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#77 Apr 15 2011 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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That's part of why I really like my class and my school. It just doesn't feel like school. We're all there because we want to learn and the fact that for the most part the 10 of us get along well together just makes it so much more fun to go to school.
I also really like how the teachers aren't really in front of the class telling people what to do but much more in between and helping us where we need it. From what I've heard, the teachers need to be playing teacher a lot more for the other two classes while they can leave us alone for a day and we'll still be doing stuff we need to do.
#78 Apr 17 2011 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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Forget the applesauce. Strawberry banana baby food is where it's at.
#79 Apr 17 2011 at 7:54 PM Rating: Good
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Also, 20 is still young. A lot of 20 year olds are still morons. Trust me, I go to school with them.


Chiming in from the other side of the lectern: it isn't so much that they are morons, it is more like talking to someone who is color blind. A friend of mine is a highly qualified analytical chemist; he can tell me exactly which part of the spectrum he can't see, he just can't see it.

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The evidence now is strong that the brain does not cease to mature until the early 20s in those relevant parts that govern impulsivity, judgment, planning for the future, foresight of consequences, and other characteristics that make people morally culpable….
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At this point in my life I don't think I could date anyone that was more than 3 or 4 years younger than me.


Bun-Bun is 23, I'm ... well Daniel is a few years older. There are times that it can be a bit odd, but usually no more so than any other set of differences one encounters in relationships.



#80 Apr 18 2011 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I live and die by the 5 year rule. 5 older or 5 younger, or no thanks.
I happened to find one at the very edge of the 5 older (5 years, 3 months), but it's close enough for me :)
#81 Apr 18 2011 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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jaysgsl wrote:
I live and die by the 5 year rule. 5 older or 5 younger, or no thanks.
I happened to find one at the very edge of the 5 older (5 years, 3 months), but it's close enough for me :)

Nah. Half Your Age Plus Seven rule. That's 29 for me, which sounds about right.
#82 Apr 18 2011 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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Would be 18.5 for me, rather young but doable.
#83 Apr 18 2011 at 12:41 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Would be 18.5 for me, rather young but doable.
Same here, with the caveat that they can't be high school friends of either of my sisters because that would also be creepy.
#84 Apr 18 2011 at 12:51 PM Rating: Good
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I don't really run that risk because my sisters are older or younger than 18, and we are differet enough that that would never happen anyway.
#85 Apr 18 2011 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I don't really run that risk because my sisters are older or younger than 18, and we are differet enough that that would never happen anyway.

Aethien has sisters?

Pics or it didn't happen.
#86 Apr 18 2011 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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There's a pic of one of my sisters in my images and the younger one is only 16 so I'll protect her innocence.
#87 Apr 18 2011 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
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The heart chonies or the one in pink? Either way.... they should take a tour of America *nods*
#88 Apr 18 2011 at 3:49 PM Rating: Default
ROFL, just spent five minutes on my paladin trying to get our healer in the oculus after first boss to fly his drake to the ledge where the constructs are......5 minutes of yelling at him to fly up, then down, cuz he apparently couldn't see where he was going at all.

We had to hold his hand and guide him to the spot.....I often wonder how these people feed themselves lol...

edit: he just dropped group as I was typing this....wow. He said "that instance give a mouth?" then left.

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 5:50pm by DerpLord

Edited, Apr 18th 2011 5:50pm by DerpLord
#89 Apr 18 2011 at 8:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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DerpLord wrote:
We had to hold his hand and guide him to the spot.....I often wonder how these people feed themselves lol...


Outside of Vashj'ir people do not have to worry about navigating a third dimension while playing, excluding flying around. This is one of the biggest complaints about said instance (that and the final boss is fought on a mount but that leads down a different discussion). This can prove to be a rather big problem for those that have not experienced it before or have trouble with dealing with a third plane. Hence why people either like or hate Vashj'ir, rarely in between.

Oh and due to my grammar **** going nuts I have to say the following.

