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#1 Oct 31 2011 at 10:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Took a Prot. Warrior to 85. I never thought I'd say that after my experiences in BC. Or after the first 10 levels made we want to Smiley: banghead.

Which brings me another odd observation: I've been strangely addicted to the melee classes this expansion.

I spent the last two expansions playing ranged and healers. Hunter, Druid (boomy/resto), Warlock. Started out with a mage this expansion too, and a Resto Pally, but I've found myself playing more and more melee. The Warrior was a start, then a enhancement shammy, and now a rogue.

I think I've put my finger on it finally, I'm just bored with ranged classes now. Kiting stuff was always fun, but there isn't much of that now. Things were dying before they got to me; which is cool sometimes, but as a whole it gets boring fast. Melee classes on the other hand have me pushing more buttons to kill stuff.

I like pushing more buttons.

Anyway anyone else do something different this expansion they didn't think they'd be doing? Cata taken you in any unexpected directions?

If so, please share. Smiley: flowers
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#2 Oct 31 2011 at 10:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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I went Alliance and completely abandoned my Horde characters.

I had always had Alliance characters I folled around with when Horde got boring, but for the first time this expac I took one to the cap. And then a couple weekends ago I got a second one to the cap.
#3 Oct 31 2011 at 11:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'll be there within days. I am also working on a warrior, which is at about 83.5. I previously thought of warrior as the most hideous class to level. It stems from trying to level one of my first alts way back in early BC. Back then play seemed to involve pull, eat, pull, bandage, pull, eat...and I had the same desire to pound my head against the wall that OP did. Warrior is just so different now. There is still some pain to it, but that stems more from the fact that my main is a druid and my primary alt is a paladin...hybrid classes that can heal themselves. But, yeah, I've been enjoying the warrior. I started it out just to experience the goblin starter area, but stuck with it when it turned out to be more fun than I thought it would be.
#4 Oct 31 2011 at 11:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm kind of the opposite. I've all but abandoned my paladin and DK in favor of my hunter and warlock this expansion.
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#5 Oct 31 2011 at 12:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Went from my Druid to my Shaman as main (eagerly awaiting the day I can return, though). And I'm running out of characters to level up, so I started some Alliance ones...

Yeah.
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#6 Oct 31 2011 at 12:11 PM Rating: Excellent
I have given healing an actual fair shot in a raid setting. I've found that I really don't enjoy it. Healing in heroics is fine, there's less pressure and less people to keep alive. Raiding, it's just too stressful. And if I can't do a good job healing with a resto druid, who are OP right now, I don't think I'm cut out for healing period.

I also leveled my DK to cap and I enjoy her. I'm not very good, but I do okay. Frost is pretty fun, but I'd like to try unholy as well and see how I like that.

In general though, I think I'm always going to be happiest playing a ranged DPS. I still <3 my shadow priest and my frost mage.
#7 Oct 31 2011 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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Some dramatic changes for me.

Absolutely no interest in raiding. I've been tagging along here and there to fill a slot, but that was it so far. Don't know. This whole business of just bringing back old bosses along with apparently requiring much more of a commitment than in WotLK just didn't appeal to me. Hoping that the random raids in 4.3 will change things a bit and open up a small niche for me.

Completely gave up on Ret Pally and Shadow Priest after realizing that I was doing more damage as tank and Atonement Disc Priest (no kidding). This whole new combo point business just doesn't click with me.

Absolutely in love with playing Holy Paladin, which I thought would never happen. It all seems to make sense there. Overcoming the mana issues at the beginning of doing heroics was a bit of a challenge, though.

Finally got 2 max level druids now, nicely split between caster and feral. Now I get to like all 4 specs without having to miss out on 2 of them. No more not having any space in bags or bank either.

So yeah... True cataclysm
#8 Oct 31 2011 at 3:07 PM Rating: Excellent
If you do more dps as a disc priest, than as a shadow priest, you're doing something wrong with the shadow priest. I'm assuming you mean at 85. If it's before that, I just want to remind you that the game isn't balanced for pre-85.
#9 Oct 31 2011 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
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#10 Oct 31 2011 at 3:59 PM Rating: Good
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Bigdaddyjug wrote:
I went Alliance and completely abandoned my Horde characters.


Similar situation for me. Came back at the day of the Cataclysm and started over on a new server Alliance side. Before my break I only played Horde so even without the overhaul of the old world (of Warcraft) it would have been new and exciting.

