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#27 Apr 11 2011 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
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This is why I don't want to do these new dungeons. Because I don't know them so well, and what to do on each mob and boss, I am sure to hear some big nerd rage on the first mistake I make. I R SCURRED!


I always make sure my first run or two of an instance is with guildies who share my "we'll find out what this boss does when he kicks our head in" mentality. ZG/ZA's going to be fun.

And for folks who judge via dps, all I ask is that you give heed to the mechanics of the class. If I'm on my just-85 shadowpriest and trash is dying in under 10 seconds, my dots aren't going to have much time to work. Similarly my kitty druid's not going to be building up Rip and so's going to show a lot less dps than he can actually pull off. Even some bosses die too quickly for one bad RNG roll (a string of 5 dodges in a row trying to land yellow attacks, for example) not to massively distort that number.
#28 Apr 11 2011 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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I pretty much only look at bosses, and bosses don't die fast enough for you to do 5k dps due to bad luck.
#29 Apr 11 2011 at 11:20 AM Rating: Good
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My biggest boss gripe is about skippable bosses. Just because you're ilevel 350+ and are only there for your daily valor doesn't mean everyone else is. Some people are running heroics for gear and/or rep and might need something from that boss. You should at least ask if anyone needs the boss before you skip it.


Most of my general dungeon annoyances come from trash, not bosses.

1 - See that skull? Attack it first. If you attack a random target and pull aggro and die it's not the tank or healer's fault.
2 - See that fluffy thing over there? It's a sheep. Don't attack it. Same goes for that frog and that giant block of ice, etc
3 - Tanks, unless your gear is really good and/or you have an amazing healer, don't be surprised when you die after pulling 5-6 mobs with no CC.
4 - If a pull is only barely skippable you may as well just pull it and be done with it. Good chance someone is going to accidentally aggro it anyway (especially pet classes.)
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#30 Apr 11 2011 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I pretty much only look at bosses, and bosses don't die fast enough for you to do 5k dps due to bad luck.


5k in a heroic? Smiley: dubious

That's terribad. I just finished Stonecore at 7k average. At level 82. Smiley: lol
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#31 Apr 11 2011 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I pretty much only look at bosses, and bosses don't die fast enough for you to do 5k dps due to bad luck.

I do more than that.
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On my holy paladin.
#32 Apr 11 2011 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm in no place to be 'elitist' having only done BH this expansion, but it is SERIOUSLY aggravating when people fail badly.
Some stuff makes me think I am playing wrong, not them.
When I tank something on my DK, I'm usually top 2 DPS, with no threat or survival issues what-soever. This is around 8K DPS usually, except on trash, where it can skyrocket due to lucky BB streaks.
When I'm DPSing, and get a DK tank, they're usually doing minimal damage, skirting somewhere above Sub Rogues.
This makes me SURE I'm doing something wrong on my DK, even though there are no problems. Makes me think "Man, if I'm the only one doing that much damage, I MUST be doing something wrong to prioritise damage over something else."
Then there's the 5K group. Those people, who despite all odds, manage to do DPS that would have been sub-par in LK. I seen a frost mage doing 3K once. That should be statistically impossible.
These people aren't stupid, they don't lack some kind of 'magic touch,' they're just lazy or bad.
#33 Apr 11 2011 at 3:09 PM Rating: Good
What bugs the heck outta me are those group members who think they control everything in a run, and if you don't do exactly what they say, they boot you... One group I was in the tank and healer decided they wanted to try to set a speed record or something, as no one was being given time to loot or do their gather skills... They also bypassed several mobs to try to get to the end boss the fastest way possible... As I see it, if you want that kind of group, form your own local group and do it any way you want, but don't go telling folks who got stuck with you via the dungeon finder they have to do it your way... To me that is like folks killing quest mobs to interfere with your questing... I know these folks put their money down to play, but so did I... If enough folks are determined to do the speed runs, petition blizz to put a type of run in the options for what you like; similar to the choosing your role feature.
#34 Apr 11 2011 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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Delinja wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I pretty much only look at bosses, and bosses don't die fast enough for you to do 5k dps due to bad luck.

I do more than that.
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On my holy paladin.


YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAH!
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#35 Apr 11 2011 at 4:36 PM Rating: Good
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Oh, sorry, I read the thread title and thought is was a PM.
#36 Apr 11 2011 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Applicable anecdote: a couple of weeks ago I was playing Starcraft 2 with a buddy of mine - 2v2 matches against two random enemies. Our enemies ended up being Zerg (which means early access to flying units to see up cliffs) and Protoss (which means 'warp in units anywhere on the map'). I was doing my thing nice and easily while suddenly an army marched into my base, even though I had guarded the ramp up to my high ground well. The Zerg player had used a flying unit to gain vision so the Protoss player could warp in his units straight into my base. We lost that round. A week later, I was doing random 2v2s, which means me + a random partner vs 2 random players. My partner made exactly the same mistake I made, and suddenly noticed an army marching into his base. I got angry about it.
#37 Apr 11 2011 at 11:24 PM Rating: Good
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"I'm the tank so I decide we're going to skip every optional boss, because I was dumb and decided to queue for a dungeon when I only had 20 minutes to spare and don't care that all of you need justice points and half of you want gear from that boss and you're stuck with me because you already wasted your one kick on a DC'd player. Ahahahahaha."

After seven attempts at pulling the last boss of Halls of Original and dying because nobody including the healer sat with him...over a time frame that took longer than just clearing the bosses, a DPS with us realized he still had his kick and booted him. Sweet justice.
#38 Apr 12 2011 at 12:26 AM Rating: Good
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"I'm the tank so I decide we're going to skip every optional boss, because I was dumb and decided to queue for a dungeon when I only had 20 minutes to spare and don't care that all of you need justice points and half of you want gear from that boss and you're stuck with me because you already wasted your one kick on a DC'd player. Ahahahahaha."

After seven attempts at pulling the last boss of Halls of Original and dying because nobody including the healer sat with him...over a time frame that took longer than just clearing the bosses, a DPS with us realized he still had his kick and booted him. Sweet justice.


I usually ask when I'm tanking if it is ok to skip. I'd rather skip but understand if people need gear, especially since my rogue needs the Thrown weapon off of the optional plant boss in HoO.
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#39 Apr 12 2011 at 12:30 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, sorry, I read the thread title and thought is was a PM.

I wasn't the author, so how is that possible?

My name isn't green, either. Smiley: schooled
#40 Apr 12 2011 at 12:51 AM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
Delinja wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I pretty much only look at bosses, and bosses don't die fast enough for you to do 5k dps due to bad luck.

I do more than that.
*puts on sunglasses*
On my holy paladin.


YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAH!
Exorcism spam would most likely do that for you yeah.

Which makes it all the more scary how some genuine dps specced people don't do more dps.

Edited, Apr 12th 2011 8:53am by Aethien
#41 Apr 12 2011 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Is it really that hard to move away when there's a boss shouting how he's going to charge you?
Is it really that hard to step into a @#%^ing beam when you're asked to do so?
Is it really that hard to avoid bodypulling a boss?
Is it really that hard to move out of the giant beam of death that's hitting you?
Is it really that hard to avoid pulling every skippable pack you can see?
Is it really that hard to interrupt with DBM shouting at you to do so?
Is it really that hard to move out of the glaringly obvious pools of poison?
Is it really that hard to dps some @#%^ing adds?





Or how I tried to use the LFD tool repeatedly and only encountered people whom I suspect have trouble breathing.

Edit: feel free to add your own rage to the mix.

Edited, Apr 10th 2011 4:05pm by Aethien




I agree with what you are saying but...... lol tone it down. Seriously though, I have no idea why so many players are so bad at this game, it's probably because this game takes a LONG TIME to understand, and leveling is so easy and fast now that people can get to 85 and still not fully understand this game.


And they never will :(.....


In battlegrounds.....people are even worse.....there are people who still, after all these years, are unable to use a toaster. The point is, some people will just never learn.

Edited, Apr 12th 2011 3:25pm by DerpLord
#42 Apr 12 2011 at 1:24 PM Rating: Good
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Aethien wrote:
I tried to use the LFD tool repeatedly and only encountered people whom I suspect have trouble breathing.

Guess that's why we seriously NEED the next round of heroic 5-toon nerfs in 4.1.

