As some of you may remember from a previous thread, I'm writing a 8 to 10 page paper on World of Warcraft for my Game Studies class this term. Originally I was going to write about the pop culture references in Wow, but I've changed my mind. I'd like to write about the different racial conflicts in the Warcraft universe instead, and the faction divisions in WoW, and how that affects the players perceptions of the different races. In particular, I'd like to focus on the humans vs. orcs dynamic, and the humans vs. high elves dynamic.
My mom got an amazon gift card a while back, and since she never shops there she gave me the key code to it. I haven't used it yet, but I was wanting to purchase 2 or 3 of the kindle versions of the Warcraft books, and was wondering which ones people would recommend based on my subject matter for the paper. Thus far the only one I've read is "The Shattering."
Edited, Feb 8th 2011 1:23pm by PigtailsOfDoom
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The War of the Ancients trilogy has a lot about NE Xenophobia and their sense of supremacy.
I'd recommend grabbing Day of the Dragon--you'll get racial and class relations out of that one (for instance, how people view Mages). Night of the Dragon has some, too, I think but I haven't read it yet.
I'd highly recommend Rise of the Horde for your topic. Thrall is the narrator, so at the beginning of chapters you get a journal entry from him about the events. But the novel is set on Draenor and you see the change in Orc/Draenei relations as the Burning Legion gets involved.
Lord of the Clans tells Thrall's tale, which will give you a lot to work with. How various Humans/Orcs treated/viewed him as a Slave and when he ascends to power.
If I had to make an ordered list:
-Rise of the Horde
-Lord of the Clans
-I want to put Night of the Dragon here, due to High Elf/Blood Elf/Draenei drama I know is in it.
-Day of the Dragon
-War of the Ancients trilogy.
I'd recommend grabbing Day of the Dragon--you'll get racial and class relations out of that one (for instance, how people view Mages). Night of the Dragon has some, too, I think but I haven't read it yet.
I'd highly recommend Rise of the Horde for your topic. Thrall is the narrator, so at the beginning of chapters you get a journal entry from him about the events. But the novel is set on Draenor and you see the change in Orc/Draenei relations as the Burning Legion gets involved.
Lord of the Clans tells Thrall's tale, which will give you a lot to work with. How various Humans/Orcs treated/viewed him as a Slave and when he ascends to power.
If I had to make an ordered list:
-Rise of the Horde
-Lord of the Clans
-I want to put Night of the Dragon here, due to High Elf/Blood Elf/Draenei drama I know is in it.
-Day of the Dragon
-War of the Ancients trilogy.
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Hmm, Rise of the Horde and Lord of the Clans definitely look like they would be good for my topic. Night of the Dragons though, based on the Amazon description, looks to just be about one of the red dragonflight. Since you haven't read it yet, are you sure there's Night Elf/Blood Ef/Dreanei stuff in it?
How well-written are those books?
Fan-fiction, in my experience, has a tendency to be a little... flighty?
Fan-fiction, in my experience, has a tendency to be a little... flighty?
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
I know the strife between High Elves and Blood Elves, as well as some between Blood Elves and Draenei, are a part of the book.
Thinking about it, I'd say move it down the list more. Just because I can't be sure of how central it is.
Thinking about it, I'd say move it down the list more. Just because I can't be sure of how central it is.
IDrownFish wrote:
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@Maz, better than fan-fiction, worse than most other fiction. :P
Pigtails, Tides of Darkness might be a good novel for you to use. It tells the story of how the Alliance formed to deal with Orgrim Doomhammer's Horde. But it gives you both points of view--you see how Orgrim is dealing with the remnants of the shadow council, but you also see how the remaining human kingdoms deal with eachother against the threat.
One aspect that it offers is that you also see the Alliance enlisting help from HEs and Dwarves, and how these peoples respond. For instance, the High Elves honor their agreement with Lordaeron and send help... in the form of one small band of rangers (led by Alleria, who volunteered to go IIRC). I can't remember if SM gets any more focus in the book, but you see how the elves interact with men (and react to their first experiences of orcs).
I would put it at number 3 on the list--I'm surprised I forgot it.
Regarding the War of the Ancients:
Two sets of quotes from the trilogy--this is the kind of thing you'll find. It's mostly about NE culture and how they relate to each other and outsiders.