1. because != cuz
2. Stick to either spelling a number out or use the number itself.
3. I love ellipses as much as the next guy but if used too much it will take away from the
intended use

Now if you will excuse me I am going to lay back down. -grumble-
#90 Apr 18 2011 at 8:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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"I live and die by the 5 year rule. 5 older or 5 younger, or no thanks."


My wife is 36 and I'm 45. We get along very well. Seven good years so far and counting. :-)
#91 Apr 18 2011 at 9:09 PM Rating: Good
jaysgsl wrote:
I live and die by the 5 year rule. 5 older or 5 younger, or no thanks.
I happened to find one at the very edge of the 5 older (5 years, 3 months), but it's close enough for me :)


When I was 20-young and naive- a 45 year old man whom I met through community theater and considered a friend, guilted me into dating him for two months. I didn't have the self confidence at the time to realize that if he would have stopped being my friend because I refused to date him, he wasn't worth having as a friend. Since that experience, I've had a strict rule of not dating anyone more than 10 years older than me. So far I've yet to have an issue with that. However, I do think that it might be possible to meet someone who was older than that, and that I would want to date. Age really is just a number. I think it's better to take each person as an individual instead of following some arbitrary rule. A friend of mine who is also poly, is in her late twenties and one of the men she's with is in his early sixties. He's old enough to be her dad and they work great together as a couple. He's not creepy at all, he's actually a very fascinating person, and as far as I know all his other lovers are much closer to his own age.
#92 Apr 18 2011 at 10:25 PM Rating: Good
I like to freak people out by telling them that my mom was one of my dad's students in college.

Sure he was a grad student at the time and they had already started dating, but folks don't need to know that.
#93 Apr 21 2011 at 7:04 AM Rating: Good
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Is it that hard to target the same thing as the tank?
Is it that hard to keep pets on the appropriate target?
Why is Hunter's mark on a seperate target, and not the one marked with a skull?
Is it that hard to wait for all the targets to be marked before Sapping/hexing/trapping/sheeping?
Is it that hard for DK's to make sure not to drop AoE right next to CC'd targets?


I just thought I'd add a couple. The fact is, this is WoW. It's not Final Fantasy, Aeon, DCUO, EQ, etc. WoW is it's own animal in itself, and yes it has loads of teamwork issues. When I played Final Fantasy 11, I didn't run into nearly as many teamwork issues aside from Samurais intentionally turning themselves into mana-sponges. I'd assume that there were not nearly as many teamwork issues because you're actually forced to use teamwork throughout the game. WoW makes it possible for players to level to 85 without ever joining a party. The downside is that people can get through WoW without ever using or learning about the concept of teamwork. The upside being that you can still level up while playing for thirty minutes a day and enjoying RL (which is impossible in Final Fantasy 11).

The real question is, "How do you get these guys to learn to think about working as part of a team, and playing as part of a unit?" When they're too lazy to read forums, or blinded with pride when asking others for advice, what do you do? Yelling at them, and telling them that they suck while in a heroic or regular dungeon doesn't work. So aside from more knowledgeable players actually taking time on every run to coach these people, how do we get them to learn? It's the only way I think you can lower the amount of retards you find on a daily basis.

(Sorry for the long epic rant)
#94 Apr 21 2011 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
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"How do you get these guys to learn to think about working as part of a team, and playing as part of a unit? When they're too lazy to read forums, or blinded with pride when asking others for advice, what do you do?"


Tell them what they did wrong, then boot them from the party. Explaining + Booting = Learning
#95 Apr 21 2011 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Is it really that hard to move away when there's a boss shouting how he's going to charge you?
Is it really that hard to step into a @#%^ing beam when you're asked to do so?
Is it really that hard to avoid bodypulling a boss?
Is it really that hard to move out of the giant beam of death that's hitting you?
Is it really that hard to avoid pulling every skippable pack you can see?
Is it really that hard to interrupt with DBM shouting at you to do so?
Is it really that hard to move out of the glaringly obvious pools of poison?
Is it really that hard to dps some @#%^ing adds?





