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#1 Dec 20 2010 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
Unfortunately I think I am already done for the expansion, I leveled one character to 85 in 4 days (slacker, I know) and I don't have any desire to do the exact same quest lines on any of my other characters. Leveling JCing hasn't been fun (up to around 480, and don't want to level my DK to fly around gathering ore) and tailoring is a chore.

I've run most of the instances, they were fun but with my terrible luck in heroics (45minute+ queues, guildies that don't feel like running when I am online, pugs that don't complete instances after 2 wipes, and terrible drops/rolls) I won't be getting gear anytime soon. The new raids sound okay, but I just don't have that desire anymore, especially not 12hrs+/week of raiding.

Anyone else going through the same thing, or am I alone in this 2 weeks into the expansion?




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#2 Dec 20 2010 at 8:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not even close. Knowing that the game at 85 will be there for at least a year I've taken my time leveling. The only zone I have done 80+ yet is Hyjal (and part of Uldum) - I still don't even know how to get to the underwater ones. My archeology is at 500, and I plan on maxing that out at just about the same time that I hit 85. Once I hit 85 I'll start on the other zones, going in order, getting the exploration and quest achievements, along with a (hopefully) ton of gold. When I'm done with the quests I'll hit the normal instances, following the guide in the druid forums on gearing up for heroics. By then my guildmates will all be in better gear than I, making heroics much easier (I hope).

While running heroics I'll also start looking more into PvP. Rated battlegrounds sound neat, and the new ones look interesting for a bit. Then I'll try and hop on with the guild to down the Lich King, which will hopefully be trivial by that point; and after we'll jump into the new raid content.

And none of this even discusses my new goblin and worgen, nor my Horde character (although I think 80-85 will be similar in most areas for both factions).

I think at my current rate of play (maybe 10-15 hours a week) I'll start wondering what to do come late spring or summer.

Edit: However, some of my friends and guildmates are in similar positions. They raced to 85 within the first week and now have long queues and not much to do. Knowing that's what would happen I've been going slow on purpose. That said, reaching 84 within 2 weeks of the expansion still seems really fast to me.

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 9:04am by LockeColeMA
#3 Dec 20 2010 at 8:15 AM Rating: Excellent
I started over, deleting my previous Priest alt and rolling a new, fresh Worgen Priest to level through all the new expansion old world content. It's been what I hoped, a good "refresh" to rebuild my interest in the game, since I left about 5 months into WotLK and didn't look back.

I think (for my, anyway), that stepping away from the end game (I've 4 other alts at 80) and avoiding it right away, and just enjoying all the new content, did a bit to help me retain my interest and should (hopefully) help me from burning out too fast before the content is there a few month(s) down the road. I've run a few old world instances for XP and fun, but the new quests are pretty fun and seeing the old world rebuilt is kind of cool.
#4 Dec 20 2010 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Is this intended to be "I quit I want attention" thread? Cuz its up to you to find the parts of the game you enjoy. Make a tank (or healer) and enjoy short ques and have fun learning new roles. Find another guild that suits your time restrictions better. Tons of casual guilds who only raid 4-6 hours a week and don't require 100% attendance. If none of this helps... then its time to take a break if you are just burned out on wow. It happens, no need to blame it on the game.
#5 Dec 20 2010 at 8:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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I hit that wall mid way through the last expansion. I'm playing a fair bit now, but I have the feeling that as long as I don't try to push myself too hard too quickly, I'll be alright.
#6 Dec 20 2010 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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I am not burned out or bored yet, but I must say that I was surprised at how fast the levels went from 80-85. My wife and I play together and we played casually, simply working on the quests in each zone, starting with Vash/Hyjal, then Deepholm/Uldum and we made it to 85 in just over a week. I guess we enjoyed the new zones and stories so much it made the time fly by, so that could be part of it. I've reached the 525 cap on engineering on my main, and working on Arch, herb, and alch on one of my alts. At this rate, most of my characters will be level 85 with professions maxxed within 2 or 3 months.

I think I will reach the bored stage in about 4-5 months.
#7 Dec 20 2010 at 8:27 AM Rating: Excellent
Not even remotely - I ground my main straight through the underwater zone and 90% of that was without rested XP resulting in the experience feeling like a long, unproductive chore.

So rather then methodically grinding straight through ever last bit of content on my main and then having the rinse and repeat syndrome with the alts I've elected to take my time, slow down and smell every rose along the way (and not just a fast sniff to ID the aroma, we're talking brandy sniffer style aroma therapy with said rose).

As such I'm really getting my money's worth - I've been alternating between working (working, not grinding) my way through zones, exploring in general, doing gathering skills, doing trade skills and running instances. The result is that there's no sign of burn out and working through a zone or quest chain with an alt isn't a rinse and repeat process, instead, it's looking forward to scoring a particular piece of gear, taking the quest from a different approach or simply enjoying a fun quest a second time around.

