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#1 Feb 01 2011 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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So I decided to come back to WoW over the weekend, and since yesterday I've been reading everything I can find because I know it's going to be a huge adjustment from the way the game was when I quit in the middle of WotLK.

However, even after 15 hours or so of reading, I've come to realize I'm still hopelessly lost.

I left an account behind with 5 80s and I was planning on just transferring them to a new server to play with my brother-in-law and some of his friends, but now I think I may be better off just re-rolling completely on that server so I can get used to the new style of gameplay. The only thing really preventing me from doing that is that all 5 of my 80s have epic flying and I don't want to have to grind out that much gold again on a new server.

I was planning on rerolling one of my non-80s as a goblin on the new server, so maybe I can just do that first to get used to the new way the game is played, but I don't think levelling 1 class is going to prepare me for all 10 classes.

What do you guys think I should do?
#2 Feb 01 2011 at 10:28 AM Rating: Excellent
Don't worry about doing all your 80's at once. Roll a goblin if you want to. Do it for fun. Also, pick one of your 80's, transfer him and start questing. It will all fall into place. Worry about your other 80's after you have your first to 85.

All my other 80's are still there, and will be for a while.
#3 Feb 01 2011 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Transfer the toons. I think leveling from 1 will not teach you that much more than leveling from 80 to 85. It was a learning curve and I died more than I should have, but 1-80 doesn't teach you much for the run from 80-85.
#4 Feb 01 2011 at 10:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Also what classes are your alts?
#5 Feb 01 2011 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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My 80s are a warrior (which was geared for tanking), paladin (also geared for tanking), death knight (geared for DW DPS), shaman (geared for enhancement), and rogue (geared for mutilate I believe). None of my other characters are over level 40 and only the hunter is over 30 I think.

I like all of my 80s pretty much equally, although the shaman will always hold a special place in my heart. So which of those 80s do you guys recommend I transfer first? Which one is going to have the easiest time of the level grind from 80-85?

I am definitely going to reroll the 5 non-80s just so I get to see all the changes made to the old world, especially some of the things I've heard about the instances.
#6 Feb 01 2011 at 10:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can kinda relate - it took about 3 levels worth of leveling to get used to the holy power system on my 80 Paladin. Then I went from Ret to Prot and thought "Crap, here I go again!" Smiley: lol Eventually you get into a rhythm and figure out what to do. Look up builds online and priority systems online and try to figure out why things go the way they do. If you understood your class before you'll be fine with a little bit of practice.

I wouldn't want to reroll if the end-game is your goal. However, rerolling right now is AWESOME because the entire old world changed. I've leveled several characters to around level 20-30 and I'm loving the new old zones.
#7 Feb 01 2011 at 11:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think you need to be afraid to transfer. I agree with the response that you'll be able to catch up just fine by leveling from 80-85, especially if you do your preferred endgame activity or activities (dungeons, battlegrounds) along the way to help prepare you. Sure there have been a lot of changes but I don't personally think any are so drastic that the game is unrecognizable to someone who's leveled five characters to the cap in the past. If you didn't do dungeons before Wrath, there will likely be a learning curve, so again, I'd recommend doing them as you level to get used to it.

I think the hardest changes to learn will be the ones made to each class. So as far as which character to transfer, I don't think I'd lay out the cash to transfer them all immediately. Start with one or maybe two to relearn first. Reading about changes is never going to be as effective as just playing. You say you like them all equally, so maybe consider what role you want to play first, and choose a class that way. Or if you aren't sure, a hybrid class.

I'd suggest starting a new character from level 1 as well to get a sense of what questing in the old world is like now. You may like it enough to want to level some classes from scratch rather than transfer them over. You mention a goblin specifically so it's worth mentioning that the goblin starting zone is absolute win. :)
#8 Feb 01 2011 at 11:07 AM Rating: Good
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End game is not my goal. I'll never get to raid and will have to be happy just doing 5-man instances at level 85.

However, I do love my alts and eventually would like to get all 10 classes to level 85.

I definitely want to see all of the redesigned zones, and I know I'll get that chance with at least 5 chars to take from 1 to 80.

However, I also want to see the new zones and the new stuff, but I don't want to get constantly booted from instance groups because I don't know what I'm doing. Early in WotLK people begged me to tank for them on my Paladin because I was just that good. I had a few different raiding guilds trying to recruit me but I wasn't any more of a raider then than I will be now.

I just want to have fun and kill a couple hours a night, that's all.

Edit: The only benefit I can see to re-rolling is to choose the ideal race, based on racials, for each class. This doesn't come anywhere near outweighing the amount of gold I'll need to make or the time it will take to get 10 characters up to level 85.

Edited, Feb 1st 2011 11:18am by Bigdaddyjug
#9 Feb 01 2011 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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Well I was just reading up on the official WoW site and noticed that Blood Elves can no longer be hunters and can now be warriors.

I'm fairly certain my hunter was a BE (of course it was over a year ago, so don't hold me to that). I'm assuming when I log on for the first time it will make me select a new race for the character.

