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#1 Jun 17 2011 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good
Hello Everyone:

How can I make or buy Ivory Ink? I went to a vendor, but was unable to purchase any. What kind of money do I need and how / where do I get it (The correct money)? If I can make it do I need to know any professions? And how do I make it?

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#2 Jun 17 2011 at 7:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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I assume that you're a Scribe (Inscription), as nobody else needs Ivory Ink for anything.

To make ink, simply do the following:

1). Open your Inscription craft window, this will display a list of things you can make.
2). Scroll down to Ivory Ink.
3). Note that an Ivory Ink takes 1 Alabaster Pigment.
4). Mouse over the Alabaster Pigment, it will tell you that it is commonly milled from Peacebloom, Silverleaf, or Earthroot.
5). Gather or buy from the AH, 5 of either of those.
6). Use your Milling Ability (found in the Professions tab of your spellbook) to mill 5 (it must be 5) of the aforementioned herbs to obtain some Alabaster Pigment.
7). Make sure you buy a Virtuoso Inking Set; you cannot make ink without it (you only need buy one; just keep it in your inventory and don't accidentally sell it). These are normally sold from an Inscription Supplies NPC, which is usually located near the NPC that taught you Inscription in the first place.

Every time you use your Milling ability, you will spend 5 herbs to gain pigment, which pigment you get depends on what herbs you mill (each pigment tells you what herbs they come from in your Inscription Craft Window).

Edited, Jun 17th 2011 9:34pm by Lyrailis
#3 Jun 17 2011 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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It's made by scribes from lower level flowers.

Check the AH or find a scribe. The stuff isn't terribly useful outside of leveling early on so should be cheap.
#4 Jun 17 2011 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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Pantherfern wrote:
It's made by scribes from lower level flowers.

Check the AH or find a scribe. The stuff isn't terribly useful outside of leveling early on so should be cheap.


You'd think that, but you underestimate pure greed.

On both servers I play on, Moon Guard and The Scryers, I've commonly seen the flowers going for 5g+ a stack. Seriously. They take <5 minutes to gather 1 stack.

Not so Cheap when someone doesn't have Lv85 alts...
#5 Jun 17 2011 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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Not the flowers, the ivory ink.

I assumed (likely wrongly) that the OP was not a scribe and therefore couldn't make the ink. I think that was one of the very earliest things to process with inscription so he wouldn't be asking were he a scribe.

I know the starter flowers sell well, that's how I generally fund my "new server" toons. My latest is already up to 4-500g by level 20 because peacebloom & silverleaf, for some reason alien to me, are selling for 9g/stack.

Ivory ink, however, is used to make Scroll of **** I (and I think that's it) which nobody wants so is relatively worthless outside of leveling.

I just figured maybe he needed 1 for some LW/Alch/etc thing and couldn't find it. I haven't actually leveled any crafting professions from the beginning in probably a year so I don't know what all the kids are using these days.
#6 Jun 17 2011 at 8:43 PM Rating: Good
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Scribes are in competition with alchemists as they level and they also compete with other professions for some resources (e.g. wildvine). Depending on who is leveling, you may find the AH less useful than you would want.

It is a good idea to take herbalism to reduce the amount of money you'll need. Besides, Lifeblood may not be the best HoT in the game, but it is still nice to have.
#7 Jun 17 2011 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
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Rhodekylle wrote:
Scribes are in competition with alchemists as they level and they also compete with other professions for some resources (e.g. wildvine). Depending on who is leveling, you may find the AH less useful than you would want.

It is a good idea to take herbalism to reduce the amount of money you'll need. Besides, Lifeblood may not be the best HoT in the game, but it is still nice to have.


Not really...

There are many flowers out there that Alchemists can either skip entirely, or don't really need at all while Scribes can use them to make ink out of.

For example, it is possible to entirely skip these herbs while leveling alchemy:

Grave Moss (entirely skip-able)
Bruiseweed (only need a little of it)
Mageroyal (only need a stack or so)
Goldthorn (only need 1 stack)
Wintersbite (don't need any at all)
Earthroot (don't need any at all)
Dreamfoil
Golden Sansam
Terocone
Nightmare Vine
Ancient Lichen

And once you get up into Northrend, you can literally throw a rock and hit an herb in Sholazar.

