Anyone else burnt out/bored yet?Follow

2+ hrs for Heroics is only heroic in length of time. I guess I am getting lazy and don't want to grind these "omg when this is going to end" type of dungeons. I must get old.

I am one of the last remaining mains to hit 85 in my guild. In fact, a lot of people have now leveled more than 1 toon to 85 in the time it took me to level one of them and I am still not 85 yet....85 with 3 bars to go until 85 to be exact. I belong to a really really big raiding guild and there are about 40-50 people online at any given time. I of course won't be able to start raiding with them right away and will patiently wait my time while enjoying the new expansion. I have learned from almost 6 years of playing WoW that it never pays to rush to level cap.

Right now I am not even worrying about leveling my professions, as I have 1 of each to level on all 6 of my level 80 toons, and I deleted 2 225+ JC's to make room for my new goblin rogue and hunter. Yes I would rather start over than pay $25 a piece to race change. I am making money hand over fist selling my DE mats (30g per dust) and Embersilk cloth (11g per cloth...cloth not bolt). Ore suprisingly enough is dirt cheap...cheaper than mithril is lol. My archaelogy is level 10 and so far I am enjoying the time sink...because coming from FFXI and FFXIV I do love my time sinks.

I just enjoy the expansion and I mean really enjoy it. This is by far my favorite expansion and I have 5 more toons to level to 85. The zones are nice...the quests are nicer...and the return to CC in dungeons is a welcome change. I remember having to say no to randoms because I didn't have 1 1/2 hours to complete it (WOTLK heroics in less than 10 minutes lol). I like the reforging aspect and the addition of many many many new non-combat pets!!

Long story short...I am having a blast and this expansion has rediscovered my love for this game. Cheers to Blizzard for a perfect launch (aside from healing imbalances :)) !

Why are you so mean to me?

I did make a thread stating 1-60 > 80-85, and this is exactly what I was talking about. The dungeons and heroics feel like raiding, no more instant queue, no more quick dungeons. Just the idea to grind those for gears makes me sick. We had 1 Oculus and 1 Hor and it was enough, now they went postal and gives us Hor x 5 all around with long queue time. Sorry but I will pass.

Trust me, this expansion is all about 1-60 for casual and elites got the end game. That's why major nerf is coming up; I'll bet you next week.

They are leveling alts and that's my point. 80-85 is very quick and no point to rush with this situation.

Am not.

Just haven't had much playtime since release. A December release date doesn't leave a lot of time for playing in my case. Most of the evenings are spent doing stuff for the holidays (cookies, wrapping gifts, decorating, Christmas cards, chatting with family on the phone, etc) and weekends are full of family photos, gift exchanges, family and friend's parties and stuff. I've had probably 12-15 hours of playtime since release and about 90%+ of that had been on my main (83, and about 15% of the way to 84). Of course that isn't all leveling, with a guild to run and such. Thankfully most of the guild are parents who are in the same boat.

The next weekend after New Years is going to be Epic though, I can feel it.

*snort*

I hit 85 last week and have done several heroics already. Guess I'm one hell of a hardcore casual.

And I agree with both camps here. Heroics are silly, but most likely due to gear. Except for the wipe mechanics they put in for every boss fight. Most of us aren't prepared for heroics yet, but they're available and frustrating as hell because of it.

The equation isn't gear > skill anymore, but it's not gear < skill either. It's more like gear + skill, and even then it's frustrating.

My opinion? They changed too many factors in the game at once, and it's going to cost them.

And I'm running on the fumes. They broke most of what I enjoyed about my class. I've seen the ups and downs of the Druid class since Vanilla beta. This expansion wasn't one of the good ones.

Coming from a Nilla who recently started again after leaving because Wrath was garbage, I'd like to say that I am completely in love with this expansion.

First, I left before dungeon finder. Dungeon Finder irked me because it meant that most of the content was ABLE to be done with a PUG. When I left it was because it was too easy, and even then it really required a cohesive, intentional group to do most Heroics and Naxx/OS/EoE. The when I came back (4.0), I was sad to see that Naxx was a waste of time, OS+3 was a PUG joke, half the players didnt know what EoE was, and PUGs were spamming Trade for tanks for the hardest raid in the game!?!!?!

This is an MMO. This is probably one of the ONLY MMOs on the market that you don't NEED to connect with your fellow players. Even the weird and lame MMOs like EVE require that much!! For Christ's sake, does anyone even have a friends list anymore? Well they will now!!

DF should be reserved for when you're hopelessly bored or in a huge hurry and none of your friends are on. For crying out loud theres an achievement for using it that gives you the title "the Patient" because its SUPPOSED TO BE BAD!

As for the other complaints, you can easily get to 85 doing Vashj'ir -> Uldum -> Twilight OR Hyjal -> Deepholm -> Twilight, or multiple variations of that route. Sure you SHOULD go back for rep and cash, but there's a lot of things you probably should be doing that you're not. I see the concern that there aren't nearly as many zones, but there are only 5 levels. I was rather disappointed in how easy it was to level to 85, but I'm ecstatic to find that as a Tank I'm only finishing about 1/3 of Heroics when I DF a group. That number is ~90% when I play with my friends and we're all on Vent/Skype. This is how it used to be.

I can't wait to see the raids because I have a good feeling that they're going to scale up like Heroics did a second time and really cut the fat off. You cannot complain for months that a game is faceroll easy and then complain when they make it hard again.

I've made around 10k gold since Cata launched. I don't see how anyone could be broke. Leveling, selling jewels, and stacks of archeology keystones is how I'm doing it. I would sell my cloth also but my Mage needs them.

Getting kind of burned out wiping so much in heroics. Seriously, seeing us wipe repeatedly on the FIRST boss in shadowfang keep due to terrible dps is horrible. I interrupted 20+ casts and still managed to do more than 10k dps with a terrible spec, why can't you mr "i can't find my counterspell lol".

I started at L1 and I'm loving every minute of it ... Currently L44.

There are so many cool quests ... So many different ways to get XP ... So many new and cool zones to explore. I haven't even done half of the zones/quests for my levels because I get so much XP from instances, BGs and herbalism.

I think this expansion is going to be keeping me busy and entertained for many months to come.

If you are feeling burnt out already, it's not the expansion, it's just you being burnt out on the game, period. The game is as the game is, as all MMO's are, traditionally. You level. You Craft. You Gear. You Group. You End Game. I feel Blizzard did change a lot, so much to try to counter the old boredom of the MMO cycle, and it is working out for me so far.

Mazra said they changed too much and it will come back to haunt them. I see that it will have an oppisite effect, because so much is different, it gives you more to do. Just look it old Jordster, rocking the lower levels out and having a blast.

I feel RAWDEAL's pain on the dungeons. I feel though you may be putting the cart before the horse. It's still hella early my friend. You are wanting to walk inside a Heroic as a DPS, spend an hour to do 2 or 3 instances. First off, the player base isn't there yet. You will have to wait I'm afraid until more people are ready to be where you are, and then you will see shorter queue's. (Plus it's the holiday season, be realistic, a lot of people are busy in RL to being playing a game)

Are dungeon's too hard? Nope, just require thought and communication. I've walked into my fair share of just complete awful PuG's sure, but absolutely love the one's that have had like minded individuals wanting to learn, to complete and to communicate to finish it out. Are dungeon's too long? Not if you exclude the fact that we are all pretty much learning these things. Time is need to explain, and to wipe. Which is an exceptable part of learning a dungeon mind you.

WotLK hurt us more than you realize when it came to dungeons. I was never so bored with the game as when I was mindlessly running heroic's for badge's. Now the instances are making me think and work. And for my that ='s fun.