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#1 Mar 24 2011 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
....Vanilla and Burning Crusade player race models, only updating the texturing so that they look comparable to worgen and goblin model texturing, as in, so they are better detailed, but the shape of the model remaining the same. However, they said they want to keep the old badly textured models as an option for players who would want to keep the old ones (lawl).


Do you guys think that any player who has a vanilla/BC race character, will have to pay to re-customize their old race characters to the new super textured one? So that you either have to reroll, and you can choose to pick old or new model when creating new character. Or, do you guys think they will scrap the idea of keeping the old badly textured models and just force everyone to have the new super textured models? Or will it be a free option you can choose?

Because one of my characters is a dwarf (vanilla model) and one a draenei (BC model). And I think it would be unfair to force people who already have a vanilla and or bc character to pay blizzard to re-customize their character to the new models. Or re-roll.
#2 Mar 24 2011 at 6:07 PM Rating: Good
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They'd probably either automatically update your model to the new one matching those specs, or they'll just issue everyone a new makeover (without the option to change race/sex).

However, last I heard this was still on their to-do list, and they had no clue when they'd actually get around to it. I don't even recall them giving any specifics regarding what a revamp would mean.
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#3 Mar 24 2011 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
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They'd probably either automatically update your model to the new one matching those specs, or they'll just issue everyone a new makeover (without the option to change race/sex).

However, last I heard this was still on their to-do list, and they had no clue when they'd actually get around to it. I don't even recall them giving any specifics regarding what a revamp would mean.



i recall them saying it would update the textures, but the shape of the models would remain the same. you're first option makes the most sense tho. They should just get rid of the old textured models, all it is is a texture difference, I doubt anyone would prefer the old models, since they are worse textured, but same shape and animations.
#4 Mar 24 2011 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
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As far as most of us know it's 'on the to do list' as previously stated by iDiggory, with absolutely no specifics.
#5 Mar 24 2011 at 8:29 PM Rating: Good
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It was a topic during the Q&A (from before the Arena one). They said it's something they'd really like to get to, but it isn't of immediate concern. That was it.
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#6 Mar 24 2011 at 8:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Thought so. It's been a topic in three or four QAs if memory serves me, none of which they say any specifics.
Of course, looking back and seeing the OP, I'm not surprised to see misinformation, but you never know.
#7 Mar 24 2011 at 9:11 PM Rating: Good
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This is something I'd really like to see. And, considering that this expac was a big push to revamp their newbie experience, it's really surprising that it wasn't done.

And if it wasn't done for this, you can expect that we won't be seeing new models until the difference is horribly obvious (which it is already, but I suppose it could be worse).
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#8 Mar 24 2011 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
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I was looking forward to it too. I love Wow's 'cartoon' look but the models are REALLY starting to show age.
Hell, they upgraded Druid forms in a patch, so we can hope....
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Druid forms were a high priority though. For one, they looked awful--way worse than old race models, imo. But more importantly, they were what Druids stared at nonstop. Once you get to the point where you are wearing helms, seeing your toon's head only really happens if you choose to hide the gear (besides the relatively rare pieces that only frame the face).

The fact that Tree form got a makeover makes me think that they originally meant to keep it a passive form (early enough that they probably developed the model before changing it to a cd). Now if only they'd upgrade the boomkin form--it's not as bad as the old cats were, but it's definitely dated.

I'd place old races after that.
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Druid forms were a high priority though. For one, they looked awful--way worse than old race models, imo. But more importantly, they were what Druids stared at nonstop. Once you get to the point where you are wearing helms, seeing your toon's head only really happens if you choose to hide the gear (besides the relatively rare pieces that only frame the face).

The fact that Tree form got a makeover makes me think that they originally meant to keep it a passive form (early enough that they probably developed the model before changing it to a cd). Now if only they'd upgrade the boomkin form--it's not as bad as the old cats were, but it's definitely dated.

I'd place old races after that.


Druids forms are starting to get old again, the main beef is that we have no visual gear progression.

As for helms, I rarely show them as they are usually ugly and my toons enjoy having nice hair.
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#12 Mar 25 2011 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
Naw I'm just worried that for those of us with high level and or max level vanilla/BC wow race characters, that we will have to pay to recustomize. But must likely, like what idigory said, that you're character will automatically be updated to the new skins based, and your characters face/facial hair/hair/skin color will be updated accordingly to the new versions.

I find it silly that they want to keep the old ones as an option, since I doubt anyone would pick the old low textured model over the new super detailed high textured model, since that's all it is lol, a texture difference. I don't think anyone would complain that they're model is now much better detailed and textured.
#13 Mar 25 2011 at 7:55 AM Rating: Good
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I don't think anyone would complain that they're model is now much better detailed and textured.


