tanks in pvp gear!!Follow

I finished two bags of popcorn reading all this. Good show all good show.

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Edited, Sep 18th 2011 8:06pm by Dorojin

I'm leveling my first Druid healer/range dps. Since I hit the mid-60's all I see is Grand-Marshal's gear. I haven't seen that much of it since BC came out. I will say that BoA gear has really changed leveling. Almost every character in random dungeons is wearing 3 or 4 pieces. I healed on apriest when BC came out and it was never this easy. One weekend and I am one more dungeon away from northrend. So yes, OP PvP can work in dungeons...

That too. We were in the room for the 2nd from last boss. He already knew he had the potential of taking too much damage. Our hunter took the time to mark everything, then proceeded to trap, our mage poly'd, and I think the hunter also wyrven stinged. What does the tank do? Dropped DnD in the middle of it all and ran in.

But he had enough PvP and DPS gear to make him way too hard to keep alive. His health was lower than my warrior who gems mastery/stamina (and she's just in heroic dungeon gear). This guy had no business tanking heroic ZA.

I out and out told him he wasn't ready to tank and that he was hurting the whole group. I asked him to leave so we could find a "real tank". Which is pretty strong language for me...

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In regards to Outland and to a lesser extent Northrend, you can get away with tanking in PvP gear. Especially Outland there is very little gear with tanking stats accessible while leveling. Northrend it becomes far less of an issue as almost every dungeon has quests that give at least one piece of tanking gear and dungeons drop a fair amount of tanking gear. You can still get away with it, but it makes healers work. In Cataclsym dungeons, I would kick any plate wearer trying to tank in mostly PvP.

Edited, Sep 18th 2011 7:24pm by ekaterinodar

Death Knights can't. Or at least I can't solo Slave Pens at level 62. Probably because Death Knights stink survival wise until they get their mastery (at which point they turn OP until heroics and raids).

Its okay. Quality time with your sheep comes first. We understand. ... er o.O

Health is a very overrated stat for tanks these days.

I'm not sure you understand how avoidance works... The only thing that a large health pool gives you is more time for your healer to react to incoming damage. Or, in the case of a druid healer, more ramp-up time for their HoTs. Put another way, if your tank has 200k health, but never drops below 50k, the last 40k was wasted. On the other hand, the extra avoidance from more dodge/parry/mastery would have reduced the overall damage taken.

I'm sadly agreeing here with DarkPoet. I've always preferred avoidance tanks, but there is a point where you have too low health. When a DK has less health than a non-stamina stacking warrior who is just barely geared for ZA you know there is a serious problem with said DK's gear.

Edited, Sep 19th 2011 3:55pm by ekaterinodar

If my Druid gears for avoidance (agility) then he's got as much health in Bear Form as a DPS Warrior.

It makes healers angsty.

Edit: It should be noted that Druids benefit from stamina a lot, both through mitigation and self-healing.

Edit2: Not that I'd recommend a Druid to gem pure stamina. Agi/sta gems are awesome, though.

Edited, Sep 20th 2011 2:52am by Mazra

This isn't an "Extreme" case but the normal case. Its difficult for DK tanks to do a speed run due to the lack of avoidance compared to other tanks but its still possible for it to get done as long as people dps like they should and CC when available. The benefit of running with a DK tank is that When the final boss in ZA goes Eagle he is solo-able as a DK as long as you hit the totems as they appear.

But not wanting to run on a DK because people aren't willing to wait for the D&D aggro on the tiger pulls " which is a pain cause still they seem to run right through it like it doesn't exists and after both diseases, pest, and 2 bloodboils they finally look at me and go "OH YA your the person who is pissing us off the the boom-kin or shammy who attacked us right as we stepped in this red stuff on the ground!" Yet on every other pull there against the trolls it takes an act of god to get aggro from me when I follow the same rotation.

Heck I go though ZG half-hazardously with no worries on my DK cause MOST bosses I can keep my self up and tend to push 11-12k dps while keeping myself up.. Its just the timed run in ZA that DK's are weak against.