My Petition for Multi-SpecFollow

With the changes to the talent trees coming in MoP, I don't see Blizz offering more than the two specs already available. Talents will, last I heard, be changeable the same way we currently swap glyphs. Spec #3 and 4 (for Druids) would be useful, and I would gladly pay 10k for the option to have a 3rd spec on my Druid (and maybe my priest).

I'd kill for tri-spec.

Anyone.`Everyone?

It would be the only reason for me to go anything other than Feral in MoP. The way they're chopping up that spec, I need to go Feral/Feral to do anything.

So, um...

A bit tired of that line of conversation, huh?

/yawn Predictable. Post more then, the fluffy ones are making me tired. You can't actually post anything except complaints because you've rendered yourself irrelevant.





Yep, it's just me. Now be a good boy and go tell them that you used to be l33T in TBC.

Oh snap!

In all seriousness though, I think bodhi has a fair point in respect to the recycled content. I don't recall ever hearing or reading people asking for SFK, Deadmines, or ZG to be remodeled and turned into heroic dungeons. Or for ZA to be turned into a heroic either. I totally get why SFK was remodeled, due to the Worgens being introduced and the whole "Sons of Arugal" thing being resolved or whatever you want to call it. The rest though, I don't really see the point.

Rag I didn't really have a problem with, although I'll admit I don't get why Deathwing would recruit him as an ally or how he brought Rag back to life. But the fight was vastly different than it was in MC, so no big deal to me. I also don't mind the reusing of Wyrmrest Temple in DS, because it makes sense to me that we would fight Deathwing in the sanctuary of the dragons. He wants to destroy all life, what better way to do that then to attack the other dragon aspects and destroy the planet's guardians?

How do you know you are much better at the game than him? Or do you just assume you are much better than everyone until proven otherwise?

You plebes have a greater chance of staring down the Sun than you do have of ever grasping in your tiny simian brain cases the indefatigable, unrelenting and unapologetic level of skill I bring to the game every time I log on.

It's not that I assume that I am better than him as much as it is a bone sure knowledge of my own excellence.


/playing it up

Bodhi definitely plays the game better than I do, for a particular value of "better". Granted, I rather hope that a young buck of almost any stripe plays the game better than a guy in his 50s with bad eyes and a number of injuries that interfere with game play. Game design? I was doing that when he thought bewbs were just for breakfast.

His error lies in a combination of assuming that youthful reflexes render his opinion somehow more valid than mine -- they don't -- and not knowing when to stop beating a dead horse. Those who agree with him already agree and those who don't have already heard it. The guy complaining about his ex wife may well have some valid points, but the same complaint trotted out too frequently just becomes an annoying background hum.

Recycling content is part of game design and in a broader context it is part of marketing. Marketing? Yep, look at the state movies are in. Game design? The art department churns out elements that get placed, there is some room to dress things up differently but there is a reason we keep killing pigs.

In theory the "world" of Warcraft is just that, a finite and explorable world with a history. I'm OK with MoP, but from a design perspective, if I were to nit-pick, my complaint would be: just how many more times are we going to be able to pull the "oops, here's another whole continent that got overlooked" ploy. The designers have to keep coming up with ways to make the last N expansions worth of material hang together, while continually finding ways to come up with something for us to fight that is by some miracle even bigger and badder than the last "biggest and baddest" thing they threw at us. They are stuck having to somehow pay homage to lore as they do that. They can just keep randomly pulling new villains out of their asses, or the villains find some way back. While long term players that aren't interested in rehashing the 1-cap experience may not be excited by the latter, subscribers are not always people who have played the game 20 hours per week for seven years. Redoing staples of the game, Deadmines for example, and then adding a heroic mode for those who have been the "been there, done that, got the T-shirt" players is one way to keep some kind of balance.

I can't speak for the realm composition on NA/EU servers, but over here the majority of players are young guys. They tend to play through high school and college, then they go out and their lives start to get complicated by work and girls and they drift away, to be replaced by the next round. Very rarely do "ZOMG, WOW is dying" posts address things like reports of strong losses in Asia, but that is also part of the player base. Bodhi speaks with absolute belief that he is an expert ... in about half of Blizzard's existing market. For our market, making the game more accessible for new players and possibly adding some content that is able to compete more directly with the local MMOs is probably more important that trying to satisfy the handful of veteran players whose idea of "raiding" is going to be to invade the local KTV and get blind drunk on horrible concoctions like expensive brandy mixed with bottled iced tea.

Bewbs! They're not just for breakfast anymore!

Yep, it says that you really don't have any way to respond to an argument outside of your usual recitations so you have to fall back on ad hominem. I accept your submission.

I think part of the "difference" is how long y'all have been playing.
Bhodi's been around, done that SEEN it and beat much of it... 6/7 of the latest HM apparently from this thread... been around since vanilla?
Rhode... not sure when he started, but I know EYE started when BC was fairly fresh... but I'll move this to personally instead of placing it on Rhode
I think I started in January (for BC) so that put me out what 2 months from launch if it was a November? When Naxx came out in LK it was new. All you old'timers (long time players not ageism here :P) it was rehashed / redone / OLD content... for those that are newer to the game, it was new, something different...
There's still content I haven't seen despite playing since BC because by the time I get around to being ready for something, there's a new patch out and it's the ONLY thing that gets focused on... oooh new content... I feel the same way about commercial radio stations... they get a new song and play it to death so you never want to hear it again... y'all do the same thing with WOW content, ooh new... play play play run only that thing until you're sick of seeing it, those coming up behind... it's new and fresh for us, not OUR fault that you ran it umpteen times to your own detriment... we still get to enjoy it. Not everyone has been playing for 7 years or run every little thing that's been released 1000 times.
Vastly different perspectives in the game / same world... some play wow solely for PVP, they have to level.. ok well you can do that in PVP now so... they don't have to level just to get to the biggest group for battling, some do it for achievements... neither is "Right" neither is wrong :P
I play to have fun, and I do, in my way. Which certainly isn't pushing server firsts :)

Also ETA - so who do you cater to, the guys that have been here for the 7 years playing everything thrown to them, that are getting bored aka not playing wow but on other games because there's nothing new, it's all recycled? or the new comers who hear about it from friends and knowing that you can hop on wow and accomplish something in little time, may feel like they can catch up and do something in not too long a time

Edited, Jan 25th 2012 1:22am by Gwenorgan

If you change your petition to "I'm willing to pay $10 for trispec" instead of 10,000 gold you might get Blizzard's attention

So we have a "I meant to do it all along" followed by a weak attempt at trying to say you have a better life.

I thought I was supposed to be the troll, dang....