Pigtails, Tides of Darkness might be a good novel for you to use. It tells the story of how the Alliance formed to deal with Orgrim Doomhammer's Horde. But it gives you both points of view--you see how Orgrim is dealing with the remnants of the shadow council, but you also see how the remaining human kingdoms deal with eachother against the threat.
One aspect that it offers is that you also see the Alliance enlisting help from HEs and Dwarves, and how these peoples respond. For instance, the High Elves honor their agreement with Lordaeron and send help... in the form of one small band of rangers (led by Alleria, who volunteered to go IIRC). I can't remember if SM gets any more focus in the book, but you see how the elves interact with men (and react to their first experiences of orcs).
I would put it at number 3 on the list--I'm surprised I forgot it.
Regarding the War of the Ancients:
Quote:
War of Ancient Trilogy
Rhonin: "The plan sounds too simple to work..."
Huln Highmountain: "Simple can be good, if it's drawn from reason."
Rhonin: "Somehow, I doubt Stareye has reason. I don't understand why Ravencrest and he got along so well."
Jarod Shadowsong: "They are of the same caste."
Rhonin: "Oh! It all makes so much sense then...Never mind, we'll just have to watch out and hope for the best."
"The other races may see no reason to ally themselves with ones who'd almost as much as the Burning Legion prefer to see them all wiped out. We're talking centuries of enmity, Krasus."
Night Elf Noble: Tauren in Zin-Azshari? How barbaric!
Rhonin: They'd rather have demons?
Malfurion Stormrage: You wouldn't understand.
Rhonin: No, I wouldn't.
Rhonin: "The plan sounds too simple to work..."
Huln Highmountain: "Simple can be good, if it's drawn from reason."
Rhonin: "Somehow, I doubt Stareye has reason. I don't understand why Ravencrest and he got along so well."
Jarod Shadowsong: "They are of the same caste."
Rhonin: "Oh! It all makes so much sense then...Never mind, we'll just have to watch out and hope for the best."
"The other races may see no reason to ally themselves with ones who'd almost as much as the Burning Legion prefer to see them all wiped out. We're talking centuries of enmity, Krasus."
Night Elf Noble: Tauren in Zin-Azshari? How barbaric!
Rhonin: They'd rather have demons?
Malfurion Stormrage: You wouldn't understand.
Rhonin: No, I wouldn't.
Two sets of quotes from the trilogy--this is the kind of thing you'll find. It's mostly about NE culture and how they relate to each other and outsiders.
IDrownFish wrote:
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lolgaxe wrote:
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Thanks Digg, I'll check that one out too.
Maz, I enjoyed reading "The Shattering." It is hardly what I would call "good" fiction, but it was enjoyable. I'd say it's probably equal to your average young adult novel. There's an old Christopher Pike series called "The Last Vampire," which I really enjoy (first time I read it was in the 6th grade I think), and "The Shattering" is about on that same level.
Maz, I enjoyed reading "The Shattering." It is hardly what I would call "good" fiction, but it was enjoyable. I'd say it's probably equal to your average young adult novel. There's an old Christopher Pike series called "The Last Vampire," which I really enjoy (first time I read it was in the 6th grade I think), and "The Shattering" is about on that same level.
Trudi Canavan, Cassandra Clare, stuff like that?
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Mazra wrote:
How well-written are those books?
Fan-fiction, in my experience, has a tendency to be a little... flighty?
Fan-fiction, in my experience, has a tendency to be a little... flighty?
What I've heard and what little I've read leads me to agree with the others. It's fanfic, but from a competent, professional writer.
I don't rate it, but there's only one author who I've read who's managed to consistently find the right voice for characters in someone else's universe where they have a vast body of lore behind them. And that's Diane Duane, who is currently working on her own MMORPG-based technothrillers in a universe of her own creation.
I third War of the Ancients, it's halfway decently written, and hooks in with your topic.
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Mazra wrote:
How well-written are those books?
Fan-fiction, in my experience, has a tendency to be a little... flighty?
Fan-fiction, in my experience, has a tendency to be a little... flighty?
What I've heard and what little I've read leads me to agree with the others. It's fanfic, but from a competent, professional writer.
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