Or how I tried to use the LFD tool repeatedly and only encountered people whom I suspect have trouble breathing.

Edit: feel free to add your own rage to the mix.

Edited, Apr 10th 2011 4:05pm by Aethien
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#96 Apr 21 2011 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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They could also just be having one of those 'bad days'. Mine was last night in a heroic deadmines pug, and while nothing was said in party chat, I'm pretty sure they were thinking it.

1. Fell off the ramp and died during the foe reaver fight.
2. Died to something fiery in the 1st nightmare phase.
3. In my haste to run back during the nightmare phase, picked the wrong portal and ran straight into those revolving blue light beam things, died again.


I was just happy to get out of there after all that.



#97 Apr 21 2011 at 11:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Is it really that hard to move away when there's a boss shouting how he's going to charge you?
Is it really that hard to step into a @#%^ing beam when you're asked to do so?
Is it really that hard to avoid bodypulling a boss?
Is it really that hard to move out of the giant beam of death that's hitting you?
Is it really that hard to avoid pulling every skippable pack you can see?
Is it really that hard to interrupt with DBM shouting at you to do so?
Is it really that hard to move out of the glaringly obvious pools of poison?
Is it really that hard to dps some @#%^ing adds?


For many players, yes.

I'd like to join the "Blizz dumbed down the game so any idiot can reach top level" bandwagon in my reply but the reality is that there were sped 60s even back in vanilla.

I blame two things for most of this, albeit, both are really the same.

1) Peeps are hitting 85, getting their heroic GS and then thinking that the heroics are going to be the same facerolls that the normal and LK heroics used to be - most folks simply can't remember that back when we started doing LK heroics we had the same problems and worse (since LFG had no GS requirement).

2) Peeps have been running heroics on properly geared mains and are forgetting that their alts are not 10m raid geared and that they have to actually play smart - I admit to being guilty of that with my tankadin on occasion (342 GS vs my bear that's 352), although not being a window licker, I correct the behavior after the first close call/wipe.

Sadly, if someone else in the party is the idiot then it's either boot or suffer.
#98 Apr 22 2011 at 4:35 AM Rating: Decent
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LK heroics were easy when people were hitting 80, at least relative to tBC and Cata heroics. People also didn't really need to gear extensively in heroics to run Naxx. Again in tBC and Cata gearing up in heroics was required to raid. Also we didn't have LFG until around ICC so everyone was geared all ready when it came out. Prior to that people would still form groups ye old fashioned way via some combination of guild, friends and trade.

Wrath was an expansion on accessibility gone haywire. Cata has gone back towards tBC in a large part with a more defined gear progression needed to move along. Combined with Cata also being hard this pushes people into the LFD queue that offers them a chance to gear up with no accountability for their behavior and skill. That worked for LK heroics but it doesn't work as well for the new batch.

So this gives us a large chunk of the player base that are completely out of touch with how to play the game and not **** people off. It also cause Aeth to rage and punch babies when forced to deal with such things.

Personally, I like to bring as many people as I can to fill a group up. Cuts down on the idiot factor greatly. When Call to Arms comes out I highly doubt my tank or healer will be doing a lot of solo queues unless the gold reward is large as I don't care about vanity items.
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#99 Apr 22 2011 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Horsemouth wrote:
LK heroics were easy when people were hitting 80, at least relative to tBC and Cata heroics. People also didn't really need to gear extensively at all in heroics to run Naxx.

FTFY.
#100 Apr 23 2011 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
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URGH

got a full host of morons on my priest as healer.

pally tank without his righteous buff on, so iam basicly pulling off him with heals. But his threat doesnt matter cause of hunters who rush ahead and pull packs before anyone's ready. A enh shaman who spams DOZENS of times to tell the tank "turn on righteous fury" over and over. the tank then rolls need and gets the offhand orb item. Shaman initiates kick, i realise its the wrong person but its too late. Kick passes. URGH.
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