And this was the first expansion that saw me raiding fo' realz.
Back in the day my only "raiding" experiences were running through Kara with my PvP equiped WL because that pieces had higher Def (/facepalm for myself). This time I had a RL friend around, who happened to be the main cause for my coming back + faction change. Thanks to his effort I now gear, enchant, skill, etc. properly and with my current main, a shadowpriest, are at 6/7 HC and Ragnaros normal down.

All in all I'm pretty satisfied with my progress.
#11 Oct 31 2011 at 4:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Vanilla: Troll Warrior to cap.
TBC: Troll Warrior, Belf Hunter and Belf Pally to cap.
Wrath: Troll DK and Forsaken Rogue to cap.
Cata: Draenei DK to cap and it looks like Nelf Druid will be next.

The Nelf Druid has hit WotLK content and is doing instances as a Boomkin. That makes her my first caster on track for cap. The Draenei DK marks my first Alliance toon to cap.

Overall, I've found Cata progression to be much more enjoyable and I'll probably try to get a pure caster to cap next. Yeah, WOW would be easier if I didn't keep changing servers.
#12 Oct 31 2011 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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I've always preferred melee characters.

They generally have more survivability and you can just go from mob to mob to mob and not have to stop and eat/drink/evocate/innervate/heal and you don't have to worry about "OMG, this other mob started attacking me before I got the first one dead!" etc. You can just beat the first mob down and then move onto the second one and not have to worry. All the melee classes now have good self-heals, easily enough to let them take on 2-3 mobs at once without flinching.

It is a lot harder to do that with ranged characters, and once a mob closes the range, you're reaching for your "get out now" buttons... frost nova, fears, etc.

I always found melee classes to be a lot more relaxing and forgiving game-play. This is doubly so for a tank-spec, it is very hard to die in solo PvE as a tank spec. Very Hard. Sometimes you have to _try_ to die and even then you survive things that would have killed anyone else three times over.

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#13 Oct 31 2011 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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I prefer melee classes as well.

Just a shame Blizzard hates them, though. Smiley: frown
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#14 Oct 31 2011 at 5:06 PM Rating: Excellent
Yes, that's why you all are getting a damage buff in Dragon Soul next patch. Because Blizzard hates you. Smiley: tongue
#15 Oct 31 2011 at 5:09 PM Rating: Good
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Our uptime is still horrible compared to ranged. Not to mention our survival rate.
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#16 Oct 31 2011 at 6:21 PM Rating: Excellent
oh I know. I haven't done extensive raiding on my DK, but enough to know that melee are definitely at a disadvantage. But at least Blizz is trying to do something to rectify the situation, even if it is just a band aid.
#17 Nov 01 2011 at 2:19 AM Rating: Good
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If you do more dps as a disc priest, than as a shadow priest, you're doing something wrong with the shadow priest. I'm assuming you mean at 85. If it's before that, I just want to remind you that the game isn't balanced for pre-85.

The realization came at 83. While it was obviously faster to kill quests things as Shadow, the whole thing just didn't click for me in dungeons. Same thing for Ret Pally, which I abandoned right at 80 after my first trip to Throne of the Tides.

Overall I seem completely disconnected with ranged dps these days. I'm doing perfectly fine with a Survival Hunter, but everything else is just a struggle. Moonkin seems alright, but even there I still need to figure out how to effectively use those shrooms. I suck at playing mage too, but it's just too much fun to throw those big balls of fire around to give up on it. Plus I got an endless supply of cake and people love sheeps... Can't say much about Warlock yet, because at level 63, all I ever seem to be doing is spamming Rain of Fire. Even bosses die so fast in Outland dungeons that they're usually dead before I got a full set of DoTs on them.

I think I'm just a perfect example of things having to feel like 2nd nature in order to function properly. Spreadsheets and simulations are entirely meaningless to me.

#18 Nov 01 2011 at 3:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm doing lots of stuff the same, leveled plenty of alts, geared most of them up for raiding and all but two have done some raid content. I'm working on a few horde characters, but the highest is level 61 so I can't say at this point that it's much different from previous expansions.

My guild is more focused than the one I was in the last few expansions, so I'm actually working on heroic content on my main which is nice.

