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#1 Dec 13 2011 at 2:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, as much as it pains me to admit it I spent some time looking for a matching outfit last night for my female druid. My guild is mostly women and they kept bugging me that my gear doesn't match and I'm not pretty. My response has always been "I'm a bear, cat, or bird 99.9% of the time so who cares" - but I got bored last night.

Anyways, I found a nice red/black leather 5 piece set - gloves, shoulders, robe, helm, pants. Boots are completely covered so no big deal, can't see the wrists either so no big deal. However, the dang belt I have looks like one of the oversized WWF championship belts and is not red or black. It had to be mogged.

Spend some time digging around a few sites to find a new leather belt that I like the looks of - go and get it (2 runs in a vanilla dungeon) and go to transmog it. Little did I see/know/read the patch notes - but not only does it have to match the equipment type (i.e. leather belt) you have to be able to equip it and the belt I went and got is Rogue only.

So lame. Now if the belt came from a rogue quest that indicated rogues are something like Batman and therefore have awesome utility belts fine...but it drops off dungeon trash, why the hell can't a druid wear it.

So what about moggin has annoyed you?
#2 Dec 13 2011 at 2:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah it seems transmog can be quite the grind. People who have been working on their sets over the last 2 months are completing them finally. Not that it's always tons of work, but waiting for that last green item you want to appear on the AH can take a while, and farming isn't always a viable option with 0.02% world drops or anything.

Don't really have any gripes about it per-se, but yeah the amount of time it can eat up was surprising. Smiley: lol
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#3 Dec 13 2011 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
You wanna know how many times I ran Sethekk yesterday to get the sky-hunter swift boots (green/red hunter Tier 2 set)? 34. I counted. Just need pants/belt/bracers (...meh, not visible anyway) now, they're hiding in heroics so I can't spam em.

Edited, Dec 13th 2011 1:00pm by selebrin
#4 Dec 13 2011 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
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I share your frustration.

For the priest I had no trouble. Since transmog was announced I thought T2 is the way to go, and after a few BWL runs the entire set was made.
Besides, blackrock instances/raids are still my fave so I'm always happy to run there.

For the druid it's a totally different story. Not many are the sets I like, and for now I resolved to stay with the T11 normal set. At least it's blue. I would only like to find some shoulders that fit well (and are blue) as I'm not a big fan of big shoulders.
I agree that 99% of the time we're shapeshifted. A blue eagle would be great, though.

Side note: I know not only tier set can be transmog, but I'm too lazy short of time to think about collecting anything else at the moment.

Edited, Dec 13th 2011 4:15pm by lostraniero
#5 Dec 13 2011 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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aktlingit wrote:
So what about moggin has annoyed you?


That you can't transmogrify 1h weapons with hand requirements.

And it sucks that, due to model scaling issues, no matter what I transmogrify my gear to, it still looks fugly on my Worgen. Tiny staff is tiny.
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#6 Dec 13 2011 at 3:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh and I'm sure some of you have experienced it as well but one of my guildees stated "whatever you want to drop won't drop for you and drops all the time for someone else" - she had been farming the Silver-Thread Robe since moggin was announced. I went to SM and ran it twice and had the robe for her so yeah, her logic seems to fit lol
#7 Dec 13 2011 at 3:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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My guild is mostly women and they kept bugging me that my gear doesn't match and I'm not pretty.


There's a sexist joke in here, but I'm too lazy polite to dig for it right now.
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I find it amazing how many women apparently have computers in the kitchen.
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#11 Dec 13 2011 at 5:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mazra wrote:
aktlingit wrote:
So what about moggin has annoyed you?


That you can't transmogrify 1h weapons with hand requirements.


This is my biggest annoyance too. My paladin is sporting Purple Judgement (like half of the paladins out there) and I wanted a matching sword for my tank set. The two I like best (Blade of the Archmage and Continuum Blade) are both caster swords so they're mainhand. My tanking sword is one hand so I can't use either of them. I ended up using The Black Knight because it's a nice looking, but plain sword and the Windwalk enchant is purple so it looks okay.

I also don't like the weapon type restriction for melee weapons because I prefer swords over axes/maces and the 2hand sword from Dragon Soul is kinda lame.
#12 Dec 13 2011 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
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I also don't like the weapon type restriction for melee weapons because I prefer swords over axes/maces and the 2hand sword from Dragon Soul is kinda lame.


Legendaries should get an exemption from restrictions if you got them before mogging was announced. I earned my Sulfuras and want to show it off but druids don't use maces anymore.