O.o
#43 Apr 13 2011 at 7:25 AM Rating: Default
I did last night a normal dungeon with my 82 Warrior as a tank with 2 Hunters and 1 DK and a healadin. The Dps was good BUT, 1 blood spec, no misdirect, no pet control. 5 players running like chickens with the head cut off, I couldn’t hold agro and to my surprise nobody died.

It was ugly, it was careless but it was fun. We laugh so hard instead of getting pissed, we knew it was the wrong way but we didn’t care because the fun was back. We queue again for more action. Don’t try this at home kids, these are professional trained players.
#44 Apr 13 2011 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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I started tanking on my dk...I think its actually easier than dpsing. As a dps I am constantly looking out for sources of damage, moving away from them, checking my cc targets, looking for adds to switch to. As a tank I just stand there and get beat on. Is that fire on the ground? I will back up a bit. I don't have any cc (dk), adds up? Dps will get them.

This is a bit of an exageration, but tanking is more fun so far for me.
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#45 Apr 13 2011 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
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Well the joy of being a healer is that I can let stupid die.


Last boss of BRC for example when I had 3 range that couldn't kite and all died, I just let them die then kited the adds and healed the tank until he soloed down the boss.

I let the fail die, specially the ones that dont move when they have a freaking big pool of **** beneath them, rebirth the most stupid and let him die again. I honestly feel very proud of myself when I do that.
And then, I heal me and the tank and we sooner or later kill the boss.
#46 Apr 13 2011 at 9:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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I let the fail die, specially the ones that dont move when they have a freaking big pool of sh*t beneath them, rebirth the most stupid and let him die again. I honestly feel very proud of myself when I do that.


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Right up there with flightform on the list of awesome reasons to be a druid. Smiley: grin
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#47 Apr 13 2011 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Seriously though, I have no idea why so many players are so bad at this game, it's probably because this game takes a LONG TIME to understand, and leveling is so easy and fast now that people can get to 85 and still not fully understand this game.


And they never will :(.....



Uh, no it doesn't... The game isn't ridiculously easy, but it's not that difficult to understand either. There's so many resources out there online for people to read up on that need help with various mechanics of how the game works. All people have to do is use them. If it takes you a long time to understand this game, then you're probably a moron.
#48 Apr 13 2011 at 3:15 PM Rating: Good
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DerpLord wrote:
Seriously though, I have no idea why so many players are so bad at this game, it's probably because this game takes a LONG TIME to understand, and leveling is so easy and fast now that people can get to 85 and still not fully understand this game.


And they never will :(.....



Uh, no it doesn't... The game isn't ridiculously easy, but it's not that difficult to understand either. There's so many resources out there online for people to read up on that need help with various mechanics of how the game works. All people have to do is use them. If it takes you a long time to understand this game, then you're probably a moron.

No, it's ridiculously easy. Blizzard spoon-feeds noobs so much that if you don't know how to play, you're pretty much a functioning ******.
#49 Apr 13 2011 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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The game isn't ridiculously easy, but it's not that difficult to understand either. There's so many resources out there online for people to read up on that need help with various mechanics of how the game works. All people have to do is use them. If it takes you a long time to understand this game, then you're probably a moron.

One point I've seen in a few blogs that might be relevant here.

In current design philosophy, difficulty in encounters seems to ramp up as a cross product of "complexity" and "reaction speed". Players who are good at both do well, and players who are bad at both are bad. But players whose skillset isn't balanced don't do as well as they "should" - no matter how well you understand your role, if the encounter is tuned past your ability to execute, you /will/ fail, and the same goes if you're flawlessly executing the wrong plan. Past a certain point, your strengths can no longer compensate for a relative weakness.
#50REDACTED, Posted: Apr 13 2011 at 4:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this, seriously this. Wrath of the Noob King anyone?
#51 Apr 13 2011 at 5:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I honestly dont even run dungeons anymore. Just battlegrounds. I get so pissed though when 5 of my teammates are fighting on a flag yet the flag still gets capped under their noses.

I try not to get TOO pissed though because occasionally I'm the one on the other side ninja'ing those caps. But yeah I probably couldnt handle dungeons anymore, especially as a tank. You can be #1 in DPS by a mile and cant even kick any of them because of 2 hour cooldowns and whatnot, and Blizzard decides to punish YOU lol what a joke. Nope sorry I dont dungeon/PVE/raid anymore, just not fun to me at all.
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