dungeons. The dungeon bonus coupled with the high kills/hour and the efficiency of doing quests while grinding mobs (most quests require you to grind mobs) would undoubtedly provide more experience per hour than just killing stuff that takes longer to kill. That's been my personal experience throughout the years, anyway, as I always try the grind route when a new expansion is released and it hasn't paid off yet.

Now, grinding mobs above your own level obviously have some benefits, such as the items they drop which can usually be sold for more gold than the items from the previous expansion, and can provide you with some early upgrades. Those early upgrades, however, would increase your xp/hour by a lot more if you went back to doing level appropriate content as you'd effectively "out-gear" it.

In the end, though, it's all about preference. Some don't mind grinding away on stuff, some don't mind it if they gain something from it and others, like me, are tired of mindless grinding and want a more efficient way to the level cap.

Play the game the way you want to play it.
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#44 Jan 31 2012 at 6:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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It would be too annoying to "prove" what the fastest way to level is. If you had X number of methods that you wanted to compare, you'd have to level X number of characters of each class and spec and compare how long it took you. No thanks. Not only would it take FOREVER, you might also get different results for different classes and specs. And even then, someone could claim that your particular play style or gear or whatever was affecting the results.

All that being said, there have been times when for one reason or another I ground a lot of mobs when leveling tanking characters. To me it didn't seem any slower than questing. If there's an area with plenty of mobs (enough where you don't have to wait for them to respawn or travel much between groups) it's quick experience. You don't have to go back and forth anywhere to pick up or turn in quests... just kill, kill, kill.

And just suppose that under certain circumstances it really is faster (or just as fast) to level by grinding mobs. Do you think that the people trying to sell their leveling guides would mention that?

#45 Jan 31 2012 at 7:12 PM Rating: Good
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I'm pretty positive a free leveling guide would mention if killing stuff was suddenly more efficient than killing stuff while completing quests.

Jame's guide used to have some "kill mobs or run dungeons until you ding" sections in it. Not because it was more efficient than doing quests, but because you ran out of quests to do in a zone back then. This was before Cataclysm and the zone revamp. Sometimes you just ran out of quests to do until your level increased enough to unlock new ones.
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