Jordster wrote:
I've been driving for ... umm ... about 13 years now. I have yet to cause an accident. When I say "appropriate for the conditions" I necessarily mean "not in a school zone" (I'm a teacher, after all). If I'm driving along a major highway on a clear summer morning with few other cars in sight, I'm not going to do 99 km/h ... I drive a pseudo-sports car. It is capable of maintaining a safe driving line at 200 km/h+. I use my judgment, settle on 120 km/h, and go about my day.
I have no doubt you're an excellent driver, Jord. I'm sure most people believe themselves to be excellent drivers. Hell, I believe myself to be an excellent driver. Yet, accidents do happen. A lot of them.
AstarintheDruid wrote:
A "safe" driving speed is affected by too many factors to ever fit on a single road-side sign. Besides road conditions, you have the driver's experience and reaction time, the vehicle being driven, it's gross weight and braking distance, cornering, etc, all affecting what a "safe" speed is. That's no small part of the reason speed limits feel so arbitrary, and why they're so often ignored. And if you want to limit the definition of "safe" speed to a speed where you are guaranteed to walk away after a wreck, you should keep in mind that a collision as slow as ~10 mph is enough to rupture an aortic anuerism (basically a weak spot in the wall of a major blood vessel).
It's true that the limits don't dictate the speed at which driving becomes perfectly safe, but they help. 20 km/h can mean the difference between stopping in time and crashing right through. It's not so much whether someone will die at 50 km/h or 70 km/h, it's whether or not the driver will be able to stop or avoid in time. Once the accident happens, it's going to hurt regardless. Hell, you could fall on your face and die from a concussion.
Also, why the hell are we talking speed limits in a discussion about whether or not the TOS applies to everything regardless of intentions?
Edit: And it would appear I might have misunderstood the meaning of the phrase 'rules are rules'. I did not intend to say that rules should always be followed, I meant to say that rules apply to everyone regardless of intentions. Which goes for speed limits as well. And judging by your posts, you seem to be of the same impression, so we're arguing over nothing really.
Edited, Jan 25th 2011 10:42pm by Mazra