Please read if you lack 10k DPS - The good versionFollow

Yeah, you guys are spoiled.

I got into a PUG last night and saw something that I didn't think was possible. We had a hunter doing 4k dps.

This was for the whole 5-man. (The one where you follow Thrall around and end in the Temple fighting the priest/monk guy.)

I didn't think you could do that even just keeping auto-shot on.

I see 3-4k dps every once in a while. Usually a noob with horrible gear (maybe not even for the right class or spec), terrible spec, and a lot of auto-hitting.

~ 1. Gem/enchant/reforge your gear - If you "can't afford" the higher end gems (you cheap ^%@#!) As any other idiot could have figured out, you could get lower end gems temporarily to get something in there - EJ, many other forum threads, and guildmates can help you here... if you can read and understand them - which is doubtful.

~ 2. Learn the most recommended spec and rotation for your class and spec. EJ, many other forum threads, and guildmates can help you here. Noxxic is also another site that can help. Since you couldn't possibly understand the advanced vocabulary (words such as "global cd", "haste", and "red") this information does you no good whatsoever. And by the way, it's already 8:00AM and you're barely even drunk yet. Are you okay?

~ 3. Don't be *&%@#@#&%# stupid. Stop standing in that &^#$@(#@$^#* on the ground that is causing you to die. You may be standing in stuff you can't see clearly, but you are obviously taking damage - that is when your health bar goes down to nothing and you DIE, remember that? You ought to, it happens to you a lot. A real person with a brain would get something called an "addon" that is named "GTFO". And no, this is not about your mother and no one is asking you to leave.

~ 4. Anyone not so inbred would go pick up easy solo-obtainable upgrades that are just waiting for you to walk up to the NPCs and take them. This is stuff like Thrall's Cape, nice pieces of gear the first day of the Molton Front, dailies, etc. It's when you kill monsters and do other quest stuff like that and you get REWARDS of BETTER GEAR. You may have noticed that happening once or twice as you "lvled ur leet tune".

~ 5. DPS while important is secondary to group survival. If you lose dps to do some CC or other utility role that is perfectly right and proper. CC means you make the monster go to sleep or get frozen in a block of ice or stun them or something. You'll never be able to do this successfully, so don't worry about it.

~ 6. Don't expect to get healed. If you do it's a bonus, but the healer is there to keep the tank up and as many others as possible if they are his/her friends. If you take significant damage then you're probably doing something wrong. There's that @#$%^%^ health bar again. You see, if its starting to get small, you need to do something different fast or you will die. Again. As usual.

~ 7. L2Play nub, and doant merry yore cuznz no moar.

~ 8. ? this thingie means you have a question. Try it sometime. Someone might give you an answer, and then you might LEARN SOMETHING.

~ 9. Profit - this is what you would be making if you had a real job or brain or life.

~ 10. !@#($*^#!% you @#$^(#% nub!

If you're a DoT class and mobs die too fast you shouldn't use your DoTs on them.
I'm a shadowpriest and on lowHP mobs I use Mind Spike/Mind Blast.

As a warlock I'm not sure I even have the option. The instant cast dots don't do anything in the time it takes stuff to die and the nukes are all very long cast. It makes me almost like a hunter with no bow. I can Rain of Fire and Hellfire on packs but that isn't always popular

Low dps seems hard to escape except on bosses

Shadowpriests need an entirely different gear set from their healing set. It is extremely similar to a mage set, requiring +17% hit, NO spirit, and LOTS of haste, etc, etc. It infuriates me that some PUGs don't understand that a priest is going to be in transition collecting two entire different gears sets just for PvE. What infuriates me worse is that many PUG players don't appreciate the truly hybrid nature of a shadowpriest, and take into account the constant automatic AOE healing, and the frequent auto-slow-on-mobs that they do, and judge them solely on their DPS. I was kicked from a heroic for "only" doing 11k DPS on average.

No appreciation that we were burning the trash faster and surviving better because I usually had one mob hitting the tank less often, and I was supporting the healer with constant aoe low level heals, without once pausing my DPS to hit a heal spell myself. No appreciation I was mostly in spirit/healing gear, and needed to gear up into mage gear, at which point my DPS would soar.

If you're going to look at a Shadowpriest add their healing stat onto their DPS stat to get a better idea of what they are contributing. And let them collect their DPS "mage" gear.

I must respectfully point out that Haste makes your DOTs tick faster, meaning your entire damage rotation is over faster, meaning you can cast it again in a shorter time for the same amount of damage, that is, your DPS goes up. Secondly, faster ticking DOTS on trash means more of them will have time to go off. Even Mind Flay does the same amount of damage over a shorter discharge, meaning more DPS the more Haste you have.

As for hit capping, each small DOT happens many many times. So if you aren't in Tier 2, and have no +Hit, 17% of your (small!) Dots are going to miss... meaning you still lose 17% of your possible DPS. (Yes, your bigger spells are going to miss less often than a dot, but it will hurt more when they do. Again, by 17% DPS if you have no +hit one way or the other.)

Oh right, it's been too long since I was on my priest regularly. My guild called it out of retirement because they wanted it for raids >.<

Ignore me on hit, I'm a doofus. I thought you meant Armour Tier, not Talent Tier.

The haste stuff still stands though.

Edited, Dec 28th 2011 11:50am by Aripyanfar

Tail's point with haste vs hit is that, since individual spells are almost exclusively DoTs, missing with any individual cast only costs you 1 tick of that DoT. Extra haste will get you more ticks on the DoTs that do hit, so in some(most/all) cases, haste is more valuable.

I just noticed this reading Tails' post. DoTs were changed a while back to keep the duration mostly the same, and get extra ticks from extra haste. As an example, Shadow Word: Pain ticks every 3 seconds and lasts 18 seconds, for a total of 6 ticks. Haste reduced the time between ticks, and the total duration of the DoT up to when you can fit in 1/2 of an extra tick (around 8% spell haste I think), then you get an extra tick and the total duration goes up to around 19.3 seconds. The next break point is, if I remember how haste works off-hand, at 25% haste.