EDIT: by which I mean we can equip them but agi 2-handers are polearms and staves these days.

Edited, Dec 13th 2011 4:18pm by selebrin
#13 Dec 13 2011 at 6:47 PM Rating: Good
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The damn staff is so ugly. Well, not ugly per se, it's just that whenever you equip it, the staff is somehow strapped to your neck instead of your back.

Looks particularly ugly on a male Worgen.
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#14 Dec 13 2011 at 9:20 PM Rating: Good
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I'm actually quite content that they don't allow cross-class transmogging. Certain classes have tended to have certain design styles. The piece you're probably talking about is an old tier belt. Although for that specific piece it may not really matter, its far easier saying "you can only wear stuff your character could equip" then to go piece by piece deciding which ones don't look too "whatever". Its a whole lot easier to just say you can only make yourself look like gear you could actually equip. That's pretty reasonable to me.
#15 Dec 13 2011 at 10:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Tiny staff is tiny.


"I heard if you cut off an extremity it'll regenerate a little bigger. Don't believe it."
#16 Dec 13 2011 at 11:37 PM Rating: Good
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My biggest annoyance with Transmog:

They allow you to Transmog Guns/Bows/Crossbows interchangably, but yet they WON'T allow you to switch an axe for a sword or a mace or vice-versa.

I understand requiring a 2H/1H/MH/OH restriction (some weapons were not designed to be wielded in either hand) but why can't I turn a 2H Sword into a 2H axe, especially since itemization choices absolutely suck *** for 2H Strength users?

We get a sword, a sword, and another sword... probably ANOTHER sword...

I haven't seen an Axe since Deepholm, and I haven't wielded a 2H mace since dinging fresh 80 (Titansteel Destroyer).

Sword Sword Sword Sword.....

They need to mix it up a bit more.
#17 Dec 14 2011 at 3:44 AM Rating: Good
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I understand requiring a 2H/1H/MH/OH restriction (some weapons were not designed to be wielded in either hand) but why can't I turn a 2H Sword into a 2H axe

Because of class restrictions. Shamans can't use swords, paladins can't use daggers, warlocks can't use maces, etc. They can't allow weapon types to switch into other weapon type because you could end up with people using looks of weapons the class can't use. (same reason you can't turn plate into cloth and the like)

Bows/guns/x-bows are exempt from this because all classes that can equip a ranged weapon can use all types so there's no conflict there.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 3:46am by Karlina
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#18 Dec 14 2011 at 5:24 AM Rating: Good
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I've always found the weapon restrictions odd, to be honest.

Why in the hell would a Shaman not be able to wield a sword? Technically, you wield it the same way you wield an axe or mace in this game. I mean, Shaman can wield daggers, some of which are bigger than swords.
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#19 Dec 14 2011 at 6:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:
aktlingit wrote:
So what about moggin has annoyed you?


That you can't transmogrify 1h weapons with hand requirements.

And it sucks that, due to model scaling issues, no matter what I transmogrify my gear to, it still looks fugly on my Worgen. Tiny staff is tiny.


The hand requirement is not only annoying, but for some weapons even toallay frustrating. Take the tanking mace from the first boss in Well of Eternity. Dual-wield tanking is no more, so why couldn't they make the darn thing MH only? The texture on it (the tree stump look) doesn't fit on anything but a druid going for the all natural look, yet you'll find yourself having a really hard time finding yourself something decent for everyone else.

This one was truly an eyesore on my dwarf tankadin, who is wearing the blue/golden Brutal stuff with matching shield (Crest of Lordearon) and Vicious cloak texture. Luckily my blacksmith has a pattern for some blue-ish/golden hammer (Shatterer) that sorta fits everything else.

Then, like Mazra said, there is the scaling. The healer mace from 2nd Well boss looks quite nice actually. Just why in the world do maces on humans have to be so freaking huge? Maybe not so much of a problem for warriors, DKs, and paladins, but for a human priest it just doesn't look right.

Earthwarden. First epic weapon I ever owned. A felt 10 bazillion Steamvault runs to get it. Can't use it for mogging, though, because there just aren't any 2H agility maces around anymore. So one of these days I'm gonna win the roll on Kiril, and I won't be able to turn it into Earthwarden or Squid stick, the only 2 feral druid weapons that are of any significance to me. Yay!