I think I'm just going to keep my 80s on the server they are on now and reroll new characters on the server with my brother-in-law. That will save me from whatever the fee is now for a server transfer and give me options if I don't like my brother-in-law's guild or whatnot.
#10 Feb 01 2011 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Blood elves can be hunters. I have one.
#11 Feb 01 2011 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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All of my 80s (Also 5) had a regular flight mount. I took 3 of them from 80-85 and all 3 were capable of buying the mount.

If the gold grind worries you - don't worry.

The only toon who had to scrape together gold was the enchanter - mostly because he wasn't selling crap quest drops or other BOP items.

Most 1h weapons start in the mid-to-upper teens and most 2H are >20.

If you are likely me you don't dual spec EVERY LEVEL 80-85. You have your main and you off. That means a TON of selling BOP Quest drops.

Combine that with phasing and the need to actually quest - you should be bringing in some good $$.
#12 Feb 01 2011 at 1:43 PM Rating: Excellent
BEs can still be Hunters. They just added the Warrior class to BEs, nothing was taken.
(Undead and Humans can be Hunters to now).
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#13 Feb 01 2011 at 2:20 PM Rating: Good
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When in doubt, re-roll! The Goblin starting zone and Lost Isles is incredible fun and worth the few hours of game play.

Zones like Stonetalon Mtns, Ashenvale, S. Barrens, 1k Needles, Badlands and Blasted lands to name a few are amazing after the revamp. If you want to get to know Hellscream a little better, do all of Stonetalon Mtn quests, I highly recommend it.

And they have re-done some of the classic 5-mans either with new bosses or lower level requirements; like Sholomance is now a level 35ish 5man, as W. Plaguelands is now a 35 zone with E. Plaguelands being a 40 zone. Sunken Temple is now a fun 20 minute 5-man as well as they took out the upper and lower level maze.

You got plenty of time to level both a new toon and level an 80 toon. And with all the gold to be made questing now, having the gold at level 70 on a new toon for epic flying is a breeze and nothing to worry about. You need 200 gold for flying, 200 for Azeroth, 400 for cold weather and 4000 for epic as a goblin. No need to even worry about getting exalted as you automatically get the best discount with all factions.

Edit: For east and west!

Edited, Feb 1st 2011 2:22pm by Seculartwo
#14 Feb 01 2011 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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Secular has convinced me. I am going to roll new characters on my bro-in-law's server and keep my 80s on the server they were on all along.

Now I just have to figure out what race I want to make each class on Horde. Also want to have at least 1 of each race, which is gonna be tough because I feel like Orc is the best race for 5 different classes.

I'm thinking:
Death Knight: Orc
Paladin: Tauren
Warrior: Tauren (I've always like tanking on my warrior better than DPSing)
Rogue: Orc
Shaman: Orc
Priest: Undead
Warlock: Blood Elf
Hunter: Orc
Mage: Goblin
Druid: Troll

What do you guys think?

Edit: Changed my pally to a Tauren because I loved tanking on my paladin and I just don't see any benefit to a blood elf as a tank. It came down to either hunter or warlock to be the blood elf and I chose the warlock because I figured a warlock pet would do less damage than a hunter pet.

Re-edit: Ooooooooooohhhh...new Troll starting area!!!


Edited, Feb 1st 2011 3:30pm by Bigdaddyjug
#15 Feb 01 2011 at 3:53 PM Rating: Excellent
You suffer from ALTsyndrome? Smiley: lol
I would work on 1 toon at a time. If you want to be that "everything" class, you can do with Paladin or Druid (tank/healer/DPS).

I would make your 1st toon your Farmer to help get a better cash flow going (IE: be both a Miner and a Herbie, you can track both now at the same time). Would also make him a cook.
Then at 85 (or whenever) you have a toon that can help fund new ones as you roll them. Food with Stat Bonuses are always nice at any level I just don't see the point of leveling cooking on multi-toons on the same realm... I only have 1 "main" cook.

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I'm thinking:
Death Knight: Orc
Paladin: Tauren
Warrior: Tauren (I've always like tanking on my warrior better than DPSing)
Rogue: Orc
Shaman: Orc
Priest: Undead
Warlock: Blood Elf
Hunter: Orc
Mage: Goblin
Druid: Troll


Not a big fan on the undead?
To me when I think of the Forsaken I think of Locks/SPriest/Frost Mages/Warriors/Rogues/(and DK, but the idea is just odd..undead undead?).
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#16 Feb 01 2011 at 3:57 PM Rating: Good
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
You suffer from ALTsyndrome? Smiley: lol
I would work on 1 toon at a time. If you want to be that "everything" class, you can do with Paladin or Druid (tank/healer/DPS).

I would make your 1st toon your Farmer to help get a better cash flow going (IE: be both a Miner and a Herbie, you can track both now at the same time). Would also make him a cook.
Then at 85 (or whenever) you have a toon that can help fund new ones as you roll them. Food with Stat Bonuses are always nice at any level I just don't see the point of leveling cooking on multi-toons on the same realm... I only have 1 "main" cook.


