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#1 Jan 06 2012 at 11:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I now have two toons at level 20 in the free trial and think I'm getting hooked on WoW. I'm especially enjoying my human Paladin. Thus far I've only soloed with a tiny bit of duoing here and there. My question is re: a different UI. What I am specifically looking for is one where the casting "gems" so to speak are arranged vertically along the left side of the screen like EQ. I know there are likely a lot of great UIs, but can anyone recommend one similar to the above?

Also, I've tried to install a couple of add ons and never got them to work, although I followed the instructions; even installed the "Curse" automatic downloader. What I was trying to get was a simple add on that displayed co-ordinate numbers on my mini-map. Any recommendations for that would also be greatly appreciated as well as instructions for a WoW rookie. Smiley: grin

Pretty sure I'm going to purchase game. Will be interesting to experience it post-level 20.
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#2 Jan 07 2012 at 12:34 AM Rating: Good
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Not sure about the casting 'gems' that you refer to... you mean hotkey buttons?

Hit the Escape Key.
Click "Interface".
Click "Action Bars" on the left.
Click the "Right Bar" button, put a check in it.
Click Okay.
Close the windows.

You should now have a row of buttons on the right side of the screen... oh wait, you said LEFT side. Uhhhhh yeah you need an addon to do that lol. I assume you're referring to a Horizons/Istaria type game (EQ is very similar I've seen from screenshots).... lots of addons let you move your hotkey bars around, not sure about that.

Anyways, I Do know the answer to the addon question, though:

The addon you downloaded may have been out of date. When you're in the Log In screen (where you see your character standing there), click the AddOns button. Put a check in "Load out of date addons".

Assuming you put the addon in the right place, it should work (unless the out of date addon is broken).

Also, a lot of addons require you to actually activate them in-game, go to the Interface menu as I described above, but this time, click the AddOns tab if it is there. Sometimes you have to play with those settings to get it to show up in-game.

Some of them have text commands (Recount does this, you have to type /recount show to get the recount window to pop on-screen sometimes).

Edited, Jan 7th 2012 1:38am by Lyrailis
#3 Jan 07 2012 at 1:44 AM Rating: Good
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You may want to avoid putting things on the left side of the screen. That's the default position for people in your group when you start doing things like dungeons and raids.

Any addon you download should be compatible with patch 4.3. The latest patch version seems to have broken several of the earlier addons. I'm not sure if using the trial version of the game might not have some influence on how well your addons function. If I recall correctly, it is a truncated version of the game since it only has to support a limited level range.

#4 Jan 07 2012 at 8:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thank you both for your responses. The instructions helped a lot as I'm still getting used to the WoW interface. I didn't even think of the trial version maybe not working with add ons - that makes sense.

As far as the word "gems" - I was using that to refer to the EQ default UI of having the spell location set up vertically on the left-hand side of the screen vs the WoW default of the the spells being on the bottom. Since I am so used to having the spells in that location I thought it might make it easier/faster for me when/if I group. But now I do recall the group info is on the top left of the screen. Hmmmm...wonder if a different add on could change that as well.

At any rate, this does answer my basic questions atm. When I get the full version of the game I'll check out some different UIs then. Smiley: smile
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#5 Jan 07 2012 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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If memory serves me correctly you can move practically any part of the Blizzard UI anywhere you want in the screen. If I hop back on later I will check it out and verify/put instructions on how to play with it.

On a side note Xpearl and Pitbull are both unit frame addons that you can download. Xpearl is a lot easier to set up than Pitbull but Pitbull has quite a few more customizable options. I always went with Bartender with my action bars. Lately though I haven't really gotten into raiding (what with being in and out of the game) so I have been sticking with the default UI for now.


Edit: Hmm maybe not. I might have been thinking of Rift for a moment there. Sorry. Smiley: frown

Edited, Jan 7th 2012 10:42am by Criminy
#6 Jan 07 2012 at 9:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Criminy wrote:
If memory serves me correctly you can move practically any part of the Blizzard UI anywhere you want in the screen. If I hop back on later I will check it out and verify/put instructions on how to play with it.

On a side note Xpearl and Pitbull are both unit frame addons that you can download. Xpearl is a lot easier to set up than Pitbull but Pitbull has quite a few more customizable options. I always went with Bartender with my action bars. Lately though I haven't really gotten into raiding (what with being in and out of the game) so I have been sticking with the default UI for now.


Edit: Hmm maybe not. I might have been thinking of Rift for a moment there. Sorry. Smiley: frown

Edited, Jan 7th 2012 10:42am by Criminy

Most of the Blizzard stuff is locked in place by default, but you can get an add-on like MoveAnything that will let you, well, move anything. Add-ons like Dominos, BarTender, XPerl, PitBull, etc will create new UI elements, hide the old ones, and let you move them, re-shape them, and rearrange them.