So just take your time and actually play and enjoy the game rather then making a mad scramble for 85, especially if, as you don't even need to do so since you're not a raider.
#8 Dec 20 2010 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
rusttle wrote:

So just take your time and actually play and enjoy the game rather then making a mad scramble for 85, especially if, as you don't even need to do so since you're not a raider.


I've been a raider since level60, and not really a casual one at that (only boss I haven't killed is heroic lich king...).

I'm guessing that the game has just become stale with rinse-and-repeat leveling/instances/gearing/gemming/etc that I may have finally gotten some strong bites on that carrot on the stick that there is less for me to strive for.

@Vilaca, no this isn't really intended as a 'i quit give me attention, plox' thread. I was curious if others who may have been feeling burnout/frustration in Wrath (like I was) have had any similar experiences to myself. I haven't 100% quit, but I haven't logged in for over a week, which is quite unusual (especially for myself) at 2-weeks into a 'new' game.


I don't really want to go through the same quests again, but maybe I will level my DK and see if it gets more fun for me, I enjoyed tanking a bit (even if it was a bit scary at first) in Wrath on him.
#9 Dec 20 2010 at 9:55 AM Rating: Excellent
Well I did level a Warrior to 85 with my Archaeology and Tank a little. I have to admit that I will wait for some fix; Tanking is hard to maintain agro in random pugs and healers ...well sucks for now. I don’t want to be OP but I don’t like hours of struggling/intense coordination to do a regular dungeon. They feel like a 5 man raid to pick up regular gears, not worth my time/patience.

Still lot of stuff to do but a good book or a good beer at the bar sounds better for now.
#10 Dec 20 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
I'm really enjoying this expansion. Ours is a casual guild, so we are just now getting a enough 85's to explore all the 5 mans. I'm one of the guild's main healers, so I haven't pugged at all. All our dungeon runs (no heroic yet) have been fun, with us chatting it up on vent. I really like many of the new boss encounters and mechanics. I've gotten my mana regen up to an acceptable level, and I'm pretty happy with my stats for the level of content we are currently doing. I am having fun healing, and gameplay has moved away from simply bubble spaming everyone, to using most of our spells where appropriate.

I had a good amount of cash saved, so I've leveled my engineering to 525 (love the Goblin Barbecue) and I'm finishing up my Tailoring. I've also started Archeology. Fishing and cooking are in process as well.

Although I have the old Loremaster, I'd like to get back eventually and get each zone's new quests completed for the new Loremaster.

I haven't even thought about playing through a starting worgen or goblin yet. There's a lot to do. I suppose if I get a moment, I could level my hunter, who is my herbalist / miner. We aren't rushing, but we are making progress. I'm having a blast.

#11 Dec 20 2010 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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I did not mean for my first post to sound as harsh as it did. I myself find the game frustraiting and slow at times. Sometimes I just get bored with no new content, but right now I can't imagine that being a complaint of anyone. Now I do understand issues with the game that cause expierence to be sub-optimal.
#12 Dec 20 2010 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not burnt out yet, but I'm trying to decide whether I want to raid with my guild, or start leveling an alt. We'll see.
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#13 Dec 20 2010 at 10:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not yet.

I've got a lot still to do. My main isn't even 85 yet, and I still have 2 other toons I'd like to get there. Then there's raiding, PvP, archeology, new races to try, etc. Still would like to see the changes to the world as well. I've only got 1 toon up to 25ish, and I'd like to get 2-3 through the old world to see everything.
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#14 Dec 20 2010 at 11:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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I am not burned out or bored yet, but I must say that I was surprised at how fast the levels went from 80-85.


This is exactly how I feel.

I wasn't able to play the first few days of Cata, since I was out of town for work. When I was able to play, I decided I wasn't going to rush to 85. I spent time messing with primary professions, archaeology, etc., instead of just grinding to 85. Even so, I got to 85 in about a week. Despite the massive XP requirement, XP comes so easily now that the levels really fly by. Maybe it's because there's only 5 instead of 10 this time around. I don't know, it just seems like leveling probably should have taken a little longer.

I'm still taking it slow, though. I haven't done a sinlge instance yet. Partly out of fear (I admit, I'm hesitant to tank new instances) and partly just because I've been enjoying everything else so much, I haven't really been in a hurry to start the gear grind.

With the thorough revamping of the game, I don't really see myself getting bored any time soon. I love the changes. I'll get back to some alts at some point, but for now I'm enjoying the hell out of playing. And, we haven't even started raiding yet. That's usually what I enjoy the most. So, there's still a lot of life in this expansion for me.
#15 Dec 20 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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[quote] I haven't done a sinlge instance yet. Partly out of fear (I admit, I'm hesitant to tank new instances)
This is what’s going on right now in Cata, the same players who were happy with WOTLK because raiding was finally accessible, are trembling in fears to push the LFD button. Massive nerf incoming, the base is dying and so will be the subscription after 1-2 months of this.
#16 Dec 20 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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I'm kind of feeling your pain...

