I've geared my tank. He's now ilvl343 in tanking gear and I can say my tanking has improved again. I'm a happy tank.
However, I'm also a sad panda. I see people taking showers in AoE damage. Bathing in flames. Loldpsing the boss and ignoring adds. Healers just standing still for the duration of a fight ... I really, really, can't carry those people. If I get a decent group I just breeze by. But give me a few 5kdps with no situational awareness and it's a corpse run.
And sometimes I get called out after a wipe. "Tank! I was getting hit! L2tank nub Yes, it's called AoE."
Ah ... lfg, how I love thee.
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they will learn.
Heck, I'm learning XD
I probably die 3+ times in a normal dungeon at 85, and I have yet to try a heroic. My big thing is judging when I can go all AoE happy and not pull aggro from the tank and then take a dirt nap.
And kill orders. It is nice when someone marks them as I sometime forget.
Heck, I'm learning XD
I probably die 3+ times in a normal dungeon at 85, and I have yet to try a heroic. My big thing is judging when I can go all AoE happy and not pull aggro from the tank and then take a dirt nap.
And kill orders. It is nice when someone marks them as I sometime forget.
Yeah. Most of the 'new difficulty' comes from needing significantly more situational awareness than you did in wrath. Unfortunately you can't force someone to move out of the fire or kill adds or interrupt stuff.
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Karlina wrote:
Unfortunately you can't force someone to move out of the fire
Obligatory "Life Grip" comment
LockeColeMA wrote:
Karlina wrote:
Unfortunately you can't force someone to move out of the fire
Obligatory "Life Grip" comment
Right, like I'm really going to waste my lengthy life grip cooldown on an idiot when I could be using it while levitating off a cliff to pull a friend or family member to their death.
There's another thread with a similar topic right now. I play both a DPS and Tank. I have a healer, but he's my Alt's Alt.
Right now here's what needs to change:
1. Tanks need to slow down, watch the healers mana, and create reasonable pulls. This has largely occurred in the 4+ weeks since the new spec/nerf/whatever you want to call it to our Threat. You rarely find tanks blindly charging into a room now-a-days.
2. Healers need to work on efficiency. This is largely an internal struggle to over come bad lessons taught by some of the 'free-mana' days of wrath. This has begun to occur, but healers seem slighly behind the curve of most of the tanks I've seen. (Meaning more tanks have learned the hard lessons quicker...)
3. DPS need to focus on what they are doing, follow kill orders, prioritize CC (If that's their role), and avoid stressing the healers. Of all the roles, this is the most 'public' of the struggles to adjust to Cata. Tanks that make stupid pulls quickly take a dirt nap and everyone learns. Healers that are going OOM stupid early either quit healing or quickly realize they can't spam certain spells. But right now it seems like the DPS are the ones in the public limelight. It's the mage who is not using Sheep. It's the Rogue who fails to Sap. It's the Melee who stand in front of the Thrashers (Or whatever they're called in Stone Core) When that big giant is casting quake - Jump. Do you see the tank/healer doing it?
Right now here's what needs to change:
1. Tanks need to slow down, watch the healers mana, and create reasonable pulls. This has largely occurred in the 4+ weeks since the new spec/nerf/whatever you want to call it to our Threat. You rarely find tanks blindly charging into a room now-a-days.
2. Healers need to work on efficiency. This is largely an internal struggle to over come bad lessons taught by some of the 'free-mana' days of wrath. This has begun to occur, but healers seem slighly behind the curve of most of the tanks I've seen. (Meaning more tanks have learned the hard lessons quicker...)
3. DPS need to focus on what they are doing, follow kill orders, prioritize CC (If that's their role), and avoid stressing the healers. Of all the roles, this is the most 'public' of the struggles to adjust to Cata. Tanks that make stupid pulls quickly take a dirt nap and everyone learns. Healers that are going OOM stupid early either quit healing or quickly realize they can't spam certain spells. But right now it seems like the DPS are the ones in the public limelight. It's the mage who is not using Sheep. It's the Rogue who fails to Sap. It's the Melee who stand in front of the Thrashers (Or whatever they're called in Stone Core) When that big giant is casting quake - Jump. Do you see the tank/healer doing it?
teacake wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Karlina wrote:
Unfortunately you can't force someone to move out of the fire
Obligatory "Life Grip" comment
Right, like I'm really going to waste my lengthy life grip cooldown on an idiot when I could be using it while levitating off a cliff to pull a friend or family member to their death.
A much better use, I agree!
(For those who didn't get it, I don't mean LoF to actually be used - let the idiots die!)
teacake wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Karlina wrote:
Unfortunately you can't force someone to move out of the fire
Obligatory "Life Grip" comment
Right, like I'm really going to waste my lengthy life grip cooldown on an idiot when I could be using it while levitating off a cliff to pull a friend or family member to their death.
Unfortunately, it can't be used while moving.
Because Blizzard takes all the fun out of things.
Edit: That's what the error message says. But it's likely that it just isn't able to be used while jumping/falling, like Death Grip. I'll test it out tonight on some "willing" guildies.
Edited, Dec 22nd 2010 3:13pm by IDrownFish
IDrownFish wrote:
Unfortunately, it can't be used while moving.
Me and Blizzard are in a fight.
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