Guild Leveling Nerf Already.Follow

I was taught, many years ago, by an old Sioux sitting cross legged in a tent (really) that if you are part of a group, and everyone in the group has too many 'problems,' then maybe you're evaluating the wrong part of the group.

Er, you don't lose guild exp. Nor are they requiring things like having all of the legendaries for certain guild rewards as they planned.

I don't understand why people have a problem with them changing how guild leveling works. If you're so casual that you can't level your guild (which takes literally NO extra work), maybe single-player games are more your speed, or perhaps a Wii game would be about right.

If your guild never hits level 2, you don't play the game enough for it to matter to you. That's simply a fact.

In my guild, back before the mass exodus to the new guild, you would have been given high fives for that convo, but only if you had talked more trash.

I miss those ********

Will a 2 person guild need ANY of the stuff which comes from rep rewards any sooner than they'll get it?

Azuregos was meant to be a raid boss. Of course, soloing him would take 6 hours.

But where was it written that guilds should ONLY be large?

I've read many o-board posts saying that even guilds who routinely have 10 players online in a given day are having troubles hitting the daily cap.

MANY people have Friends & Family guilds.

All of them are being unfairly punished, and will take months, if not a couple years, to ever see Guild level 20+.



We're not talking about guild reputation here. We're talking about Guild XP.

Let's see, off the top of my head...

1). Fast Track: 5/10% faster leveling across the board.
2). Cast Deposit: 5/10% of looted gold being added to Guild Bank.
3). Bountiful Bags: More Mining/Herbs.

All of these are made for casual players, but yet casual players will take a very long time to see any of these with this change. Before this retarded nerf, a casual guild had a chance at getting it sometime. After, not so much.

Did the math, some 2-person guilds could take 2+ YEARS to get GL25.

At start I really don't want to reply on this since its a discussion about guild leveling. But ehehe curiosity kills the cat sorta speak :3

I do agree with kavekk to a certain degree but I am also curious why you "seem" so biased in meeting or interacting with other people in WOW. I say "seem" because that's the impression I get when reading some of your post in this topic.

As I understand you have a small guild which is fine of course.
but you say as reason you don't want other people in because of your daughter(I have no clue how old she is) and I can understand as a mother you want to protect your girl. Or that you want to prevent people from influencing her in giving them stuff out of the guild bank which I can understand too. But that can easily be fixed with ranks or guild permissions.

you also say that you don't want your daughter to go dungeons with random idiots?
Not everyone is an idiot you know. Yes this community has his Idiots,E-peen strokers, Mouthbreathers,Windowlickers, Elitist and Noobs. But so are pretty much all the other online communities as well.

When I read that it sounds to me that shes pretty limited in only interacting with you and your husband? when playing this game. Forgive me if I am wrong and feel free to correct me.
But why? Are you afraid she's going to be harassed? or going to be taken advantage off? or perhaps she's going to be confronted with the bad side of the online community? Perhaps she's quite young and you just want to keep an eye on her, like I stated before I have no idea how old she is so I am just guessing here. Maybe you just want to play with the 3 of you?

But in that case whats the point in playing a MMORPG. they are build/setup to be played by bigger groups of people and communities to keep them alive. or to meet up people you don't even know and make friends on the way. of cource in case of WoW you can do some stuff on your own but comparing to some other MMO's I played people should glad that WoW is still quite solo friendly.

An alternative if you guys really just enjoy playing together and you don't want to worry about other people did you ever thought or considered getting a console perhaps? (like an Xbox or Wii or even a PS3)they have great games on those :) especially in case of the Wii they have lots of party games so you can team up together and play at the same time.

Ofcourse I still hope you run into some good people who you can befriend and do group stuff with them :)

edit: fixed typo :>






Edited, Dec 14th 2010 9:00am by Malackia

Edited, Dec 14th 2010 9:25am by Malackia

exactly! that's why I am so curious about her age it seems shes really young perhaps even to young to be even playing online in a game like this if I see geo's response that's why I was wondering.

If I would have a daughter or son I wouldn't go without complete supervision either but on the other hand I would not be breathing down there necks either. I most likely just turn on a filter in the router that only allows then to browse certain sites and the Pc will still be placed in the living room.
But it really depends on how wise my child is for his/her age. If i think he or she is old enough to play WoW or any other MMO then I most likely will talk it over with them and set some rules. Then I would let them play as long as it doesn't interfere with there school and grades.

Most likely similar like my own parents did. They were pretty laid back when it came to the internet and playing games online I guess they trusted me to have enough common sense to alarm them if something strange came up.
I always have been a pretty sober kid even from a young age so it really depends on how your child is I guess ;)

American parents specifically? What, you mean dinner conversations worldwide don't go like this?

CHILD: "Can I use the computer tonight? I have to do research for a project."

PARENT: "Look, just because someone posts a picture of a cute kid your own age and says it's him, does not mean he isn't actually a fifty-year-old psychopath sicko. There is, in fact, no foolproof way to verify that anyone is who they say they are. You are therefore to assume that at least one, if not dozens, of fifty-year-old psychopath sickos are watching every single thing you ever do, say, or put online, and protect every shred of personal information accordingly."

CHILD: Um, I was just going to google "The French Revolution."

PARENT: What, you think that just because Google is a big name that they're protecting your privacy? Google is not looking out for anyone but themselves, missy! And google is not a verb!

CHILD: ...

PARENT: Oh fine go. But Dad will be checking on you every three minutes!


Other countries are so weird.

Same here. They were conservative about things that might cause lasting damage, while giving me free rein to learn lessons from minor scrapes and dings. And they didn't censor my reading at all, figuring that if I was old enough to comprehend something that I was old enough to handle wrapping my head around it. And by not demonizing alcohol, they didn't put that perverse glamour on it that it seems to have in so many parts of the country.

Probably the hardest thing was making me understand that this attitude wasn't universal - probably the most important lesson was when to speak and when to keep silent.

Yeah, definitely. Especially about the lessons from scrapes and dings. I've broken my nose six times or something like that. Apparently I still haven't gotten the message that I need to protect my face.

I'm definitely in the camp that censoring your kids is bad. If they understand and think something unacceptable is okay, then you step in and educate them. That way they know about it, and know why it's wrong, rather just that it's wrong.

Sheltering kids doesn't help them, in fact I believe it hurts them in high school and college.

Could be used for that, too.

Yep, I remember those days. My dad's favorite phrase: "stop crying or I'll give you something to really cry about."