My guild currently sucks. My old guild kept asking me to respec for 11/12 LK attempts. I wasn't invited to the first 11, because i was new and after enough people left, the RL would ask for my help. It was always stupid things, like respec for fire-mage or heal as a disc-priest. The problem was I never played those roles and I was being asked to learn it on the LK fight. (I was also annoyed the 1 raid I did attend, I was 3rd in DPS and I still couldn't get invited to anything other than failed LK attempts) So I left. My current guild is just ok. They don't raid and don't really do 5-mans. It's kind of just a social club.

I looked into doing a realm transfer (I'm on a Med. realm, but the **** Population is relatively low.) I also looked at a faction change. But I have 5x 80s and I'm just not paying 100+ to transfer my account.

My subscription is good for a while and the new content is really fun, though I agree - the levels go WAY too fast, but unless I can get into a guild that casually raids or does more than run old BC/Wrath raids... I probably won't re-up come May next year.

The LFD tool is also broken. The 40+ minute queue time is crazy. The groups that do form aren't always really a good fit. You end up with a lock, a hunter, and a paladin for DPS and you really have **** for CC. Yeah, Hunters can CC, but it's the weakest IMO.

I really like the new zones. Especially Uldum. I didn't see that coming - the Eqyptian thing. Very cool. The underwater zones are also great.

For me, it's the lack of a proper guild and the refusal to pay 25-30 per toon to change.

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 12:58pm by Borsuk
#17 Dec 20 2010 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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I had the same feeling when I was playing my rogue.

Then I race changed my hunter and started leveling my hunter again, and I'm having fun.

The main issue I had with my rogue was that it wasn't at all fun to solo, something that I really enjoy. I was having to burn Combat Readiness or Evasion just to take down Tol Barad Peninsula mobs.

And from what I've heard from hunters and my brother, they're having no issues with soloing, and hunters are doing some nice DPS in instances.

Ergo, going back to my roots and playing some hunter. It certainly helps that fox pets are cool as hell. Smiley: grin
#18 Dec 20 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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[quote] I haven't done a sinlge instance yet. Partly out of fear (I admit, I'm hesitant to tank new instances)
This is what’s going on right now in Cata, the same players who were happy with WOTLK because raiding was finally accessible, are trembling in fears to push the LFD button. Massive nerf incoming, the base is dying and so will be the subscription after 1-2 months of this.


I'm not a scrub player, but I worry about doing well in instances; a feeling I haven't had since TBC. The reason is pretty simple - in Wrath I could pretty much control the fight as a tank. Keeping aggro was no problem, and I had enough "OH SH*T" buttons that even assuming I received no healing for 30 seconds I would be fine. DPS could stand in the fire and die, or not use CC, or not interrupt, and the group would still be ok. This is not the case any more - now I'm at the mercy of my other teammates doing what they're supposed to do (barring the healer, who I've usually done fine with). And a lot of DPS just don't understand or can't do it when you do a random. It's frustrating for me knowing exactly how my role works, and then having to deal with the mage who would rather Blizzard everything rather than sheep the marked targets. Without that control, if the DPS pull aggro and die because they don't FF on my target, we can run out of healer mana and die anyway even if the rest of us get it right.

That lack of control is frustrating. That said, I think it's EXACTLY how it should be! The instances are like they were in Vanilla, but with better items, less (for some instances) trash, and more interesting mechanics. Guild-only runs will be awesome; randoms will be VERY random.
#19 Dec 20 2010 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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I seem to remember, somewhere, Blizz making the statement that since we were getting only 5 levels with this expansion, each of those 5 levels would be an achievement in and of itself.
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I got my lock to 85 on Saturday, and I was one of the slow ones in the guild.

I am somewhat burned out on questing tho, have done half dozen guild dungeon runs, listened to screams of pain from our healers, and started archaeology which I guess will be better once I'm further along.
Right now, I'm thinking about fishing in every area to see what's in the lakes & rivers, and to see what I can cook.
Other than that, I'll continue leveling some alts. My mage is 73, have a shadow priest at 38 which I'm liking more and more. We're making plans to work on guild achievements, we hit level 4 last nite.

There's always stuff to do, you just need to look for it.
#20 Dec 20 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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That said, I think it's EXACTLY how it should be! The instances are like they were in Vanilla, but with better items, less (for some instances) trash, and more interesting mechanics. Guild-only runs will be awesome; randoms will be VERY random.
No problems but if you have an hour to play (A reasonable time for a casual play), forget about Heroics (3 hrs), forget about regular dungeon with 45 mins queue time. I was not a raider because of time restriction, now I can't even do dungeons. I know we are not in Kansas anymore, but give us some slack Blizz.