Druids make great cash cows (pun intended if Tauren) since you can at least herb (not sure about mining) without dismounting and even if you do dismount its instant cast. You save a whole heap of time not waiting 1.5secs casting your mount over the course of hours and hours of farming.

I have 1 main cook, but keeping cooking up to speed isn't that hard anymore so I've been trying. Its useful having multiple toons which can lay down feasts.


#17 Feb 01 2011 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
My DK is an undead, because undead undead are awesome. :D

With warlock pets, the imp and succubus are both pretty good damage dealers as is the Demonology pet from what I've heard. If you want to go for pure racial bonuses, you're going to want both your hunter and your lock to be an orc since they get the racial bonus for pet damage. Trolls are good for pretty much any class because of the beserking racial. Blood Elves are good for any of the spell casters because of Arcane Torrent. Tauren and Forsaken are both neat races, but their racials aren't all that beneficial outside of pvp. Goblins are just awesome all around.
#18 Feb 01 2011 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
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Secular has convinced me.



Oh Hell, you're doomed now! hehe

I've enjoyed my Goblin rogue, fits the race quite well....sneaky lil' bastards!
Orc Shamans rule as well, so that's a good choice.
#19 Feb 01 2011 at 5:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
My DK is an undead, because undead undead are awesome. :D


Smiley: nod

those poor souls...
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#20 Feb 01 2011 at 5:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
My DK is an undead, because undead undead are awesome. :D


Smiley: nod

those poor souls...


THOSE POOOOOOR UNFORTUNATE SOOOOOULS!

I can't figure out if my Rogue alt should be Goblin or Undead. I really want to have a Goblin character, but I also really like Undead Rogues.
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#21 Feb 01 2011 at 5:46 PM Rating: Good
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PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
My DK is an undead, because undead undead are awesome. :D

With warlock pets, the imp and succubus are both pretty good damage dealers as is the Demonology pet from what I've heard. If you want to go for pure racial bonuses, you're going to want both your hunter and your lock to be an orc since they get the racial bonus for pet damage. Trolls are good for pretty much any class because of the beserking racial. Blood Elves are good for any of the spell casters because of Arcane Torrent. Tauren and Forsaken are both neat races, but their racials aren't all that beneficial outside of pvp. Goblins are just awesome all around.


Yeah, that's the problem Pigtails. Orcs, imo, make the best physical damage or pet classes. That means if I'm gonna make all the classes that should be orcs into orcs, I'll have 6 orcs and not enough classes to make 1 of each race. I probably won't end up being a demo warlock, so I figured I could sacrifice the warlock to being a BE so I can get 1 of each class. I decided to make my Paladin a Tauren because I just loved Paladin tanking through WotLK and figured the HP racial bonus was better than the no bonuses a BE paladin tank gets from the racials.

As far as The Forsaken go, they are my absolute favorite race on the Horde. Of my 5 80s, 2 are definitely Forsaken, my warrior and rogue, and I honestly can't remember what race my DK is, although it's possible he's a Forsaken as well. It's just that, if I'm going to re-roll on a new server, I'm going to get the racial bonuses for PVE because I don't PVP very much at all.
#22 Feb 01 2011 at 5:47 PM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
My DK is an undead, because undead undead are awesome. :D


Smiley: nod

those poor souls...


THOSE POOOOOOR UNFORTUNATE SOOOOOULS!

I can't figure out if my Rogue alt should be Goblin or Undead. I really want to have a Goblin character, but I also really like Undead Rogues.

Goblins are far better rogues than undead.
#23 Feb 01 2011 at 5:53 PM Rating: Good
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Overlord Theophany wrote:
Goblins are far better rogues than undead.


You make a good case.

I think I shall make a Goblin Rogue.
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#24 Feb 01 2011 at 5:54 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, this is my revised list:

Death Knight: Orc
Druid: Troll
Hunter: Troll
Mage: Goblin
Paladin: Tauren
Priest: Undead
Rogue: Goblin
Shaman: Orc
Warlock: Blood Elf
Warrior: Undead

Now no race has more than 2 classes and with the exception of my warrior, all of the physical damage classes get at least 1 racial that helps them.
#25 Feb 01 2011 at 6:58 PM Rating: Good
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
Ok, this is my revised list:

Death Knight: Orc
Druid: Troll
Hunter: Troll
Mage: Goblin
Paladin: Tauren
Priest: Undead
Rogue: Goblin
Shaman: Orc
Warlock: Blood Elf
Warrior: Undead

Now no race has more than 2 classes and with the exception of my warrior, all of the physical damage classes get at least 1 racial that helps them.


If racial is what you are after, I say your list is pretty good.
Of my 3 toons that I play on, they match your list (Orc DK, Troll Hunter, Undead Warrior).
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#26 Feb 04 2011 at 11:02 AM Rating: Default
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