I'm in the position where I'm starting to consider replacing T12 gear with some higher iLvl stuff.
My tank never got a 4pc T12 Bonus. So effectively it's just a DPS buff that I'm getting from T12. (For reasons unknown to me - Paly Tank 2pc Bonuses in both T11 and T12 were DPS bonuses - not Tank bonuses.) I think that's fairly straight forward. If the Non-Tier stuff has better stats (Tanking) then it should be replaced.
But what about my DPS stuff (Ret, Arcane, Shadow). Is there any way to determine the relative value of having a 2pc bonus vs possibly higher iLvl gear without the bonus?
Example: Arcane. I get a single mirror image. Is it wort replacing that bonus with gear with more INT?
Anyone know a way to measure that sort of thing?
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I do not know if it factors in abilities and such, but askmrrobot.com or other sites like that can give you an overall. As for perfect accuracy, I apologize but I do not know of anything that could do it (short of spreadsheets adn number crunching).
The best thing to do is use a tool like Rawr or SimulationCraft to calculate which would give a bigger dps boost. I know Rawr is great for mages, so I would recommend that.
Borsuk wrote:
Example: Arcane. I get a single mirror image. Is it wort replacing that bonus with gear with more INT?
Anyone know a way to measure that sort of thing?
Anyone know a way to measure that sort of thing?
That said, assuming the MI from that is still an aggressive *******, I'd suggest switching it out anyway.
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Borsuk wrote:
Example: Arcane. I get a single mirror image. Is it wort replacing that bonus with gear with more INT?
Anyone know a way to measure that sort of thing?
Anyone know a way to measure that sort of thing?
That said, assuming the MI from that is still an aggressive @#%^, I'd suggest switching it out anyway.
Hey, at least your set bonuses aren't built around fixing the glaring flaws in your class.
IDrownFish wrote:
Hey, at least your set bonuses aren't built around fixing the glaring flaws in your class.
The gaping flaws in our class are being completely ignored until the next expansion.
Blizzard design, ladies and gentlemen.
IDrownFish wrote:
Hey, at least your set bonuses aren't built around fixing the glaring flaws in your class.
Um, fire and frost would like a word with you? =x I don't know how accurate this is, but I've read up and down the o-boards for mages, that fire does not want to lose the 4 piece of T12 until we get the 4 piece of T13. This sounds fishy to me, but that's what I keep reading. I'm going to wait until I have 2 pieces myself before I test it with Rawr. Although if I'm just going from 378 to 384 I doubt replacing the 4 set bonus for the new 2 set is going to be beneficial.
Wonder Gem PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
IDrownFish wrote:
Hey, at least your set bonuses aren't built around fixing the glaring flaws in your class.
Um, fire and frost would like a word with you? =x I don't know how accurate this is, but I've read up and down the o-boards for mages, that fire does not want to lose the 4 piece of T12 until we get the 4 piece of T13. This sounds fishy to me, but that's what I keep reading. I'm going to wait until I have 2 pieces myself before I test it with Rawr. Although if I'm just going from 378 to 384 I doubt replacing the 4 set bonus for the new 2 set is going to be beneficial.
That's just an issue of the set bonus being flat out too good, as it seems to me that the set bonuses don't fix any specific problem. For Shadow priests, the set bonuses were specifically made as a bandaid for the issues of the class. Namely, Shadow Word: Death, our execute, dealing damage to the priest (possibly killing them on, say, a progression fight) and RNG Shadow Orb generation.
Actually, it does fix a specific problem for fire mages, namely it helps decrease the RNG factor of pyroblast procs. Same with frost and Brain Freeze procs.
Wonder Gem PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
Actually, it does fix a specific problem for fire mages, namely it helps decrease the RNG factor of pyroblast procs. Same with frost and Brain Freeze procs.
For anyone else trying to follow the conversation that, like me, doesn't play a shadow priest or mage...
Mage 4 T12.
Shadow Priest 2 T13.
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