The Wrath dungeons at the opening (not during the t-10 grinding for BOA) were fun, short and LFD was your friend. I know it’s hard to please everyone but I would like them to keep extensive dungeons length and difficulty for raiding. Give us our little care bear dungeon to play around and feel like we accomplish something in an hour.
#21 Dec 20 2010 at 12:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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RAWDEAL wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
That said, I think it's EXACTLY how it should be! The instances are like they were in Vanilla, but with better items, less (for some instances) trash, and more interesting mechanics. Guild-only runs will be awesome; randoms will be VERY random.
No problems but if you have an hour to play (A reasonable time for a casual play), forget about Heroics (3 hrs), forget about regular dungeon with 45 mins queue time. I was not a raider because of time restriction, now I can't even do dungeons. I know we are not in Kansas anymore, but give us some slack Blizz.

The Wrath dungeons at the opening (not during the t-10 grinding for BOA) were fun, short and LFD was your friend. I know it’s hard to please everyone but I would like them to keep extensive dungeons length and difficulty for raiding. Give us our little care bear dungeon to play around and feel like we accomplish something in an hour.
Make friends with a tank on your realm and queue with him, or better yet a healer and a tank!
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#22 Dec 20 2010 at 12:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
RAWDEAL wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
That said, I think it's EXACTLY how it should be! The instances are like they were in Vanilla, but with better items, less (for some instances) trash, and more interesting mechanics. Guild-only runs will be awesome; randoms will be VERY random.
No problems but if you have an hour to play (A reasonable time for a casual play), forget about Heroics (3 hrs), forget about regular dungeon with 45 mins queue time. I was not a raider because of time restriction, now I can't even do dungeons. I know we are not in Kansas anymore, but give us some slack Blizz.

The Wrath dungeons at the opening (not during the t-10 grinding for BOA) were fun, short and LFD was your friend. I know it’s hard to please everyone but I would like them to keep extensive dungeons length and difficulty for raiding. Give us our little care bear dungeon to play around and feel like we accomplish something in an hour.
Make friends with a tank on your realm and queue with him, or better yet a healer and a tank!


No kidding, this.

Also, The expansion's been out for 2 weeks. Not everyone is going to be ready or willing to do heroics quite yet. I know I probably won't until at least January.
#23 Dec 20 2010 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
Sir Xsarus wrote:
RAWDEAL wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
That said, I think it's EXACTLY how it should be! The instances are like they were in Vanilla, but with better items, less (for some instances) trash, and more interesting mechanics. Guild-only runs will be awesome; randoms will be VERY random.
No problems but if you have an hour to play (A reasonable time for a casual play), forget about Heroics (3 hrs), forget about regular dungeon with 45 mins queue time. I was not a raider because of time restriction, now I can't even do dungeons. I know we are not in Kansas anymore, but give us some slack Blizz.

The Wrath dungeons at the opening (not during the t-10 grinding for BOA) were fun, short and LFD was your friend. I know it’s hard to please everyone but I would like them to keep extensive dungeons length and difficulty for raiding. Give us our little care bear dungeon to play around and feel like we accomplish something in an hour.
Make friends with a tank on your realm and queue with him, or better yet a healer and a tank!
I understand, but it will not fix the length of Heroics and the not so forgiving dungeon difficulty. In LFD you are expected to find average players, so the content should be average in terms of difficulty.

When the solution is to join a Raiding guild, it's over the top a little bit. I am not a bad player, just average who would like an average dungeon....not en epic one. Maybe i'm wrong.
#24 Dec 20 2010 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think that heroics are the right difficulty, it's just that people aren't ready for them 2 weeks into the game. As people get better gear, and learn the fights on normal, the average player will be better equipped for heroics and it will be easier to run them. Add into that the heroic geared people who will run a heroic or two a day and fill in the last few spots via LFD and the whole situation will gradually get better. It's early days yet.

I wouldn't say that finding a tank or healer friend is the same as joining a raiding guild.

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 1:08pm by Xsarus
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#25 Dec 20 2010 at 1:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm surprisingly not bored at all. I quit for about four months and now that I'm back I'm really enjoying my nice slow pace to 85. No annoying raids to go to, no more dealing with retarded people. I can just hang out and do it all myself.

The only gripe I do have.... You can't buy the 85 pvp gear unless you're 85. So I'm sitting honor capped on my dk at 82 :/
#26 Dec 20 2010 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's nothing wrong with the difficulty level in heroics.
If you're failing it's because of the group messing up and it has nothing to do with gear ot the instance being too hard. A.k.a suck it up and get better.
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