The other herbs like Peacebloom and such.... Supply very greatly outdoes demand; just simply not enough people trying to sell it. There's tons of this crap out there, but people just don't sell what they get for some odd reason.
#8 Jun 17 2011 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Rhodekylle wrote:
Besides, Lifeblood may not be the best HoT in the game, but it is still nice to have.


And don't forget the haste from it as well.
#9 Jun 17 2011 at 11:12 PM Rating: Good
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Xizervexius wrote:
Rhodekylle wrote:
Besides, Lifeblood may not be the best HoT in the game, but it is still nice to have.


And don't forget the haste from it as well.


Eh, by the time it actually starts healing anything, all classes get a self heal that is vastly superior to the Herbalism one, so the Haste is really the only reason you'd use it.

Edit: All classes except Hunter, I suppose. But then the hunter himself isn't supposed to be getting hit much at all; but I suppose it could have its uses there, like I used to use GotN to keep my draenei hunter topped off..

Edited, Jun 18th 2011 1:21am by Lyrailis
#10 Jun 18 2011 at 12:15 AM Rating: Good
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Rhodekylle wrote:
Scribes are in competition with alchemists as they level and they also compete with other professions for some resources (e.g. wildvine). Depending on who is leveling, you may find the AH less useful than you would want.

It is a good idea to take herbalism to reduce the amount of money you'll need. Besides, Lifeblood may not be the best HoT in the game, but it is still nice to have.



First toon on a server? Just starting out? No funding from high level mains? Take up 2 gathering professions and sell everything. In the higher levels and when you have money then start a profession you want in the long run. With high levels just buying everything off the AH to level their lower alts it's a great time to be a newbie. My friend just starting out the game for the very first time made 1k in less than a week with just doing 1 gathering profession. No hand me downs, no funds from friends/guild/higher mains, starting from absolute zero.
#11 Jun 18 2011 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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Lyrailis wrote:
Edit: All classes except Hunter, I suppose. But then the hunter himself isn't supposed to be getting hit much at all; but I suppose it could have its uses there, like I used to use GotN to keep my draenei hunter topped off..


Chimera Shot, luls.

Also, Lifeblood is no longer a HoT, but a pretty crappy direct heal. You use Lifeblood for the haste, not the healing:

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Heal

Value: 360 to 1080


360 to 1080 health when you have 100k+ is kinda funny.
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#12 Jun 18 2011 at 8:38 AM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
Edit: All classes except Hunter, I suppose. But then the hunter himself isn't supposed to be getting hit much at all; but I suppose it could have its uses there, like I used to use GotN to keep my draenei hunter topped off..


Chimera Shot, luls.

Also, Lifeblood is no longer a HoT, but a pretty crappy direct heal. You use Lifeblood for the haste, not the healing:

Quote:
Heal

Value: 360 to 1080


360 to 1080 health when you have 100k+ is kinda funny.


Well, see, this was before 4.0. I don't recall ever have Chim Shot, or it healing before 4.0... or maybe I just have bad memory.

After 4.0, I haven't actually leveled my hunter, beyond doing Cooking/Fishing/JC quests.
#13 Jun 18 2011 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
Mazra wrote:

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Heal

Value: 360 to 1080


360 to 1080 health when you have 100k+ is kinda funny.


Seriously, wtf is even the point of that? They should just do away with the heal and give us more haste. =x
#14 Jun 18 2011 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
Hello Everyone:

Thanks for all of the help.

Zzyzzxxq
#16 Jun 21 2011 at 4:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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MentalFrog wrote:
Rhodekylle wrote:
Scribes are in competition with alchemists as they level and they also compete with other professions for some resources (e.g. wildvine). Depending on who is leveling, you may find the AH less useful than you would want.

It is a good idea to take herbalism to reduce the amount of money you'll need. Besides, Lifeblood may not be the best HoT in the game, but it is still nice to have.