I might. I went back and watched the intro for Vanilla -- most of the races looked pretty decent, but the Tauren looked like they were modeled after a plush toy. I've gotten used to the current Tauren look and I'm not sure I'd want to look like a plush toy. OK, I don't play a lot of Tauren, but still ...

There is, of course, the problem of Forsaken as well. Currently there seems to be a truce between the various government ministries here; WotLK was released and patches have been coming out at a decent clip without seeming to have any difficulties. With new skins, however, Blizz would either have to reskin Forsaken for China (as they have in the past) or risk bringing up the kind of rivalry that set WotLK back a year if one ministry were to reverse the position taken by the other -- no exposed bones. I guess we'll know more when we see how Cata launches here.
#14 Mar 25 2011 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't think anyone would complain that they're model is now much better detailed and textured.


I might. I went back and watched the intro for Vanilla -- most of the races looked pretty decent, but the Tauren looked like they were modeled after a plush toy. I've gotten used to the current Tauren look and I'm not sure I'd want to look like a plush toy. OK, I don't play a lot of Tauren, but still ...

There is, of course, the problem of Forsaken as well. Currently there seems to be a truce between the various government ministries here; WotLK was released and patches have been coming out at a decent clip without seeming to have any difficulties. With new skins, however, Blizz would either have to reskin Forsaken for China (as they have in the past) or risk bringing up the kind of rivalry that set WotLK back a year if one ministry were to reverse the position taken by the other -- no exposed bones. I guess we'll know more when we see how Cata launches here.



Ya, we will have to wait and see just how the new skins will look first, before we judge.
#15 Mar 25 2011 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
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All of your posts have the flavor or feeling of a moderator for some sort of debate. Like you are offering up topics for two political candidates to discuss.

"What are your thoughts on immigration?" "How can we best get our spending under control?"


But your topics are generally not that interesting. Your questions can generally be answered with:

"I don't care."

"I have no control over this issue and its outcome will have little impact on my life, anyway."

and

"Why are you posting this comment?" (Because I've started posts that I have later realized would be better posted elsewhere or I have stopped writing because the answer was easily available with a little searching.)

So let's answer your questions -

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Do you guys think that any player who has a vanilla/BC race character, will have to pay to re-customize their old race characters to the new super textured one?


"I have no control over this issue and its outcome will have little impact on my life, anyway."

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So that you either have to reroll, and you can choose to pick old or new model when creating new character. Or, do you guys think they will scrap the idea of keeping the old badly textured models and just force everyone to have the new super textured models?


"I don't care."

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Or will it be a free option you can choose?


"I don't care."

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Because one of my characters is a dwarf (vanilla model) and one a draenei (BC model). And I think it would be unfair to force people who already have a vanilla and or bc character to pay blizzard to re-customize their character to the new models. Or re-roll.


"Why are you posting this comment?" (Because it's stupid. Unfortunately Blizzard is going to do exactly what you fear. They are going to tell millions of people to reroll nearly all of their characters after 5-6 years of playing on them merely because they are changing the facial design of a character who spends 90-99% of their time wearing a helmet that prohibits you from seeing the facial redesign chances.)
#16 Mar 25 2011 at 10:10 AM Rating: Good
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I would really have to see the updated result before deciding if I like the current version better or not. I happen to like the appearance of my main characters and I would be bothered if the update changes their expression/features too much (unless I really do like the update more of course).

The only things I have ever wished they'd do to the Troll characters (the race I mostly play) is to smooth out the skin texture on the female faces (the rest of their body has smooth skin so the face should too) and to give both genders finer textured hair without changing the actual styles.


As to the questions posed...

I probably would not pay to have updated character models if they went that route. The new models would have to look an awful lot better to me for me to even consider it.

Replacing (hate the term 'reroll' since I don't use dice to make characters on wow) my characters is not an option. I seldom delete characters.
#17 Mar 25 2011 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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They see me rolling, fixing, updating, trying to catch me retexturing dirty.

I like how my belf looks, I enjoy the cliche male blood elf look. Please keep!

Also with this said, I'm pretty sure when you server transfer/faction change/race change it gives you the most updated textures available for that toon.
#18 Mar 25 2011 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
I'll be happy if they stop putting horns on helmets that Tauren will wear. It looks silly.
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Horns... inside of horns?

Mind = blown
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#21 Mar 26 2011 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
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They arent going to make new character models, they will upgrade the textures of the current models. Your nose will still be the same shape, it will just look a bit more like a nose should.
#22 Mar 27 2011 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
Yeah Boomkin forms really need an update. Looking at cat and bear form, or even flight form and comparing it to Boomkin form is just sad. Taurens in particular look like a weird rag doll. Or a sloth with no moss on its fur. Plus I really want antlers. Yes, I admit it. I have horn envy... The other boomkin forms have bigger horns than I do, it makes me self conscious. >.>
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