I like the challenge of finding matching set pieces, but it just shouldn't be an impossible task.
#20 Dec 14 2011 at 9:11 AM Rating: Good
Mazra wrote:

That you can't transmogrify 1h weapons with hand requirements.


It took me so long to figure out why the 1-h mace (MH) would not transmog my 1-h mace (any hand).. Hated my life.
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Karlina wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
I understand requiring a 2H/1H/MH/OH restriction (some weapons were not designed to be wielded in either hand) but why can't I turn a 2H Sword into a 2H axe

Because of class restrictions. Shamans can't use swords, paladins can't use daggers, warlocks can't use maces, etc. They can't allow weapon types to switch into other weapon type because you could end up with people using looks of weapons the class can't use. (same reason you can't turn plate into cloth and the like)

Bows/guns/x-bows are exempt from this because all classes that can equip a ranged weapon can use all types so there's no conflict there.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 3:46am by Karlina

That sounds like a good reason except for the fact that there is the requirement that the source for the transmorg has to be equipable so you still wouldn't be able to make your weapon look like something your class can't use.


Edited, Dec 14th 2011 7:44am by morghast
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morghast wrote:
Karlina wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
I understand requiring a 2H/1H/MH/OH restriction (some weapons were not designed to be wielded in either hand) but why can't I turn a 2H Sword into a 2H axe

Because of class restrictions. Shamans can't use swords, paladins can't use daggers, warlocks can't use maces, etc. They can't allow weapon types to switch into other weapon type because you could end up with people using looks of weapons the class can't use. (same reason you can't turn plate into cloth and the like)

Bows/guns/x-bows are exempt from this because all classes that can equip a ranged weapon can use all types so there's no conflict there.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 3:46am by Karlina

That sounds like a good reason except for the fact that there is the requirement that the source for the transmorg has to be equipable so you still wouldn't be able to make your weapon look like something your class can't use.


Edited, Dec 14th 2011 7:44am by morghast


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This.

Blizz's official reason was "We want weapon types to matter".

Eh... okay... so basically you (Blizz I mean) want us all to use 2H swords for the rest of our character's lives, eh?

There are some things I really hate about their development decisions and the pure lack of weapon type choice is one of them. They stick 1-2 weapons of each class (1h strength, 2h strength 1h agility etc) in each tier and shove em down your throat and they tell you "USE THESE AND NOTHING BUT!" and then they give us Transmog which SHOULD have alleviated the "OMG, not another Sword!?!?" and they fail to let it do that. God Forbid a Paladin walk into an instance using a 2H Mace....
#23 Dec 14 2011 at 11:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's fun trying to find a mace, dagger, axe, and fist weapon that all go with your transmog set.

Isn't it?

Right?

Right?!

Smiley: rolleyes


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#24 Dec 14 2011 at 12:19 PM Rating: Default
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Lyrailis wrote:
There are some things I really hate about their development decisions and the pure lack of weapon type choice is one of them. They stick 1-2 weapons of each class (1h strength, 2h strength 1h agility etc) in each tier and shove em down your throat and they tell you "USE THESE AND NOTHING BUT!" and then they give us Transmog which SHOULD have alleviated the "OMG, not another Sword!?!?" and they fail to let it do that. God Forbid a Paladin walk into an instance using a 2H Mace....


Fail to see your point.

Baine in End time drops a 2H axe
Mannoroth in Well of Eternity drops a 2H Mace

Yor'sahj drops a 2H axe
Blackthorn drops a 2H mace

Gurthalak from Madness of Deathwing is the only 2H sword this tier, even counting in the dungeons. Looking at the raid alone, there is exactly one of each. Mace, Axe, Sword, Polearm. I'm calling that fair.

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The biggest joke in this entire transmogrification thing is that every single Enhancement Shaman has been farming those two fists from Mt Hyjal so they could transmogrify to T5 and look badass.

The only fist weapon that drops in the new heroics is main hand, though, so no dice. Thanks for nothing, etc.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 7:52pm by Mazra
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There may be one of each type dropping but there isn't one of each type dropping for each class I think was his complaint.

When is the last time you saw a 2h sword or axe fit for a hunter? The class is obligated to use 2 1h weapons or a polearm/staff. They have the ability to use swords and axes and if the transmog system worked like alot of people expected/wanted a playher could transmog the 2h sword graphic onto their current 2h for a change of pace.


IMO every class should have at least 1 weapon avaiable for each weapon type they use. It shouldn't be a case of your'e a XZY class were only going to make ABC weapon types with your stats.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 3:07pm by xinaskin
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