First toon on a server? Just starting out? No funding from high level mains? Take up 2 gathering professions and sell everything. In the higher levels and when you have money then start a profession you want in the long run. With high levels just buying everything off the AH to level their lower alts it's a great time to be a newbie. My friend just starting out the game for the very first time made 1k in less than a week with just doing 1 gathering profession. No hand me downs, no funds from friends/guild/higher mains, starting from absolute zero.


This used to be my modus operandi, until the price for all but the most useless glyphs skyrocketed.

Now the way to make money is to take herbalism and inscription and gather every herbing node you can higher level than peacebloom, silverleaf, and earthroot and turn it into ink. Then, keep an eye on the AH and see which glyph that you can make is either selling for the most or in lowest supply and crank a couple out.

1 stack of herbs will turn into about 8 pigments which should get you 4 inks. 4 inks will turn into 4 glyphs and if you make the right ones you can easily make over 100g per glyph. This isn't even counting the "rare pigments" you get and what you can turn those into.

Now ask yourself, would you rather make 400g per stack of herbs or 30g?
#17 Jun 21 2011 at 10:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Bigdaddyjug wrote:
1 stack of herbs will turn into about 8 pigments which should get you 4 inks. 4 inks will turn into 4 glyphs and if you make the right ones you can easily make over 100g per glyph. This isn't even counting the "rare pigments" you get and what you can turn those into.

Now ask yourself, would you rather make 400g per stack of herbs or 30g?


There might be one or two that I missed, but I'm pretty sure every glyph I make to sell takes 3 ink. Plus, glyphs people commonly skill-up on are always getting dumped on the AH (on my server) for 10g or less.
#18 Jun 22 2011 at 6:25 AM Rating: Good
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AstarintheDruid wrote:
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
1 stack of herbs will turn into about 8 pigments which should get you 4 inks. 4 inks will turn into 4 glyphs and if you make the right ones you can easily make over 100g per glyph. This isn't even counting the "rare pigments" you get and what you can turn those into.

Now ask yourself, would you rather make 400g per stack of herbs or 30g?


There might be one or two that I missed, but I'm pretty sure every glyph I make to sell takes 3 ink. Plus, glyphs people commonly skill-up on are always getting dumped on the AH (on my server) for 10g or less.


Pretty much this.

The only glyphs that really make you any money are glyphs that are learned through Research, or even more, Glyph Mastery Books (really really wish Blizz would hurry the hell up with that Research change!) though I bet that sometimes you could get lucky.

Still though, I wish they wouldn't charge 200g+ per glyph for some of the "better" ones... it is part of the reason why you see people showing up to your dungeons without them.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2011 8:25am by Lyrailis
#19 Jun 22 2011 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Leveling, I can understand not having glyphs. Not past a day or two at 85, though. You get so much gold from questing, if you avoid buying over-priced greens and blues off the AH it should be easy to buy at least the 9 glyphs you need for your main spec.

Even 200g for a glyph isn't that bad when you compare it to cut gems. And you can blame Blizzard for making glyphs one-time purchases and tripling the amount of ink in the recipes. Where scribes might sell 50 glyphs a day (or a lot more), now I sell maybe 8 or 10.
#20 Jun 22 2011 at 8:08 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, my bad, it is three inks per glyph now.

But you still usually end up making two glyphs per stack of herbs.

If you sell one of them for 100g it's more than you would have gotten for the raw materials.

The key to making money at inscription is patience and watching the AH. You need to look and see which glyphs are either in high demand and ahrd to keep in stock or that are in lower demand but have a stable price.

On my night elf priest I sold a couple of Glyphs of Frost Nova for about 150g each because, at the time, there were only 2 or 3 others on the AH. I went to put a couple more up on the AH and they were going for 40g and there were 50 of them. I also sold a couple of other glyphs that I had to repost a few times, but in the end they sold for what I originally posted them for.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2011 9:02am by Bigdaddyjug
#21 Jun 22 2011 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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I made over 4k doing Hyjal, Vashj'ir and Deepholm. There's no excuse not to have every glyph slot filled with a proper glyph when you hit cap. The only exception is if you couldn't find a scribe to make one, and the AH was empty.
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