I've also got more in to multi-boxing than I was previously. Only one of my 85s was leveled on it's own, the others went in pairs. I've also leveled a couple of 5 man groups (highest is 41 at the moment) and that's been really fun, I'm currently waiting to see if I can scroll of res myself (only 15 days to go) and I've been saving so that I can put game time on the other accounts either way. I'm hoping I can get them to level 60 at least, when I'm running dungeons on my alts I keep thinking about how cool they would be to do on my own.

As a slight aside, I tried playing my rogue the other day (I've had this character for about 5 years and she's just dinged level 50) and I can't think of anything I'd like to do less. It's my fault for being assassination spec and accidentally selling one of my daggers, I went to an instance and spent most of the time pressing two buttons (sinister strike and S&D) and watching my energy bar. I dread to think how little dps I did. I've now given her combat as offspec but couldn't face staying on her to try it out. I have a ret pala (ok), enhancement shaman (ok) and feral druid (meh) so I'm doing more on the melee front than I have previously.
#19 Nov 01 2011 at 3:50 AM Rating: Good
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I'm "just OK" with the melee world right now. In raids, it's one thing, but solo and even 5-man content isn't quite right.

It's annoying that my 360ish ilvl mage can 2-3 short most stuff solo for quick and easily dailies while my 360ish paly is stuck running up and proceeding to try and get some kind of "Broken" CS rotation on a mob. I can't maintain Inquisition, but other classes that have a buff like that (Savage Roar) don't need it to solo stuff. (Meaning Savage Roar = Raid/5-Man priority, not something to solo with)


Perhaps it's just the horrible state of Paly DPS. It seems more efficient to pull 2-3 mobs and AOE them down as a tank (I start and end w/ near full health and full mana) than it is to kill 3 mobs as Ret, then burn mana getting back to full HP.
#20 Nov 01 2011 at 6:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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I levelled my first ranged to 85 in Cata, a mage, and just rolled a hunter alt. I think my previous ranged alt, a lock, made it all the way to level 12 so something of an improvement! Still not sure about the hunter long term, something still just feels awkward about it. Only level 22 though so still fairly fresh, and I generally take a long time to really get into a class. On the other hand, I'm just not enjoying my rogue the way I did in wotlk, where she ended up pugging up to better gear than my paladin main.

Paladin is stil the main, and for the first time getting into heroic content - currently 4/7 hc. Raiding as prot although I switch to ret for the one tank fights, and I have to say I don't mind ret dps. Yes there are annoying moments when there doesn't seem to be anything to press, and then the opposite when you have three things you'd like to use at once, but overall I still enjoy it.
#21 Nov 01 2011 at 7:20 AM Rating: Good
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Perhaps it's just the horrible state of Paly DPS.


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Why does Ghostcrawler hate paladins?
A ret paladin killed his parents.


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#22 Nov 01 2011 at 10:05 AM Rating: Good
But that implies a ret pally could actually kill something!
#23 Nov 01 2011 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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But that implies a ret pally could actually kill something!


Not necessarily - they could have been relying on him for healing Smiley: smile

I never have got the hang of Retribution spec. I probably have a about a 2:1 kill ratio. While I'm waiting for an ability to come off cooldown something that would just bounce off my Prot paladin kills me.
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#24 Nov 01 2011 at 12:13 PM Rating: Excellent
Kann, if you'd like some help with your shadow priest, feel free to PM me with what you're doing rotation wise inside dungeons. I'm more than happy to help. Smiley: smile There's also a thread towards the top of the priest forums about shadow that's about two months old or so, but it's still accurate as far as information.

I really need to work on finishing up that shadow sticky.
#25 Nov 01 2011 at 10:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Kann, if you'd like some help with your shadow priest, feel free to PM me with what you're doing rotation wise inside dungeons. I'm more than happy to help. Smiley: smile

Thanks for the offer. I'm pretty sure that one of these days I'm gonna get around to giving the whole thing another try. Might be once 4.3 comes out and the ***-free Cindercloth my priest will be wearing will add some incentive. Right now I'm kinda preoccupied with tanking for our guild dungeon groups. Seeing how we'll be playing 4.3 for a year, though, there seems to be plenty of time...

Oh, and not that I would ever mind some undivided attention, but I'm damn sure that we'll have the priest discussion in the appropriate place so others can learn from it too. Unless of course you have some totally superawesome shadow secrets that you want to share with me in private Smiley: wink
#26 Nov 02 2011 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
Nah, not supersawesome shadow secrets here. Smiley: smile I really enjoy helping people learn their spec, so I'm very open about anything I can do to help people play better. I don't withhold anything.
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