You can also look for total UI packages that will either be compilations of other add-ons with some pre-loaded settings, or be total customized UIs.
#7 Jan 07 2012 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd suggest browsing some of the UI packages at Wow Interface, if you don't want to build your own.

http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat28.html
#8 Jan 07 2012 at 2:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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You may want to get Addon Manager too.
It allows you to turn add ons on or off without needing to log out...and only needing to reload the UI.
Good for finding a recalcitrant add on that's either buggy or really wonky.
#9 Jan 11 2012 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thank you all so very much for the great suggestions and websites. Smiley: smile

Due to a combination of, imo, Blizzard not being real clear how to convert the trial version to purchased, plus my own stupidity, I'm in the process of downloading the game for the THIRD time (including the trial). Ah well, I had an hour or so of fun play time yesterday before the server restart which set my "stupid" in action. The current dl will be completed soon and I learned some valuable info about how Blizzard deals with expacs as well as reading up on my class, skills, professions, and of course all the great posting here.
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#10 Jan 16 2012 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
As you get more into customizing your addons and updating the game, give some thought to backing up the wow directory. I use some directory syncing utilities to backup my entire wow directory to another disk on my network daily and weekly. I can restore back to an earlier version easily, either the entire directory, or just the addons.

Wow is nice in that you can restore back the folders, make an icon for the Launcher, and you are good to go.
#11 Jan 16 2012 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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Meh, I'd just use the repair tool if the client breaks.

I do recommend doing backups of your old addons while you install new ones, though, since some updates have a tendency to break or drastically change them.

Sure, having a complete copy of the game is nice if you find yourself in a situation where you have to re-install the game, but you can always do a copy then. Unless the computer crashes and burns, of course, in which case having to re-install WoW is likely the least of your concerns.

I don't know. If you've got 26GB of space sitting around, sure, why not. Personally, I could spend those GB on something else. I'm not saying ****, but I'm insinuating it.
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#12 Jan 16 2012 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
I keep a few TB of network storage at the house for image backups of the family pc's and data. Of course, I'm in corporate IT and spend most days recovering from users crashed hard drives or malware infections. At work we still have some pc running Windows 98 on manufacturing test stations, so hardware failure is all too common. So yes, I'm a bit of an extremist when it comes to backup.
#13 Jan 16 2012 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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The Honorable dadanox wrote:
I keep a few TB of network storage at the house for image backups of the family pc's and data. Of course, I'm in corporate IT and spend most days recovering from users crashed hard drives or malware infections. At work we still have some pc running Windows 98 on manufacturing test stations, so hardware failure is all too common. So yes, I'm a bit of an extremist when it comes to backup.

How hard is something like that to set up? I'd love to do that here.
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#14 Jan 17 2012 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
Kastigir wrote:
The Honorable dadanox wrote:
So yes, I'm a bit of an extremist when it comes to backup.

How hard is something like that to set up? I'd love to do that here.


It's not really very hard. If you want to be able to get your pc easily back to a known state including applications and OS, an image backup will do that for you. I use Clonezilla, which is a free, open source imaging program. You create a boot cd from an iso file you can download for it. You can store an image on a second drive on your system, or to a network (specify Samba) share. I have a home NAS (network attached storage) device, but you could share a drive on another pc. Image backups let you easily recover from a total disk failure, or totally messed up system.

If you aren't trying to make an image of your entire drive, but simply have a copy of Wow or your documents and pictures, you will want to copy it to another drive or share. The first time you could drag and drop it. If you are going to keep it updated, a syncing program will copy only the changes, so is very fast. You can even schedule it to happen automatically in Windows Scheduler. Free options include Robocopy, xcopy32, or Microsoft's Synctoy. Personally, I use a paid utility InSync, which I've used for 10 years.

It's good to give some thought to backup before disaster strikes.

Edited, Jan 17th 2012 3:45pm by dadanox
#15 Jan 17 2012 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
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Was talking more about NAS that backing up my system.
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#16 Jan 18 2012 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Generally, if you can make just a little bit of sense out of the terminology, you can have these things up and running in no time.

Can't speak for all devices, obviously, but for a QNAP TS-210 for example, all you need to do is install the hard drive(s), power it up, and then click your way through the configuration wizard thing in your web browser. Takes maybe 10 minutes in total for a basic configuration. Everything beyond that depends on the amount of extra features you want to use.

Edited, Jan 18th 2012 7:59am by Kanngarnix
#17 Jan 18 2012 at 6:17 AM Rating: Good
Kastigir wrote:
Was talking more about NAS that backing up my system.


I have a Buffalo Linkstation. It has two internal disks, and I plugged my External USB disk into its USB expansion port, so it has 3 disks now. It is simple to manage via a web interface. If I was starting over, I'd consider a cheaper NAS controller with removable disks, or all external disks that I supply. There are a lot of choices. I'd check out some user reviews at your favorite online retailers, and read the buyer comments and ratings.
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