New troll heroic instancesFollow

Kinda surprised there isn't a 150 post count thread on these yet so guess I'll start it.

Did the ST 85 quest line first night, fast but fun and the baby panther pet is adorable, plus it was some easy guild rep and the lead in to a quest in the new instances, so might as well do the series (the find the ambassador quest is done at the very end after you go to Booty Bay to meet the goblin).

Queued random for the JP and ended up in ZA.

For those of you who haven't figured out that this place is going to be rough based off of the 346 GS requirement, well, it's rough - mobs hit like nobody's business and adds are lethal.

Made it to the bear boss after a few dumb deaths and replacing a party member or two due to zone lag not letting them back in and tried him out.

The tactic I found worked was for everyone to stand on the tank to spread out the damage from the, uhm, think it was mortal strike - it does 155k to my 352 geared bear tank so unless your entire group has 25m raids on farm, you'll probably want to stack up for it.

Next stop was the guy with the eggs that hatch into mini-dragon hawks - that proved to be our undoing - don't know if the problem was DPS or heals but we just couldn't swing him - had him down to 200k best run, most wiped around 500k. We tried a couple of different tactics but none seemed to work - killing the adds before they could release the eggs, going whole dps on boss and me trying to tank the birds (they give a stacking debuff which turned me from tank to spanked inside of five seconds) as well as trying to have the DPS spec'd warrior OT the birds while I focused on the boss.

Group fell apart in frustration at that point so that's all my input - tips and tricks obviously appreciated.

Has anyone managed to run through and beat all the timers - is the bear mount back?

You can CC both adds on the second to last boss if you think they can handle it.

For the dragonhawk guy you want to let each side release 2-3 sets of birds each time they come out so they don't all spawn at the end.

Last boss can be super easy or really hard. The lynx and dragonhawk is a healers challege cause there's point where the cat drops aggro to maul some one's face off and you gotta taunt him off the dude so he goes and starts pounding you the tank and it HURTS, if you get to the dragonhawk phase it's not bad just gotta move out of the lines of fire he shoots out at people and not stand in the same place cause there's fire things that hurt you.
if you get the bear and eagle it's a cake walk.

For ZA sure, a bit different but close enough. ZG is mostly new boss mechanics.

ZG is lots of fun but the final boss can be a wipefest if your party dosen't know what to do. If you miss breaking a couple of chains the twisted shadows get overwhelming.

Phase 1 is a joke and if the group isn't at full health and the healer at nearly full mana you have serious issues. As all you do is stay in the bubble, casters can pop out while he isn't doing his major nuke as long as they get back in with time to spare. Again, this phase is a joke and you can technically all stay in the bubble and let the tank slowly push him into P2.

Phase 2 takes some coordination.

The best way I've been doing it is to have everyone but the tank stack on the healer near a chain, dancing away from the shadow crashes of course. It is very important to not get hit by shadow crash while near a chain as the void zone created when the big add slams the chain increases the damage done and unnecessarily increase the healing requirement.

The tank pulls a big add up and tanks it near the stairs. The add does his smash the chain open deal and 2 of the DPS focus fire it down. With the 3rd DPS being a designated ghost *****, the tank helps with ghosts during the time where the big add is dead until the chain dies. As soon as the chain dies the tank gets a new add as the group moves over to the next chain.

Rogues, pallies, and DKs make great ghost ******* btw.

1 wipe does not = not puggable. This is just like when 3.3 hit and we got the new ICC heroics, or when people first got into the 4.03 heroics. You actually have to go and research the boss mechanics so you don't die. Otherwise, prepare to face a few wipes at each encounter while you learn it.

so the group i got was just bad then? cuz besides the fact the trash was really rough,everyone left after we wiped a grand total of 1 time on the bear boss.but we managed to get him down to half hp before we wiped

i dont mind a few wipes,but this wasnt a few wipes.this was a grand whopping 1 wipe,but i dont know.maybe today was just a bad day for pugging,cuz i did a regular random heroic and got deadmines and we wiped alot on the last boss to



Edited, Apr 29th 2011 7:28pm by CrunkJuice7

Edited, Apr 29th 2011 7:35pm by CrunkJuice7

We got to the pull before the Lynx with 2 minutes left, so we called off the attempt (Lynx ended up taking 2:30). Next time we flask, food, and mage remembers Bloodlust.

It doesn't necessarily mean that the group was bad. Just that the people who dropped after 1 wipe were lazy slackers.

I was a noob with a max level 60 elemental shaman that I had leveled by questing. A friend invited me to a "raid" with his guild. It was one of the troll ones. I didn't really know what to do, just did lightning bolts over and over at some boss whenever my friend told me to.

Today was not that much different. I decided to heal a heroic on my holy priest and accidentally ended up in one of the new troll places instead. I told them up front that I was there by mistake and had no idea what I was doing. We cleared a bunch of trash and a few bosses. I got two awesome pieces of purple gear. Then we got to some boss that wiped us a few times. The dps started complaining that it was the healer's fault. I dunno. Maybe the 8k dps that two of them were doing wasn't enough? I know I spammed heals on everyone the whole fight until I was killed by giant wolves each time. I told them maybe they were right, GL, and left the party.

The experiences were somewhat similar, but at least I got gear the second time. :-)

If so, ZA should really be puggable. I mean, people already know the mechanics from past time, right? I'm pretty sure I still remember it.
One of the raids I liked more, right beside Kara.

Lazy at adjusting their thought patterns, at least. In the final days of Wrath, a group that had heroic/emblem gear /was/ bad if it wiped even once. Now if a group isn't in full raid gear, it's pretty darn good if it /doesn't/ wipe once or so.

And we're starting the troll dungeons much closer to the "minimum to get in" level than the "you don't need anything else from here" level. It's a slog for us even with full guild groups, and most of our core was around when ZA was the furthest thing a strict-10 guild could do.

If I find myself in the position of pugging out, I'd be doing it for the practice and maybe a drop or two. I'd have no expectation of success, especially until I'm more familiar with the changes they've made to the mechanics.